Vialle forced to 450 for ‘26 SX

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I can’t believe the nonsense JuJu pulled and RJ being a jackass like always. But now Vialle will be on a 450 next year! Guess KTM will field 3 450s?

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Do they have 3 signed riders???

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So no Tomac to KTM then?

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I have Vialle for my RM wildcard in January 2026 

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alphado wrote:

So no Tomac to KTM then?

I believe Tomac will still go there. That’s why I said 3, 450 riders. Tomac (possibly), AP, and now Vialle. 

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dre3101 wrote:

Do they have 3 signed riders???

Chase/Eli… one of those 2 will be there then AP and now Vialle can’t race 250 SX anymore. 

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I think it may be a blessing in disguise. No great 450 rider has ever been a 250 lifer. I have no doubt he’ll already be ahead of Prado in SX next year. 

In and out! On to the next thing to keep progressing!

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Already confirmed they are running a three man team in the 450 and only running Juju on the 250. 

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alphado wrote:

So no Tomac to KTM then?

No probably the nursing home.

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if the Mookie to Triumph rumors are true, can they just throw him over to Husky to fill that spot?

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100% chance that no one gives him a chance too..lol. Will be fun to watch what happens. 4X champ. 

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TKLEVEN wrote:

if the Mookie to Triumph rumors are true, can they just throw him over to Husky to fill that spot?

RJ will be the only 450 sx rider next year. Rumors are KTM group only running 2 brands next year so my guess is GasGas gets cut!

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aeffertz wrote:
I think it may be a blessing in disguise. No great 450 rider has ever been a 250 lifer. I have no doubt he’ll already be...

I think it may be a blessing in disguise. No great 450 rider has ever been a 250 lifer. I have no doubt he’ll already be ahead of Prado in SX next year. 

In and out! On to the next thing to keep progressing!

I’d be willing to bet Prado bears Vialle next year. Prado isn’t that good IMO. He lucked into the Championship with all the mud races last year. And only one win this year. 

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aeffertz wrote:
I think it may be a blessing in disguise. No great 450 rider has ever been a 250 lifer. I have no doubt he’ll already be...

I think it may be a blessing in disguise. No great 450 rider has ever been a 250 lifer. I have no doubt he’ll already be ahead of Prado in SX next year. 

In and out! On to the next thing to keep progressing!

Emmert243 wrote:
I’d be willing to bet Prado bears Vialle next year. Prado isn’t that good IMO. He lucked into the Championship with all the mud races last...

I’d be willing to bet Prado bears Vialle next year. Prado isn’t that good IMO. He lucked into the Championship with all the mud races last year. And only one win this year. 

You haven't seen a single race if you are serious about Prado "lucking" into his titles lmao. He has been the fastest guy for the past two years. Even won with a DNF last year, probably ragebait.

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aeffertz wrote:
I think it may be a blessing in disguise. No great 450 rider has ever been a 250 lifer. I have no doubt he’ll already be...

I think it may be a blessing in disguise. No great 450 rider has ever been a 250 lifer. I have no doubt he’ll already be ahead of Prado in SX next year. 

In and out! On to the next thing to keep progressing!

Emmert243 wrote:
I’d be willing to bet Prado bears Vialle next year. Prado isn’t that good IMO. He lucked into the Championship with all the mud races last...

I’d be willing to bet Prado bears Vialle next year. Prado isn’t that good IMO. He lucked into the Championship with all the mud races last year. And only one win this year. 

Mavetism wrote:
You haven't seen a single race if you are serious about Prado "lucking" into his titles lmao. He has been the fastest guy for the past...

You haven't seen a single race if you are serious about Prado "lucking" into his titles lmao. He has been the fastest guy for the past two years. Even won with a DNF last year, probably ragebait.

I believe he's talking about Vialle lucking into his titles, not Prado

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Emmert243 wrote:
I’d be willing to bet Prado bears Vialle next year. Prado isn’t that good IMO. He lucked into the Championship with all the mud races last...

I’d be willing to bet Prado bears Vialle next year. Prado isn’t that good IMO. He lucked into the Championship with all the mud races last year. And only one win this year. 

Mavetism wrote:
You haven't seen a single race if you are serious about Prado "lucking" into his titles lmao. He has been the fastest guy for the past...

