Daniel Blair: The Whole Truth (updated with YouTube link)

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^Yes. Also, that public interaction occurred with a group of fans and when all actors knew the camera's were rolling.

 Its reasonable to assume private interaction was not the same or better.

 

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GrapeApe wrote:
You think DB was dishonest in his "The Whole Truth" video? I don't.

You think DB was dishonest in his "The Whole Truth" video? I don't.

Tyler D wrote:
It depends on how much influence Ricky has behind the scenes. We can only speculate. At the very least he didn't go out of his way...

It depends on how much influence Ricky has behind the scenes. We can only speculate. At the very least he didn't go out of his way to address the personality conflicts with Ricky or the obvious character flaws. Things were "repairable", but why would he want to do that when OTOH he got violently mad at a supervisor for merely clinically suggesting he couldn't handle discussing death. Doesn't reconcile. If you think they're tight still and they're inviting each other to their podcasts, I don't know what to tell you. 

GrapeApe wrote:
You may have me confused for someone else, I never said or implied they're tight. I just said the reasons behind DB leaving NBC and RC's...

You may have me confused for someone else, I never said or implied they're tight. I just said the reasons behind DB leaving NBC and RC's performance in the booth are two different conversations. This thread was about the former, but everyone seems focused on the latter. DB said his dream job was to sit in the chair next to RC, mistakes, personality, and all. When it was made clear by NBC that was not going to happen, he left.

The producers created a situation where DB was expected to stick a rag in his air box so as not to outrun RC. When it became clear that RC was not in support of being paired with DB, and that RC wasn't going anywhere, DB cut his losses and moved on. DB is smart but not smart enough to know how to dumb it down. Weege on the other hand is smart enough to know when and how to play dumb. 

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3/19/2025 11:11am
Spoonguy wrote:
You know this defense of RC is getting ridiculous. Ringo do you really go to a restaurant where your waitress fucks up every order? Do you...

You know this defense of RC is getting ridiculous. Ringo do you really go to a restaurant where your waitress fucks up every order? Do you really know Doctors who malpractice daily? Or does the local plumber mess up every repair he does? If mistakes amongst career people is so common and acceptable to you, I am never flying the airline that you use. Or use your pharmacy. Everyone knows somebody they can rely on in almost every service industry who is solid and dependable as hell. And sure everyone makes mistakes but most generally it is "oh no I made a mistake", not "here we go again". Mistakes are the odd occurence if you are proficient at what you do, not done every time you work. Obviously.

EVH4Ever wrote:
Spoonguy, I like you dude, and I mean that in all sincerity. But comparing Carmichael and his job as a TV personality to a regular job is...

Spoonguy,

 I like you dude, and I mean that in all sincerity. But comparing Carmichael and his job as a TV personality to a regular job is not fair nor accurate. One is entertainment and the other is not.  They are both jobs for certain, but a lot more is forgiven due to the entertainment value. I just don’t understand all the hatred and vitriol towards the GOAT. Does he mess up? Absolutely! Have Bailey and Eckman and many others messed up as well? Hell yes!! They are there to report and entertain us. Every personality is different. Every style is different. This is not a one-size-fits-all approach. Everyone has their quirks, their idiosyncrasies, etc. like many others have said before, I’m just happy to be able to watch a race. I couldn’t give two shits as to what the people are actually saying as far as on air personalities. Personally, I think he does a really good  even with all of his hiccups and missteps. They ALL have them.

Spoonguy wrote:
We have to disagree friend. Constant digs at this sport is that we are never taken seriously, and one of our major spokes people is very...

We have to disagree friend. Constant digs at this sport is that we are never taken seriously, and one of our major spokes people is very bad at public speaking. I have no hate for RC. But I can see how he is bad for the image of our sport where he performs right now, as good as he was for it in his previous capacity. Our sport is supported by multi-billion dollar international corporations, performing to millions of people a year in mult-million dollar stadiums, around the world now, with the athletes literally risking their lives. We can do better with the presentation, it is not an area where "aw shucks, good enough" is OK.

