“Elon Musk was NOT Elected!”

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So for everyone that’s so against everything Doge and Elon are doing, what is your alternative?  Are you just perfectly happy to go about living out your days working 6+ months out of year for the government to make you a tax slave before you even begin to see any of your earned income?  Are you just perfectly fine with trillions of dollars being wasted, lost, or embezzled without explanation?  Can you point out to me Elon’s long history of blatant corruption and theft from customers/citizens that would lead you to believe he would use his current position to hurt everyday Americans?  

I’ll take the risk of Elon abusing his power over the known evil that we’re currently living under, if I’m wrong then I’m wrong but that’s a risk I’m more than willing to take to see real change happen.

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“Clear abuses of power are ok if I agree with the underlying goals they purport to address” is a very interesting opinion

Elon Musk is fundamentally a very unserious person who loves power and adulation. I agree with the aims of DOGE but the tactics he chooses to employ are very heavy handed and calculated to produce maximum reaction. Maybe he truly does care about the American people and their government but it’s hard to say when he’s onstage wielding a chainsaw and sending out instructions for federal employees to justify their existence

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zehn wrote:
“Clear abuses of power are ok if I agree with the underlying goals they purport to address” is a very interesting opinionElon Musk is fundamentally a...

“Clear abuses of power are ok if I agree with the underlying goals they purport to address” is a very interesting opinion

Elon Musk is fundamentally a very unserious person who loves power and adulation. I agree with the aims of DOGE but the tactics he chooses to employ are very heavy handed and calculated to produce maximum reaction. Maybe he truly does care about the American people and their government but it’s hard to say when he’s onstage wielding a chainsaw and sending out instructions for federal employees to justify their existence

* justify their employment, which is paid by tax payers

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zehn wrote:
“Clear abuses of power are ok if I agree with the underlying goals they purport to address” is a very interesting opinionElon Musk is fundamentally a...

“Clear abuses of power are ok if I agree with the underlying goals they purport to address” is a very interesting opinion

Elon Musk is fundamentally a very unserious person who loves power and adulation. I agree with the aims of DOGE but the tactics he chooses to employ are very heavy handed and calculated to produce maximum reaction. Maybe he truly does care about the American people and their government but it’s hard to say when he’s onstage wielding a chainsaw and sending out instructions for federal employees to justify their existence

What power is he abusing exactly?  He’s doing exactly what was tasked to him by the president, he has exactly as much or as little authority as is delegated to him.  

And yes, he’s very heavy handed and trying to produce maximum reaction, and guess what it’s working.  If someone can’t handle answering a simple email detailing what their basic job function is how in the hell can their taxpayer funded paycheck be justified?  The government is not a charity, and the idea that taxpayer funded jobs are cushy hammocks to hang out in and collect a paycheck and pension needs to end.  If you’re a producer at your job you have nothing to worry about, if you’re not then you’re out, it’s that simple.  

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2/23/2025 10:48pm Edited Date/Time 2/23/2025 10:50pm
zehn wrote:
“Clear abuses of power are ok if I agree with the underlying goals they purport to address” is a very interesting opinionElon Musk is fundamentally a...

“Clear abuses of power are ok if I agree with the underlying goals they purport to address” is a very interesting opinion

Elon Musk is fundamentally a very unserious person who loves power and adulation. I agree with the aims of DOGE but the tactics he chooses to employ are very heavy handed and calculated to produce maximum reaction. Maybe he truly does care about the American people and their government but it’s hard to say when he’s onstage wielding a chainsaw and sending out instructions for federal employees to justify their existence

JM485 wrote:
What power is he abusing exactly?  He’s doing exactly what was tasked to him by the president, he has exactly as much or as little authority...

What power is he abusing exactly?  He’s doing exactly what was tasked to him by the president, he has exactly as much or as little authority as is delegated to him.  

And yes, he’s very heavy handed and trying to produce maximum reaction, and guess what it’s working.  If someone can’t handle answering a simple email detailing what their basic job function is how in the hell can their taxpayer funded paycheck be justified?  The government is not a charity, and the idea that taxpayer funded jobs are cushy hammocks to hang out in and collect a paycheck and pension needs to end.  If you’re a producer at your job you have nothing to worry about, if you’re not then you’re out, it’s that simple.  

I used that term only because you invoked it first. “Abuse of power” is a strong label that I don’t necessarily think applies to Musk but there is a very really and valid question of the constitutionality of his position. 

The appointments clause and Scalia’s later opinion on it could very well apply to his role. Whether he is an Officer of the United States who wields broad power under US law is a question for the SCOTUS but if he is, he has to be confirmed by the Senate. If he’s not, he has to be out after 130 days. 

