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It doesn't look great in MXGP. Seewer has also made som comments about it. Be interesting to see how Cairoli does this weekend on harder track.
If you compare it to Triumph who nailed it first time around, I think they have quiet a bit of testing left on the Ducati. Who knows if that will lead to frame or linkage or other things to change considerably.
Wouldn't buy it before magazines have tested it properly.
Could you direct us to Seewer's comments, aees ?
It would be interesting to see what he's saying.
Both he and Mattia did pretty well at Argentina, and, reasonable elsewhere.
Jeremy got a Holeshot in Sardinia, , but, fell back, so, it would be interesting to see / hear what difficulties he is facing.
Lupino won the Italian Championship last year, AC did pretty well on it, Lupino is doing OK on the 250 so far.
It's a Big Ask to go up against very developed / familiar bikes, with some of the very best MX riders in the world, so, I think Ducati are doing pretty well - it's a bummer that Guada got hurt - I feel his being in a Team with AC in among it, and, it being Italian, could be a great thing for him to progress.
Triumph - well, I think last weekend was their first podium on the 250, in MX2 - good on them. But, I find it strange that they haven't put an 'official' Team effort into the 450s this year.
I thought Ducati and Triumph are doing pretty well on the pro level considering they are new. Look at how good Triumph is even doing in off road style events.
Lewis mentioned it on the MXGP podcast if it was after Argentina, or second one. Can't remember.
In Italy nationals I think it's to big of gap to the other riders to judge the bike.
Triumph could have won the race with Camden on Saturday in MX2. He was catching dewolf and overall they have been performing very well. Went 2-3 on the day and caught up from 9th to 2nd in first race.
Harrup did great last year, also running up front.
Seewer 15th, and 9th after a holeshot, that's bike, unless he was sick or injured. He has never performed that bad with those good starts. Lot of 10, 14, 18 on first races and he had never been that far off.
I think some is natural he lose. Testing a new bike means not as many hours going full speed when not racing but this much isn't good. Herlings went 7th after being off 6m and back on bike like 6h. If it was last year on Kawi seewer would have beaten Herlings at least.
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I would like to know how it handles. It already proved to be a rocket ship (a lot of holeshots in the MXGP), but having a big cylinder head, with weight so high in the bike might not be what you are looking for in a motocross bike.
2 top4 in 4 rounds sounds pretty good to me for a brand whose last MXer was from 1971.
It looks good, power seems very impressive, Mattia G is doing at least as well as he did on Austrian stuff.
Seewer is a head scratcher, but he hasn't seemed happy for a few years.
Sounds like the media intro in Italy is in May? Nobody has ridden the bike yet outside of the pros right?
They can run aggressive cam profiles and get strong low-mid. The dyno says 70% of peak tq at like 4k and strong flat wide power range.
I got the call yesterday from my local dealer that they are taking deposits. I was first in line.
Desmo valvetrain has almost no advantage these days. The mx bikes already rev to 14k, how much higher do you want to rev? Lol. I think most riders (pros included) would like power lower in the revs. But it should be a bitchin bike. And be prepared to purchase new valve shims. Now you have to shim opening and closing rocker arms.
Whatever Ducati has going on they dominate motogp 🤷♂️
And superbikes.
Bike is such a turd they've needed as many as 6 rounds to put it on the MXGP podium.
Presumably still on a production engine.
Do some research next time. Yes it revs more but it also makes more torque.
Desmo450
Torque: 39.5 lb-ft (53.5 Nm) at 7,500 rpm
Horsepower: 63.5 hp at 9,400 rpm.
YZ450
Torque: 32.7 lb-ft at 7,400 rpm.
Horsepower: 53.1 hp at 9,700 rpm
Assuming Ducati figures were taken at the crankshaft and Yam specs were measured at the wheel, taking into account 10% loss, Desmo 450 torque would be higher than YZ450 max torque from 6 000 to 9 500 rpm.
I would also expect Desmo torque to be higher than YZ at any given rpm, can't wait to see a proper comparison on same Dyno to check this up, maybe in a couple of months.
Lol buddy I did the research when I attended Ducati's technical program and attained a level 3 certification. You're quoting Ducati's estimated crank hp lol
I guess once they’re dynod back to back you’ll be shown to either be a condescending %#%#, or wrong and a condescending %#%#?
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