Update from Wasserman - Lucas Mirtl Case

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3/21/2025 3:15pm

Cooksey to the red courtesy phone, please 

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3/21/2025 3:17pm

Well, there's the full Wasserman story as of 3/21/2025 🤣

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3/21/2025 3:20pm

Anyone willing to break down the legalese gibberish to the bottom line for us swill drinkin' numbskulz?

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3/21/2025 3:22pm

This statement is slightly more professional than those put out by Mirtl…hard decision for which one I would want representing me…

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3/21/2025 3:23pm Edited Date/Time 3/21/2025 3:23pm

Anyone willing to break down the legalese gibberish to the bottom line for us swill drinkin' numbskulz?

Mirtl is fugged…and Cooksey is full of 💩 as usual 

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3/21/2025 3:26pm

Anyone willing to break down the legalese gibberish to the bottom line for us swill drinkin' numbskulz?

yak651 wrote:

Mirtl is fugged…and Cooksey is full of 💩 as usual 

And the couple legit lawyers in the other thread were correct. Weird, huh? Lol

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3/21/2025 3:29pm

Really wonder how going forward the Coenens, Shimoda, Vialle, and I believe Villopoto will respond following this announcement. I’m pretty surprised they’ve stayed with Mirtl thus far and I’m wondering what the reason for that is. I might be wrong on Villopoto but does anyone know if he’s still represented by Mirtl?

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3/21/2025 3:31pm

this is the most amateur hour thing i've witnessed in a good while. these "big players" are apparently managed by 8th graders on social media. 

And still, our "media" has nil to say on one of the bigger stories in a good while.....

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Really wonder how going forward the Coenens, Shimoda, Vialle, and I believe Villopoto will respond following this announcement. I’m pretty surprised they’ve stayed with Mirtl thus...

Really wonder how going forward the Coenens, Shimoda, Vialle, and I believe Villopoto will respond following this announcement. I’m pretty surprised they’ve stayed with Mirtl thus far and I’m wondering what the reason for that is. I might be wrong on Villopoto but does anyone know if he’s still represented by Mirtl?

Anyone sticking by that guy after the “statements” he has put out during this debacle deserve what they get

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3/21/2025 3:35pm
Really wonder how going forward the Coenens, Shimoda, Vialle, and I believe Villopoto will respond following this announcement. I’m pretty surprised they’ve stayed with Mirtl thus...

Really wonder how going forward the Coenens, Shimoda, Vialle, and I believe Villopoto will respond following this announcement. I’m pretty surprised they’ve stayed with Mirtl thus far and I’m wondering what the reason for that is. I might be wrong on Villopoto but does anyone know if he’s still represented by Mirtl?

yak651 wrote:

Anyone sticking by that guy after the “statements” he has put out during this debacle deserve what they get

Agreed. , if anyone representing me was putting out social media posts like  mertz has I’d me finding new representation

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3/21/2025 3:38pm
this is the most amateur hour thing i've witnessed in a good while. these "big players" are apparently managed by 8th graders on social media. And still...

this is the most amateur hour thing i've witnessed in a good while. these "big players" are apparently managed by 8th graders on social media. 

And still, our "media" has nil to say on one of the bigger stories in a good while.....

How is that release amateur??

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3/21/2025 3:39pm
TeamGreen wrote:

Well, there's the full Wasserman story as of 3/21/2025 🤣

Things are obviously waaaaaaay better.

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3/21/2025 3:43pm

In a nutshell the lawsuit in Federal court was withdrawn but can be refiled since it was without prejudice. The TRO from wasserman means Mirtl has a stay away order from employees of the firm etc and the identical filing in state court means Mirtl is going to be Held financially accountable , then comes the federal charges soon for wire fraud etc. Wasserman and the Lawrence’s are going all in on accountability financially and criminally. 

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3/21/2025 3:58pm

listen my friend knows a guy who is part Australian and he says it's fine. 

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3/21/2025 3:58pm

It would appear Mirtl is in serious trouble.  Since this is a civil case, all they can do is try and get as much money back as possible, am I correct?  And if Mirtl "has no money" (an assumption on my part) and can't pay back what is owed, he will likely file for bankruptcy. I don't think they can have him thrown in jail in lieu of payment but I have no experience in any of these matters so I could be way wrong.

Another question comes to mind.  If I am Jett and Hunter why would I be willing to allow Mirtl access to the kind of money he has allegedly stolen?  I have no idea what the working relationship between agents and riders is work so maybe this is common practice?  I would never allow someone access to that amount of my money that I was not related to and even then, probably not.  I'm not saying the Lawrence's are at fault by any means, it's just something I don't think I would ever do.

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3/21/2025 4:00pm Edited Date/Time 3/21/2025 4:01pm
ML512 wrote:

M Lindsay, the closest to an authentic journalist we have in the industry. 
Matthes….take notes big guy.

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3/21/2025 4:19pm
ML512 wrote:

M Lindsay, the closest to an authentic journalist we have in the industry. 
Matthes….take notes big guy.