You haven't seen a single race if you are serious about Prado "lucking" into his titles lmao. He has been the fastest guy for the past two years. Even won with a DNF last year, probably ragebait.

Juck wrote:

I believe he's talking about Vialle lucking into his titles, not Prado

Oh yeah, makes sense with the "only one win this year" lol. But even then, he beat Deegan more than Deegan beat Vialle last year. Imo Vialle was better last year I think, he really was off pace this season specially in the beginning ot the season. Who knows how he'll be on the 450, we'll find out.

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aeffertz wrote:
I think it may be a blessing in disguise. No great 450 rider has ever been a 250 lifer. I have no doubt he’ll already be...

I think it may be a blessing in disguise. No great 450 rider has ever been a 250 lifer. I have no doubt he’ll already be ahead of Prado in SX next year. 

In and out! On to the next thing to keep progressing!

Emmert243 wrote:
I’d be willing to bet Prado bears Vialle next year. Prado isn’t that good IMO. He lucked into the Championship with all the mud races last...

I’d be willing to bet Prado bears Vialle next year. Prado isn’t that good IMO. He lucked into the Championship with all the mud races last year. And only one win this year. 

My bad I meant Vialle lucked into his titles. Had a few beers tonight haha 

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aeffertz wrote:
I think it may be a blessing in disguise. No great 450 rider has ever been a 250 lifer. I have no doubt he’ll already be...

I think it may be a blessing in disguise. No great 450 rider has ever been a 250 lifer. I have no doubt he’ll already be ahead of Prado in SX next year. 

In and out! On to the next thing to keep progressing!

Emmert243 wrote:
I’d be willing to bet Prado bears Vialle next year. Prado isn’t that good IMO. He lucked into the Championship with all the mud races last...

I’d be willing to bet Prado bears Vialle next year. Prado isn’t that good IMO. He lucked into the Championship with all the mud races last year. And only one win this year. 

Mavetism wrote:
You haven't seen a single race if you are serious about Prado "lucking" into his titles lmao. He has been the fastest guy for the past...

You haven't seen a single race if you are serious about Prado "lucking" into his titles lmao. He has been the fastest guy for the past two years. Even won with a DNF last year, probably ragebait.

I think he meant to type Prado beats* Vialle and that Vialle lucked into his SX championship last year because of the soft/rutty tracks and only has one win this year. 
 

I still disagree with him, though. You don’t just luck into back-to-back championships. Vialle has 2 SX championships now, Prado has 6 SX entries. 

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Emmert243 wrote:
I’d be willing to bet Prado bears Vialle next year. Prado isn’t that good IMO. He lucked into the Championship with all the mud races last...

I’d be willing to bet Prado bears Vialle next year. Prado isn’t that good IMO. He lucked into the Championship with all the mud races last year. And only one win this year. 

Mavetism wrote:
You haven't seen a single race if you are serious about Prado "lucking" into his titles lmao. He has been the fastest guy for the past...

You haven't seen a single race if you are serious about Prado "lucking" into his titles lmao. He has been the fastest guy for the past two years. Even won with a DNF last year, probably ragebait.

aeffertz wrote:
I think he meant to type Prado beats* Vialle and that Vialle lucked into his SX championship last year because of the soft/rutty tracks and only...

I think he meant to type Prado beats* Vialle and that Vialle lucked into his SX championship last year because of the soft/rutty tracks and only has one win this year. 
 

I still disagree with him, though. You don’t just luck into back-to-back championships. Vialle has 2 SX championships now, Prado has 6 SX entries. 

haha yeah, read two comments above!

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Emmert243 wrote:
I’d be willing to bet Prado bears Vialle next year. Prado isn’t that good IMO. He lucked into the Championship with all the mud races last...

I’d be willing to bet Prado bears Vialle next year. Prado isn’t that good IMO. He lucked into the Championship with all the mud races last year. And only one win this year. 

Mavetism wrote:
You haven't seen a single race if you are serious about Prado "lucking" into his titles lmao. He has been the fastest guy for the past...

You haven't seen a single race if you are serious about Prado "lucking" into his titles lmao. He has been the fastest guy for the past two years. Even won with a DNF last year, probably ragebait.

aeffertz wrote:
I think he meant to type Prado beats* Vialle and that Vialle lucked into his SX championship last year because of the soft/rutty tracks and only...

