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People are getting rich off these on again off again tariffs, and it’s not the working folks that are supposedly being protected…….
You know, I keep forgetting you Canadians were actually PoHMs up until around 1982, right? Oh wait, that was what my comment was also about....
Shh, the people aren't meant to know.
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As opposed to every other day in modern history where people have been getting rich by other means?
Yep, it's all meant to be kept secret!
That explains soooooo much! 🤣
England, horrible weather and food, worse teeth.
Short term? Depends on how long it takes to right the ship…but once the ship is tightened up and corrected, 1-5 years…long enough for the spending cuts and reduction of the size and scope of the federal government to be digested and normalized…then we start to grow, but with a much more solid economic base, a much stronger dollar, better trade agreements, less waste, etc etc. which will help us long long long into the future….and experience prosperity like we haven’t yet seen in this country (because it won’t be smoke and mirrors and debt funded).
Unless…the left does all they can to undue everything Trump is doing at their first opportunity…which they probably will…and we will be right back to deficit spending, unimaginable debt, weak foreign policy, ridiculous government waste, and an unwieldy and unmanageably large federal government and on the fast track to economic collapse…which hurts the entire world far more than the short term pain we will hopefully experience. The left is hell bent on spending the USA into economic collapse, so they don’t have to be the bad guy and tell anyone ‘no’ and can keep buying votes…it’s infuriating.
Well, thanks for doing the bare minimum and just enough to keep up appearances…(Normandy was a favor to Europe, not us)
We are pissed at you because for someone that is a “friend” you sure don’t care about your border, you sure don’t care about fair and equitable trade with us…and when we ask you too, your throw a huge temper tantrum and start hating us. To bad…you need us far more than we need you…so take your national pride and direct it elsewhere, or, fix your border, and we can go back to being friends again…not that hard…seems like a great neighbor and friend would be willing to do that? But not Canada…
Hey, take it easy on States 51-61.
Interesting take. Unfortunately, the "undoing what the other did" is nothing new and trump started doing it immediately. I'd agree it is infuriating but on both sides I'd say. I'm not sure what you see in trumps plans that bring economic prosperity like never before but it sure isn't trending that way.
I understand the wanting to get get rid of waste but going in and doing mass firings without any actual work to inquire where the waste is (like they are doing) is a horrible approach. As evidence by the rehiring of people/groups, lawsuits, etc. It's currently a mess but it's interesting that you see it as a good plan. We do need more time to see how it all pans out...
Admittedly I don’t live in the US nor am an expert on your economy, but I really don’t see how tariffs, and bringing manufacturing back to the US actually helps your prosperity, strengthen your economy and dollar? Bring back higher priced manufacturing to a population that according to many, is already struggling to make ends meet seems counter intuitive. And where would you be able to export to? Who could afford to buy goods from a stronger currency with higher manufacturing costs? Trade agreements don’t mean much when no one can afford your goods.
From the geopolitics I have been watching, as long as I have been alive, left or right doesn’t matter, all that money you are complaining about being wasted, was spent by your government to further the US’s interest in global affairs, not out of the kindness of their hearts. You may not agree with what it was spent on, by whoever was in power at the time, or understand the reasoning or context behind it but that’s the reality. The fraud and laundering aside, which I think is a different topic.
The bare minimum? We’ve literally been a better neighbor than any other country in history. Except for those 2 times we burnt down the White House, sorry.
It’s abuse been explained in this thread that the border is a red herring and that much more illegal shit comes from you than the other way around. It’s a red herring.
And you definitely didn’t “ask for fair and equitable trade” Your president ignored the deal he negotiated and slapped tariffs on us with the EXPRESSED purpose of annexing us. You gonna argue his own words?
From my perspective they are being far more careful than they need to when it comes to cutting spending, eliminating waste and shrinking the size and scope of the government…I’d be perfectly fine if they made a mandatory 12% reduction per year for the next four years across virtually every department in the federal government (in work force, and budget), for a near 50% reduction on the size, scope and spending of the federal government over 4 years…with some departments being eliminated all together and some with less drastic cuts…so I have no concern at all over how they are doing it…I wish they’d be more aggressive.