The fact he is in a public position elevates the need for him to be at a high level. If an employee received poor reviews continually from their "customers", he would have the opportunity to get better and if not would be gone or reassigned. Small mistakes in a Live show are understandable, but he is constantly terrible, offers little to no insight, and his analogies are way off. 

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3/21/2025 10:14am

And as far as the entertainment aspect of it jugglers do not drop the balls, opera soloists perform flawlessly, actors say the correct lines. I watched MotoGP the other night, SX/MX deserves that kind of professional broadcast.

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3/21/2025 11:14am
Spoonguy wrote:
And as far as the entertainment aspect of it jugglers do not drop the balls, opera soloists perform flawlessly, actors say the correct lines. I watched...

And as far as the entertainment aspect of it jugglers do not drop the balls, opera soloists perform flawlessly, actors say the correct lines. I watched MotoGP the other night, SX/MX deserves that kind of professional broadcast.

I remember watching MXON last year and thinking how is the broadcast this much better than the ama one? They had more cameras on the ground and not 5 people talking on the broadcast and no drone, even though that would have been cool.

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3/21/2025 12:46pm

There's one cool thing about the Blairgate and especially this topic: it got me to listen to old CDs from a 90's band I liked and had almost totally forgotten: Enuff Z'nuff.

Could just as well have been Limahl's "Never ending story"...

😄

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3/21/2025 12:52pm
RACING wrote:
There's one cool thing about the Blairgate and especially this topic: it got me to listen to old CDs from a 90's band I liked and...

There's one cool thing about the Blairgate and especially this topic: it got me to listen to old CDs from a 90's band I liked and had almost totally forgotten: Enuff Z'nuff.

Could just as well have been Limahl's "Never ending story"...

😄

Ahh, the hair band that arrived on the scene at the beginning of the grunge era. Somewhere i have that tape with Fly High Michelle on it. Now if I just had a cassette recorder that worked. How is it that not using something for a decade causes it to not work?

 

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3/21/2025 1:05pm

Just like this thread, they were there for a loooooong time and nothing happened.

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Loved that one -among many others.

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Free Daniel Blair?

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Spoonguy wrote:
And as far as the entertainment aspect of it jugglers do not drop the balls, opera soloists perform flawlessly, actors say the correct lines. I watched...

And as far as the entertainment aspect of it jugglers do not drop the balls, opera soloists perform flawlessly, actors say the correct lines. I watched MotoGP the other night, SX/MX deserves that kind of professional broadcast.

I remember watching MXON last year and thinking how is the broadcast this much better than the ama one? They had more cameras on the ground...

I remember watching MXON last year and thinking how is the broadcast this much better than the ama one? They had more cameras on the ground and not 5 people talking on the broadcast and no drone, even though that would have been cool.

They for sure have some good coverage.

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alphado wrote:

Free Daniel Blair?

Like no pay wall...???  

NAH

D's gotta eat!

4/23/2025 9:40am

Posting this here since it's broadcast related vs. making ANOTHER broadcast post.

After watching the presser this past Saturday, YouTube automatically started to play the 250/450 mains from Vegas 2017.  This is the first time that I've watched an "old" race vs. a more recent one.  It was kind of eye-opening.

First off, RC was not bad as a trackside reporter.  He actually provided some good insight between the races.  His delivery during the race was a step above Will's.  I think it was because he didn't necessarily have to think on his feet.

In retrospect, Ralph and Fro were much better in the booth than what we get now.  The broadcast has taken multiple steps back between Leigh, RC, etc.

The production direction at Fox was a lot cleaner.  Less use of garbage split screens.  On-screen graphics for timing and scoring were arguably more legible.  Overall the Fox product appeared more polished.

Where the NBC broadcast shines, however, are the camera angles.  Some of them are still pretty bad, but more recent broadcasts seem to be shooting from a higher angle, both with cameras and the drone.  The older broadcast had low angle cameras (on the back of a Mule, on the concourse, etc.) which made it harder to see how riders take different rhythms and such.

Also, Todd Harris was calling the SailGP race last weekend.  My fiancée who never followed SX until a few years ago was blown away when I told her that he used to call the races.  This is kind of beating a dead horse, but the guy is miles better than Diffey or pretty much any other mainstream announcer we've had in recent years.