I also found it very entertaining that members of Trump’s own cabinet and various heads of departments basically told their employees to ignore the email

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zehn wrote:
“Clear abuses of power are ok if I agree with the underlying goals they purport to address” is a very interesting opinionElon Musk is fundamentally a...

“Clear abuses of power are ok if I agree with the underlying goals they purport to address” is a very interesting opinion

Elon Musk is fundamentally a very unserious person who loves power and adulation. I agree with the aims of DOGE but the tactics he chooses to employ are very heavy handed and calculated to produce maximum reaction. Maybe he truly does care about the American people and their government but it’s hard to say when he’s onstage wielding a chainsaw and sending out instructions for federal employees to justify their existence

* justify their employment, which is paid by tax payers

They were asked to justify their jobs in five bullet points...

* Monday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Tuesday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Wednesday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Thursday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Friday, did what the boss told me to do.

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2/24/2025 6:41am

Looks like a once fascist country gave the middle finger to the latest fascist country and it's leader Musk. Never thought I'd see that in my lifetime.

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I believe Musk became a US citizen in the early 2000s. Well, one thing to consider is he is wielding the power mostly out in the open...

I believe Musk became a US citizen in the early 2000s. 

Well, one thing to consider is he is wielding the power mostly out in the open. That seems much better than those who have done so in the shadows in the past, and most likely still do. 

In the long run it may all be a big ruse, but my hunch tells me it's not. 

My opinion - Musk seems like the type who, if he could clean up US government fraud, corruption and waste, but lose everything and end up sleeping on someone's couch in a run down mobile home somewhere, he would be fine with that, and ready to start over. 

And no, I don't care what y'all think about that opinion of mine 😁

Wow. Sound kinda brainwashed. I voted for them, but Jesus dude, you're deep up their asses.

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2/24/2025 6:52am
zehn wrote:
“Clear abuses of power are ok if I agree with the underlying goals they purport to address” is a very interesting opinionElon Musk is fundamentally a...

“Clear abuses of power are ok if I agree with the underlying goals they purport to address” is a very interesting opinion

Elon Musk is fundamentally a very unserious person who loves power and adulation. I agree with the aims of DOGE but the tactics he chooses to employ are very heavy handed and calculated to produce maximum reaction. Maybe he truly does care about the American people and their government but it’s hard to say when he’s onstage wielding a chainsaw and sending out instructions for federal employees to justify their existence

Yep, he clearly loves the power and attention. He knows stuff like the chainsaw on stage will get the attention of his simple minded followers. It's all about division, rile up your cult like base, enrage the other side. I am still 50/50 with Trump, but this Elon guy is a complete douche.

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2/24/2025 6:55am

In case anyone needed to understand how mentally ill the liberal left is. Here's their comments I see all the time about Musk when he has his kid with him. WTF is wrong with these people?

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2/24/2025 7:17am Edited Date/Time 2/24/2025 7:28am
I believe Musk became a US citizen in the early 2000s. Well, one thing to consider is he is wielding the power mostly out in the open...

I believe Musk became a US citizen in the early 2000s. 

Well, one thing to consider is he is wielding the power mostly out in the open. That seems much better than those who have done so in the shadows in the past, and most likely still do. 

In the long run it may all be a big ruse, but my hunch tells me it's not. 

My opinion - Musk seems like the type who, if he could clean up US government fraud, corruption and waste, but lose everything and end up sleeping on someone's couch in a run down mobile home somewhere, he would be fine with that, and ready to start over. 

And no, I don't care what y'all think about that opinion of mine 😁

Wow. Sound kinda brainwashed. I voted for them, but Jesus dude, you're deep up their asses.

I'll be sure and hold the opinion of vetracer6969 (so nice you had to use it twice) close to my heart 🤣🤣🤣

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"Musk should be immediately disqualified from any such watchdog role for the following reasons: he effectively put Trump over the election finish line, giving $288 million...

"Musk should be immediately disqualified from any such watchdog role for the following reasons: he effectively put Trump over the election finish line, giving $288 million to PACs or Super PACs supporting Trump; the Wall Street Journal (paywall) reported that Musk has been communicating with Russian President Vladimir Putin since 2022, notwithstanding the fact that Musk’s company SpaceX is a U.S. military defense contractor and Putin is on a U.S. sanctions list for launching a war on Ukraine.

In addition, Musk’s companies have received $19.8 billion in U.S. government contracts since 2009. 

And finally, and most importantly, Musk’s so-called Department of Government Efficiency is now investigating the same federal agencies whose Inspectors General were investigating Musk’s companies until they were sacked by the Trump administration last month. "

If you're going to use someone else's words, it's customary to at least write down their name.

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They were asked to justify their jobs in five bullet points...* Monday, did what the boss told me to do.* Tuesday, did what the boss told...