I like ML, but how does him reposting a public social media post make him an authentic journalist?

Their post says "inquiries from various media outlets", meaning there have been attempts made to get statements. 

This is just a "here's some info, now leave us alone for now" thing.

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3/21/2025 4:55pm

Does anyone think Brittney and Jamie Lynn Lawrence will be outdoor title contenders off the couch?

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3/21/2025 6:13pm
ML512 wrote:

M Lindsay, the closest to an authentic journalist we have in the industry. 
Matthes….take notes big guy.

Just passing on an IG post, no ground-breaking work here.

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3/21/2025 6:22pm Edited Date/Time 3/21/2025 8:21pm
ML512 wrote:

M Lindsay, the closest to an authentic journalist we have in the industry. 
Matthes….take notes big guy.

ML512 wrote:

Just passing on an IG post, no ground-breaking work here.

Don't sell yourself short, ML. That copy and paste should get you a Pulitzer Prize for investigative journalism.

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3/21/2025 6:28pm
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"If this could happen to me it could happen to anyone"

Uhh... No. I'm not taking money out of people's accounts without asking so I don't see how this could ever happen to me.

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3/21/2025 6:29pm

Does anyone think Brittney and Jamie Lynn Lawrence will be outdoor title contenders off the couch?

Brittany will be the heavy favorite. 

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aeffertz wrote:
"If this could happen to me it could happen to anyone"Uhh... No. I'm not taking money out of people's accounts without asking so I don't see...
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"If this could happen to me it could happen to anyone"

Uhh... No. I'm not taking money out of people's accounts without asking so I don't see how this could ever happen to me.

"Zero evidence if theft or deception" 🤣🤣🤣 id love to see how he explains the Coenen's RV and using the Lawrences' money to pay the Lawrences.. let alone the dozens of other claims put out clear as day.

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3/21/2025 6:43pm

Exhibit A:


Some dude who has a YouTube channel spouting information doesn’t make it a creditable source. 

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3/21/2025 6:57pm

Why do the Coenen brothers stay with him, because he helped them to pay a big mobile home (Concorde or something that looks like it). We now know that this money didn't came from Mirtl' own bank-account but that doesn't seem to care the Coenen family much. Seems like he also payed the rent to use the Lawrence compound for one of his riders from that bank-account.

If riders like that, if they like an agent that goes far beyond what is legally and ethical OK to help them. They maybe doesn't mind to keep him as agent. But at the end the brands and the teams will decide if they want to work with him, and if Red Bull, Oakley, 100%, Monster, are saying "No thanks" and some other big ones too, his career as MX/SX Agent is done.

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3/21/2025 7:23pm
dinger212 wrote:

Exhibit A:


Some dude who has a YouTube channel spouting information doesn’t make it a creditable source. 

Kooksey will once again be on the wrong side of history

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3/21/2025 7:35pm
dinger212 wrote:

Exhibit A:


Some dude who has a YouTube channel spouting information doesn’t make it a creditable source. 

disbanded wrote:

Kooksey will once again be on the wrong side of history

We MX-people know that most of the time he's talking bullshit, but if it goes about more complicated stuff and you combine that with a charismatic guy or girl who can spout all kinds of fake news into the world about those complicated but serious issues... I can imagine that someone gets elected due to misinformation on YouTube, Or people stop believing their medics because they've seen the truth on YouTube...

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3/21/2025 7:36pm
aeffertz wrote:
"If this could happen to me it could happen to anyone"Uhh... No. I'm not taking money out of people's accounts without asking so I don't see...
image 1382.png?VersionId=ykPH

"If this could happen to me it could happen to anyone"

Uhh... No. I'm not taking money out of people's accounts without asking so I don't see how this could ever happen to me.

I want to know how much he's paying profeshenal125 to write his press releases

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3/21/2025 7:43pm
MXMattii wrote:
Why do the Coenen brothers stay with him, because he helped them to pay a big mobile home (Concorde or something that looks like it). We...

Why do the Coenen brothers stay with him, because he helped them to pay a big mobile home (Concorde or something that looks like it). We now know that this money didn't came from Mirtl' own bank-account but that doesn't seem to care the Coenen family much. Seems like he also payed the rent to use the Lawrence compound for one of his riders from that bank-account.

If riders like that, if they like an agent that goes far beyond what is legally and ethical OK to help them. They maybe doesn't mind to keep him as agent. But at the end the brands and the teams will decide if they want to work with him, and if Red Bull, Oakley, 100%, Monster, are saying "No thanks" and some other big ones too, his career as MX/SX Agent is done.

Mirtl has obviously told his story of betrayal to the Coenen brothers and at this point in time it's probably easier for them to believe him. He still helps them transition to the US, the say they believe he's innocent and if he gets proven otherwise they can just say he was a trusted friend that conned them and they can't believe what happened.

3/21/2025 8:19pm

I’m not wholly invested in this scenario, but good lord this dude’s grammar hurts my feelings.

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