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4/23/2025 10:20am
Posting this here since it's broadcast related vs. making ANOTHER broadcast post.After watching the presser this past Saturday, YouTube automatically started to play the 250/450 mains...

Posting this here since it's broadcast related vs. making ANOTHER broadcast post.

After watching the presser this past Saturday, YouTube automatically started to play the 250/450 mains from Vegas 2017.  This is the first time that I've watched an "old" race vs. a more recent one.  It was kind of eye-opening.

First off, RC was not bad as a trackside reporter.  He actually provided some good insight between the races.  His delivery during the race was a step above Will's.  I think it was because he didn't necessarily have to think on his feet.

In retrospect, Ralph and Fro were much better in the booth than what we get now.  The broadcast has taken multiple steps back between Leigh, RC, etc.

The production direction at Fox was a lot cleaner.  Less use of garbage split screens.  On-screen graphics for timing and scoring were arguably more legible.  Overall the Fox product appeared more polished.

Where the NBC broadcast shines, however, are the camera angles.  Some of them are still pretty bad, but more recent broadcasts seem to be shooting from a higher angle, both with cameras and the drone.  The older broadcast had low angle cameras (on the back of a Mule, on the concourse, etc.) which made it harder to see how riders take different rhythms and such.

Also, Todd Harris was calling the SailGP race last weekend.  My fiancée who never followed SX until a few years ago was blown away when I told her that he used to call the races.  This is kind of beating a dead horse, but the guy is miles better than Diffey or pretty much any other mainstream announcer we've had in recent years.

I've been watching a bunch of Bar To Bar's in the last few weeks. As a younger person that wasn't old enough to understand Art and DB, holy shit were they awesome. Straight up play by play and straight up analysis that didn't have to relate to a "bigger story" or the championship hunt. It's the polar opposite of what we have now. There are pro's and con's to both, but it's definitely easier to listen to those older videos and just enjoy the racing. I acknowledge bar to bar show's the highlights so take my comments with a grain of salt. 

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4/24/2025 7:22am Edited Date/Time 4/24/2025 7:23am
I've been watching a bunch of Bar To Bar's in the last few weeks. As a younger person that wasn't old enough to understand Art and...

I've been watching a bunch of Bar To Bar's in the last few weeks. As a younger person that wasn't old enough to understand Art and DB, holy shit were they awesome. Straight up play by play and straight up analysis that didn't have to relate to a "bigger story" or the championship hunt. It's the polar opposite of what we have now. There are pro's and con's to both, but it's definitely easier to listen to those older videos and just enjoy the racing. I acknowledge bar to bar show's the highlights so take my comments with a grain of salt. 

You're right though.  Part of what made the Ralph and Fro broadcast "good" was that Ralph was actually calling the race.  Right now we have the Diff and RC social hour where they MAYBE talk about what's on track and RC makes predications that occasionally pan out.

The broadcast as it stands is almost like some sort of YouTube reaction video where a few guys comment on the race.  Except this is on network television.  There's no real excitement in anyone's voice beyond OHHHHH.

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4/24/2025 7:57am

There is a very well-known quote in marketing and advertising....

"What you have to say is enormously more important than how you say it"

RC is incredibly bad at how he says things, and during the broadcast he doesn't have anything valuable he's even TRYING to say. It's that simple. 

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4/24/2025 8:02am
Posting this here since it's broadcast related vs. making ANOTHER broadcast post.After watching the presser this past Saturday, YouTube automatically started to play the 250/450 mains...

Posting this here since it's broadcast related vs. making ANOTHER broadcast post.

After watching the presser this past Saturday, YouTube automatically started to play the 250/450 mains from Vegas 2017.  This is the first time that I've watched an "old" race vs. a more recent one.  It was kind of eye-opening.

First off, RC was not bad as a trackside reporter.  He actually provided some good insight between the races.  His delivery during the race was a step above Will's.  I think it was because he didn't necessarily have to think on his feet.

In retrospect, Ralph and Fro were much better in the booth than what we get now.  The broadcast has taken multiple steps back between Leigh, RC, etc.

