Let’s hear your spicy take

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With Supercross over and outdoors about to begin; I’m curious to see if anyone has any hot takes from the season or in general about our sport. 
I’ll go first:

Ryan Dungey would be considered the GOAT if not for Ryan Villopoto. Of course impossible to say for sure I still think it’s a cool school of thought:

If Dungey won every championship that Villopoto did while they raced together, here’s what it would look like:

Actual Dungey Titles:
Supercross: 2010, 2015, 2016, 2017 = 4 titles

Motocross: 2010, 2012, 2015 = 3 titles
Total: 7

Add Villopoto’s Titles (assuming Dungey wins them instead):
Supercross: 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014

Motocross: 2011, 2013
Add: 6 more titles

Hypothetical Total:
Supercross: 8 titles

Motocross: 5 titles
Grand Total: 13 championships

With 13 titles, Dungey would’ve passed McGrath in total championships and only trailed Carmichael—while having way fewer injuries and a more consistent career.

not super spicy more like siracha but I’m curious what vital has to say and it goes without saying I’m a fan of both Ryan’s and was blessed to be a fan of the sport while they were both racing. True greatness. 
 


 

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kiwifan
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I am a fan of all riders who bust their asses on the track, I will always cheer harder for certain teams/riders sure but all of them deserve a medal ! 

As for both Ryan's I have a ton of respect for both ! Both in my mind are GOATs

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5/12/2025 5:08pm

Maybe neither Ryan would have been as great if they weren't racing each other. 

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sumdood
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And if I won every title I'd be the Hurricane Bad Boy Super Goat Man 😁    Haha just fuckin with ya. Thats really what you were thinking about today ? Hypothetical situations ? Fuck dude color me jealous, and I mean that as a compliment.  I need to manage my time better 🤣

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My spicy take? Deegan has roid gut

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Hammaker shows up to Pala mad as hell and rides to a 1- 1 day

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Hot take,


Boom won’t be wrong when breaking a story 

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Hammaker and Davies gained some real fans this year.

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5/12/2025 6:25pm

Put another asterisk next to this years title. 

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mc795
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sumdood wrote:
And if I won every title I'd be the Hurricane Bad Boy Super Goat Man 😁    Haha just fuckin with ya. Thats really what you...

And if I won every title I'd be the Hurricane Bad Boy Super Goat Man 😁    Haha just fuckin with ya. Thats really what you were thinking about today ? Hypothetical situations ? Fuck dude color me jealous, and I mean that as a compliment.  I need to manage my time better 🤣

You can be the Super GOAT in my books once you slot some more time for pondering :D

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When Jett said “can suck it” live on tv he wasn’t fined..why was Deegan?

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Tyler D wrote:

My spicy take? Deegan has roid gut

What does that even mean? Trying to say HGH stomach? Which is really just having a ton of abdominal fat and is usually caused by insulin usage in bodybuilders. If a rider was on test or something you wouldn't be able to tell by their stomach, that's for damn sure.

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Id point to his bloated cheeks. 

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We should just let them take drugs and see how fast they can go. Testosterone, HGH and Meth

 

DROP THE GATE!! 

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Tyler D wrote:

My spicy take? Deegan has roid gut

JazzyJJ wrote:
What does that even mean? Trying to say HGH stomach? Which is really just having a ton of abdominal fat and is usually caused by insulin...

What does that even mean? Trying to say HGH stomach? Which is really just having a ton of abdominal fat and is usually caused by insulin usage in bodybuilders. If a rider was on test or something you wouldn't be able to tell by their stomach, that's for damn sure.

correct, not (just) test. 

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I’ll play just for tonight, Kenny would’ve dominated Eli , marv , ando & coop indoors & out consistently if he didn’t destroy his arm 

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Deegan never wins a 450 supercross main event.

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Silver rims > everything

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Supercross should be eliminated. It only exists because it can be held in metro areas but in today’s form it’s not true to the spirit of dirt bike racing and is to dangerous. Compare serious career altering injuries in SX vs MX. sure mx has some over the years but they are far more common in SX. 