They were asked to justify their jobs in five bullet points...

* Monday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Tuesday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Wednesday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Thursday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Friday, did what the boss told me to do.

I participate in a weekly L10 meeting during which I'm asked to justify my paycheck. 

I've never worked anywhere that didn't require every key employee to understand what they were expected to accomplish as a function of their continued employment. 

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This whole thing reeks like an inside joke where Elon is a huge "Office Space" fan. 

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Read the question again and try harder to understand it. 

early wrote:

Trump is Biden 2.0, he's being handed stuff to sign and say.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Well, I guess some folks still think mainstream media is trustworthy. 

Honest question. What makes a media source more trustworthy to you?


Does it depend on whether you like what the source is saying or whether the reporting is credible?


Because it seems like a lot of people just mindlessly go down rabbit holes that suit their emotional interests. 

And by the way, entertainment news is doing nobody any favors. 

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Rosso391 wrote:
In case anyone needed to understand how mentally ill the liberal left is. Here's their comments I see all the time about Musk when he has...

In case anyone needed to understand how mentally ill the liberal left is. Here's their comments I see all the time about Musk when he has his kid with him. WTF is wrong with these people?

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Why is he bringing his fucking kid to these events? 

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zehn wrote:
“Clear abuses of power are ok if I agree with the underlying goals they purport to address” is a very interesting opinionElon Musk is fundamentally a...

“Clear abuses of power are ok if I agree with the underlying goals they purport to address” is a very interesting opinion

Elon Musk is fundamentally a very unserious person who loves power and adulation. I agree with the aims of DOGE but the tactics he chooses to employ are very heavy handed and calculated to produce maximum reaction. Maybe he truly does care about the American people and their government but it’s hard to say when he’s onstage wielding a chainsaw and sending out instructions for federal employees to justify their existence

* justify their employment, which is paid by tax payers

They were asked to justify their jobs in five bullet points...* Monday, did what the boss told me to do.* Tuesday, did what the boss told...

They were asked to justify their jobs in five bullet points...

* Monday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Tuesday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Wednesday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Thursday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Friday, did what the boss told me to do.

If many of them were honest it would probably be more like this....

Monday- Woke up around 10:30am, logged into computer to show that I was "working". 

Watched The View, then a couple hours of MSNBC. Went on X to comment on everything the evil Trump is doing. 

Lunchtime I ordered Door dash so my fat ass didn't have to cook. Then took a 2 hour nap to recharge after my exhausting morning. More MSNBC, and then posting memes about Trump destroying democracy. Took a xanax to help with my anxiety and depression. Then more social media posts about that no one elected Elon Musk.

Logged off my computer at 3pm, needed some time for myself.

Tuesday- see above

Wednesday- see above

Thursday- see above

Friday- We don't work on Fridays so we can have a 3 day weekend. 

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zehn wrote:
“Clear abuses of power are ok if I agree with the underlying goals they purport to address” is a very interesting opinionElon Musk is fundamentally a...

“Clear abuses of power are ok if I agree with the underlying goals they purport to address” is a very interesting opinion

Elon Musk is fundamentally a very unserious person who loves power and adulation. I agree with the aims of DOGE but the tactics he chooses to employ are very heavy handed and calculated to produce maximum reaction. Maybe he truly does care about the American people and their government but it’s hard to say when he’s onstage wielding a chainsaw and sending out instructions for federal employees to justify their existence

* justify their employment, which is paid by tax payers

Grandstanding fear tactics. Love that for the country. 

Most people just try to do the job they are tasked with. 

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early wrote:

Trump is Biden 2.0, he's being handed stuff to sign and say.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Well, I guess some folks still think mainstream media is trustworthy. 

jambalaya wrote:
Honest question. What makes a media source more trustworthy to you?Does it depend on whether you like what the source is saying or whether the reporting...

Honest question. What makes a media source more trustworthy to you?


Does it depend on whether you like what the source is saying or whether the reporting is credible?


Because it seems like a lot of people just mindlessly go down rabbit holes that suit their emotional interests. 

And by the way, entertainment news is doing nobody any favors. 

Don't trust any of it. News media has a long way to go to earn trust back. 

Best thing one can do is get information from multiple sources and try to make the best decision from all that info. 

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zehn wrote:
“Clear abuses of power are ok if I agree with the underlying goals they purport to address” is a very interesting opinionElon Musk is fundamentally a...