Again, to continue spending like we have been spending, to continue wasting money like we have been wasting money, and to continue growing the federal government like we’ve been growing the federal government is the fast track to economic collapse…it’s not sustainable…something has to change…no president has been willing to even tackle it until Trump…
Will it be painful? In the short term yes…but necessary. The pain of changing nothing will be far far worse.
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You don’t think putting our own citizens back to work by brining manufacturing back here will make us more prosperous and strengthen our economy? Then I don’t know if I can help you understand…It all might go over your head…
You do realize the US has the strongest economy in the world by a long shot right? Larger then China, Japan, Germany and India combined. Along with some of the lowest unemployment numbers in the world.
You can be dismissive and keep parroting some election sound bites, but in reality I don’t think any of this plays out long term like you are hoping.
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Let's see, the USA's neighbors are Mexico, Canada and I guess Cuba and Russia.
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Your answer is in his post. Who do you sell your product to when the competition can make it cheaper? How do you get the economy into a place where the population as a whole can afford the Made in the USA stamp? Because a whole lot of people are struggling to even afford cheap shit from China.
From where does that initial investment come from? I don't have the answers, but the question remains...
Wait until he finds out that all of this just devalues the Canadian dollar, making us even more competitive to export. The 25% tariffs don’t even offset the currency gap as it is.
I've been following these political topics on non moto for quite some time now. I've come to one conclusion. Many of you legitimately think you have a 100% understanding of economics. Geopolitical issues .social issues.Etc. I am of reasonable intelligence. Lots of life experiences. I can admit I don't grasp everything. I have fairly strong opinions. But when someone with an opposing opinion shows up I can see their side. Usually. I see where they are coming from. Most of you can not do this. Your blinders are too fucking big. And with the advent of Google you have become an expert at everything.
Our guy Joe is back! 25 years between rants
The goal of all of this is to keep blue collar Americans working good paying manufacturing jobs, and to take back what was lost shipping those jobs to Mexico and China. These "cheap" goods your mentioning that are made with illegal slave labor overseas - Nike shoes, Xbox's and Apple Phones, they are all expensive as Hell purchases. Maybe a dickhead thing to say, but the dipshit camping in the Verizon parking lot for 2 days to get the latest Iphone 27 deserves to be taxed another 25%.
The only thing from the GWN id pay a tarrif on. Rickys liquor.
Liquor n whores...liquor n whores...
You're throwing out numbers in regards to departments you have no knowledge on though. That is the problem I have with doge, they aren't weeding out waste methodically, they are just firing with a blindfold on. Imagine a huge corporation with wasteful spending (all of the big ones have a ton of waste) and they just fire everyone to start over efficiently. I can imagine how that would go.
As far as spending, trumps administration is adding to national debt, not erasing it.
I get all of what you are saying, but how do you put that genie back in the bottle? How do you bring back good paying manufacturing jobs without skyrocketing inflation? How do you sell American steel and things like that when other countries can cut you off at the knees with pricing? How do you bring the economy up as a whole up to a point where people who aren't working these mythical well paying manufacturing jobs can afford the things that now cost double what they did in the past?
Like I said, I get WHY this would be a good thing, I just don't understand HOW that happens without an absolutely astronomical investment from the government, and subsidies to keep costs in check. Then we are right back to the core issue, taxes to keep the whole machine afloat.
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Okay that's pretty damn funny.
What's funnier is that in Ontario, our French classes in school teach real French, France French. Quebec French is a totally different dialect. People call it Frenglish, Francophony, or simply Quebecois. So even if we took all the french classes we still don't understand half the shit they say over there.
Nike, Microsoft, Apple, and these mega corporations will have to weigh their options about moving production back to the U.S., in EXACTLY THE SAME MANNER as they did when they decided to move production accross the planet before. The free market will decide what it will or wont pay for designer sneakers or some stupid ass airpods. All the panic about rising costs associated with this, I believe will be on frivolous and meaningless purchases - not milk and bread.
Indeed. We always had a saying at that event. "Maple Leafs eventually end up on the ground."
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