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5/12/2025 8:44pm

Let Webb take the summer off and only race sx. 

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5/12/2025 8:45pm
soggy wrote:
Supercross should be eliminated. It only exists because it can be held in metro areas but in today’s form it’s not true to the spirit of...

Supercross should be eliminated. It only exists because it can be held in metro areas but in today’s form it’s not true to the spirit of dirt bike racing and is to dangerous. Compare serious career altering injuries in SX vs MX. sure mx has some over the years but they are far more common in SX. 

Im with you

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My spicy take, It will be a 4 rider battle in the 450 class. ET3, JL18, CS4 will all go 1-1 and dominate certain rounds but have a few bad motos, while AP7 will be consistently on or just off the podium all summer and with a little luck will be in contention for the title till the end. 

 

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5/12/2025 8:52pm Edited Date/Time 5/12/2025 8:55pm
Tyler D wrote:

My spicy take? Deegan has roid gut

JazzyJJ wrote:
What does that even mean? Trying to say HGH stomach? Which is really just having a ton of abdominal fat and is usually caused by insulin...

What does that even mean? Trying to say HGH stomach? Which is really just having a ton of abdominal fat and is usually caused by insulin usage in bodybuilders. If a rider was on test or something you wouldn't be able to tell by their stomach, that's for damn sure.

Tyler D wrote:

correct, not (just) test. 

HGH just allows for insanely fast recovery. It has long term side effects like enlarged organs but honestly if it was legal and used responsibly (medically) it would help these guys recover so much faster

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Jcoop comes out swinging with a podium at Pala. 

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CASH476
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Silver rims > everything

I'll raise you one. Blue rims look better on a Yamaha than silver or black!

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5/12/2025 10:07pm Edited Date/Time 5/13/2025 8:03am
Mavetism wrote:

Jcoop comes out swinging with a podium at Pala. 

Man....I've been waiting for JCoop to get to the front of the pack.  He was really coming on there late in SX.   Would be great to see him shine outdoors as well this year. 

 

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-Mcgrath ain't shit in comparison to the current 450 class.
7 titles mean nothing 

-Webb is better than Reed ever was.
5 titles mean everything. 

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mc795 wrote:
With Supercross over and outdoors about to begin; I’m curious to see if anyone has any hot takes from the season or in general about our...

With Supercross over and outdoors about to begin; I’m curious to see if anyone has any hot takes from the season or in general about our sport. 
I’ll go first:

Ryan Dungey would be considered the GOAT if not for Ryan Villopoto. Of course impossible to say for sure I still think it’s a cool school of thought:

If Dungey won every championship that Villopoto did while they raced together, here’s what it would look like:

Actual Dungey Titles:
Supercross: 2010, 2015, 2016, 2017 = 4 titles

Motocross: 2010, 2012, 2015 = 3 titles
Total: 7

Add Villopoto’s Titles (assuming Dungey wins them instead):
Supercross: 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014

Motocross: 2011, 2013
Add: 6 more titles

Hypothetical Total:
Supercross: 8 titles

Motocross: 5 titles
Grand Total: 13 championships

With 13 titles, Dungey would’ve passed McGrath in total championships and only trailed Carmichael—while having way fewer injuries and a more consistent career.

not super spicy more like siracha but I’m curious what vital has to say and it goes without saying I’m a fan of both Ryan’s and was blessed to be a fan of the sport while they were both racing. True greatness. 
 


 

Ricky's 15 titles include 3 125/250 titles. So you have to add in the Ryan's 4 250 titles there fore the total would be 17 to 15. If we're counting that is. 

 

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BS12
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5/12/2025 11:32pm

Jett 1-1 at Pala?

Eli 1-1 at Pala?

Chase 1-1 at Pala?

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5/12/2025 11:42pm

Had Jeremy moved to the premier class 2 seasons earlier, (1991) he would’ve still won his first title in 1993. 
 

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