I think he meant to type Prado beats* Vialle and that Vialle lucked into his SX championship last year because of the soft/rutty tracks and only has one win this year. 
 

I still disagree with him, though. You don’t just luck into back-to-back championships. Vialle has 2 SX championships now, Prado has 6 SX entries. 

This is exactly what I meant hahaha had too many beers tonight to celebrate Coops Ship! I mean I could be wrong and Vialle may beat Prado next year but we’ll see! Prado has to make it through the entire year! 

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Vialle is totally unprepared for 450sx. His timing is spotty and he sucks in the whoops. On a 450 that will get him hurt, fast. 

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Have seen a few comments saying Vialle will not be ready for 450 SX, probably the same people that said he wouldn’t be ready for 250 SX.

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They will have 3 450 and 1 250 

5/10/2025 7:43pm

Already confirmed they are running a three man team in the 450 and only running Juju on the 250. 

Who confirmed?

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Mavetism wrote:
You haven't seen a single race if you are serious about Prado "lucking" into his titles lmao. He has been the fastest guy for the past...

You haven't seen a single race if you are serious about Prado "lucking" into his titles lmao. He has been the fastest guy for the past two years. Even won with a DNF last year, probably ragebait.

Juck wrote:

I believe he's talking about Vialle lucking into his titles, not Prado

Mavetism wrote:
Oh yeah, makes sense with the "only one win this year" lol. But even then, he beat Deegan more than Deegan beat Vialle last year. Imo...

Oh yeah, makes sense with the "only one win this year" lol. But even then, he beat Deegan more than Deegan beat Vialle last year. Imo Vialle was better last year I think, he really was off pace this season specially in the beginning ot the season. Who knows how he'll be on the 450, we'll find out.

imo, I think Vialle's style would translate to 450's better than he performs on the 250's, but yeah, we'll see.

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Vialle is totally unprepared for 450sx. His timing is spotty and he sucks in the whoops. On a 450 that will get him hurt, fast. 

I was thinking the same thing earlier in the year but I think he’s shown that:

1: He doesn’t ride over his head

2: Is smart/savvy 

I’m more worried about RJ’s wellbeing on a 450 than Tom’s to be honest. Then you have someone like Jordan Smith who’s going on his 50th year in the 250 class chasing a title and still crashes himself out every year. People said Chase lucked into his 250 titles and wasn’t ready to move up either, just saying!

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Emmert243 wrote:

My bad I meant Vialle lucked into his titles. Had a few beers tonight haha 

Didn't Sexton kinda luck his way into his 250 titles? Now he's fast as hell so anything can happen for Tom in 450. 

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Tom will be a 12-15th place rider next year.

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Juck wrote:

I believe he's talking about Vialle lucking into his titles, not Prado

Mavetism wrote:
Oh yeah, makes sense with the "only one win this year" lol. But even then, he beat Deegan more than Deegan beat Vialle last year. Imo...

Oh yeah, makes sense with the "only one win this year" lol. But even then, he beat Deegan more than Deegan beat Vialle last year. Imo Vialle was better last year I think, he really was off pace this season specially in the beginning ot the season. Who knows how he'll be on the 450, we'll find out.

imo, I think Vialle's style would translate to 450's better than he performs on the 250's, but yeah, we'll see.

It's so weird to me people already write him off before we even got a chance to see him on the big bike. He is so smooth on the bike I also think he will translate just fine. I don't think he will set the world on fire in his first year, but dude is consistent and doesn't have a lot of sketchy moments in SX. But people did the same with Jcoop, also said he would be non factor in the 450 class and look how he developed over the last two years.

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Vialle is totally unprepared for 450sx. His timing is spotty and he sucks in the whoops. On a 450 that will get him hurt, fast. 

J coop also sucks in the whoops but he’s been doing fine. The whooos also get broke down a lot more by the 450 main & are more jumpable.  He might be safer jumping the whoops j coop style than blitzing. Maybe. Maybe not.  

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Emmert243 wrote:

My bad I meant Vialle lucked into his titles. Had a few beers tonight haha 

Hcallz5 wrote:

Didn't Sexton kinda luck his way into his 250 titles? Now he's fast as hell so anything can happen for Tom in 450. 

Difference is Sexton always had speed and perfect technique. Tom has neither in SX

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