The production direction at Fox was a lot cleaner.  Less use of garbage split screens.  On-screen graphics for timing and scoring were arguably more legible.  Overall the Fox product appeared more polished.

Where the NBC broadcast shines, however, are the camera angles.  Some of them are still pretty bad, but more recent broadcasts seem to be shooting from a higher angle, both with cameras and the drone.  The older broadcast had low angle cameras (on the back of a Mule, on the concourse, etc.) which made it harder to see how riders take different rhythms and such.

Also, Todd Harris was calling the SailGP race last weekend.  My fiancée who never followed SX until a few years ago was blown away when I told her that he used to call the races.  This is kind of beating a dead horse, but the guy is miles better than Diffey or pretty much any other mainstream announcer we've had in recent years.

The production team was the same both on FOX and NBC. Bondo has been with the series since 2009. 

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4/24/2025 10:04am
I've been watching a bunch of Bar To Bar's in the last few weeks. As a younger person that wasn't old enough to understand Art and...

I've been watching a bunch of Bar To Bar's in the last few weeks. As a younger person that wasn't old enough to understand Art and DB, holy shit were they awesome. Straight up play by play and straight up analysis that didn't have to relate to a "bigger story" or the championship hunt. It's the polar opposite of what we have now. There are pro's and con's to both, but it's definitely easier to listen to those older videos and just enjoy the racing. I acknowledge bar to bar show's the highlights so take my comments with a grain of salt. 

You're right though.  Part of what made the Ralph and Fro broadcast "good" was that Ralph was actually calling the race.  Right now we have the...

You're right though.  Part of what made the Ralph and Fro broadcast "good" was that Ralph was actually calling the race.  Right now we have the Diff and RC social hour where they MAYBE talk about what's on track and RC makes predications that occasionally pan out.

The broadcast as it stands is almost like some sort of YouTube reaction video where a few guys comment on the race.  Except this is on network television.  There's no real excitement in anyone's voice beyond OHHHHH.

It would be better for both LD and RC if the show was pre-recorded and played back days later like it used to be. Then they could have retakes, edits, etc. On second thought they would probably screw that up too.🤣

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I've been watching a bunch of Bar To Bar's in the last few weeks. As a younger person that wasn't old enough to understand Art and...

I've been watching a bunch of Bar To Bar's in the last few weeks. As a younger person that wasn't old enough to understand Art and DB, holy shit were they awesome. Straight up play by play and straight up analysis that didn't have to relate to a "bigger story" or the championship hunt. It's the polar opposite of what we have now. There are pro's and con's to both, but it's definitely easier to listen to those older videos and just enjoy the racing. I acknowledge bar to bar show's the highlights so take my comments with a grain of salt. 

You're right though.  Part of what made the Ralph and Fro broadcast "good" was that Ralph was actually calling the race.  Right now we have the...

You're right though.  Part of what made the Ralph and Fro broadcast "good" was that Ralph was actually calling the race.  Right now we have the Diff and RC social hour where they MAYBE talk about what's on track and RC makes predications that occasionally pan out.

The broadcast as it stands is almost like some sort of YouTube reaction video where a few guys comment on the race.  Except this is on network television.  There's no real excitement in anyone's voice beyond OHHHHH.

jasonv43 wrote:
It would be better for both LD and RC if the show was pre-recorded and played back days later like it used to be. Then they...

It would be better for both LD and RC if the show was pre-recorded and played back days later like it used to be. Then they could have retakes, edits, etc. On second thought they would probably screw that up too.🤣

Can you imagine how corny and forced rc would be if he got to plan it out and redo it and act surprised at what he’s seeing. Good god, he’s already faker than the kardashians I can’t even imagine that lol.

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4/24/2025 10:29am

Where's the Blair vs Mathess podcast for this week?

Has Daniel already quit that job too or with him being on The Monday show did Pulpmx not want to over load us with too much DB?

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4/25/2025 8:25am

The production team was the same both on FOX and NBC. Bondo has been with the series since 2009. 

Yes, and the camera work still sucks, even though they have better angles.  The story-driven narratives are obviously something that NBC is pushing, just like they do with Olympic coverage.

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