“Clear abuses of power are ok if I agree with the underlying goals they purport to address” is a very interesting opinion

Elon Musk is fundamentally a very unserious person who loves power and adulation. I agree with the aims of DOGE but the tactics he chooses to employ are very heavy handed and calculated to produce maximum reaction. Maybe he truly does care about the American people and their government but it’s hard to say when he’s onstage wielding a chainsaw and sending out instructions for federal employees to justify their existence

* justify their employment, which is paid by tax payers

jambalaya wrote:

Grandstanding fear tactics. Love that for the country. 

Most people just try to do the job they are tasked with. 

Feel free to donate all your non-tax income to help support a useless government job. 

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jambalaya wrote:
Honest question. What makes a media source more trustworthy to you?Does it depend on whether you like what the source is saying or whether the reporting...

Honest question. What makes a media source more trustworthy to you?


Does it depend on whether you like what the source is saying or whether the reporting is credible?


Because it seems like a lot of people just mindlessly go down rabbit holes that suit their emotional interests. 

And by the way, entertainment news is doing nobody any favors. 

Anytime a liberal says “honest question” it’s anything but. 

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* justify their employment, which is paid by tax payers

They were asked to justify their jobs in five bullet points...* Monday, did what the boss told me to do.* Tuesday, did what the boss told...

They were asked to justify their jobs in five bullet points...

* Monday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Tuesday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Wednesday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Thursday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Friday, did what the boss told me to do.

AZ35 wrote:
If many of them were honest it would probably be more like this....Monday- Woke up around 10:30am, logged into computer to show that I was "working". Watched...

If many of them were honest it would probably be more like this....

Monday- Woke up around 10:30am, logged into computer to show that I was "working". 

Watched The View, then a couple hours of MSNBC. Went on X to comment on everything the evil Trump is doing. 

Lunchtime I ordered Door dash so my fat ass didn't have to cook. Then took a 2 hour nap to recharge after my exhausting morning. More MSNBC, and then posting memes about Trump destroying democracy. Took a xanax to help with my anxiety and depression. Then more social media posts about that no one elected Elon Musk.

Logged off my computer at 3pm, needed some time for myself.

Tuesday- see above

Wednesday- see above

Thursday- see above

Friday- We don't work on Fridays so we can have a 3 day weekend. 

It’s funny to me that blue collar workers think desk workers are so lazy. Always trying to blame the others for larger problems. 

Elon runs around like an oligarch celebrity with a giant portion of the world’s wealth and people just trying to do their job and make a living for themselves are the problem. 

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jambalaya wrote:
Honest question. What makes a media source more trustworthy to you?Does it depend on whether you like what the source is saying or whether the reporting...

Honest question. What makes a media source more trustworthy to you?


Does it depend on whether you like what the source is saying or whether the reporting is credible?


Because it seems like a lot of people just mindlessly go down rabbit holes that suit their emotional interests. 

And by the way, entertainment news is doing nobody any favors. 

Anytime a liberal says “honest question” it’s anything but. 

I’m trying to have a discussion. 

And you instantly went partisan. You’re the problem. 

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jambalaya wrote:
It’s funny to me that blue collar workers think desk workers are so lazy. Always trying to blame the others for larger problems. Elon runs around like...

It’s funny to me that blue collar workers think desk workers are so lazy. Always trying to blame the others for larger problems. 

Elon runs around like an oligarch celebrity with a giant portion of the world’s wealth and people just trying to do their job and make a living for themselves are the problem. 

Good grief could you sound like more of a smug asshole? Jumbledcrya. SMH

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2/24/2025 8:47am Edited Date/Time 2/24/2025 8:48am
They were asked to justify their jobs in five bullet points...* Monday, did what the boss told me to do.* Tuesday, did what the boss told...

They were asked to justify their jobs in five bullet points...

* Monday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Tuesday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Wednesday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Thursday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Friday, did what the boss told me to do.

AZ35 wrote:
If many of them were honest it would probably be more like this....Monday- Woke up around 10:30am, logged into computer to show that I was "working". Watched...

If many of them were honest it would probably be more like this....

Monday- Woke up around 10:30am, logged into computer to show that I was "working". 

Watched The View, then a couple hours of MSNBC. Went on X to comment on everything the evil Trump is doing. 

Lunchtime I ordered Door dash so my fat ass didn't have to cook. Then took a 2 hour nap to recharge after my exhausting morning. More MSNBC, and then posting memes about Trump destroying democracy. Took a xanax to help with my anxiety and depression. Then more social media posts about that no one elected Elon Musk.

Logged off my computer at 3pm, needed some time for myself.

Tuesday- see above

Wednesday- see above

Thursday- see above

Friday- We don't work on Fridays so we can have a 3 day weekend. 

jambalaya wrote:
It’s funny to me that blue collar workers think desk workers are so lazy. Always trying to blame the others for larger problems. Elon runs around like...

It’s funny to me that blue collar workers think desk workers are so lazy. Always trying to blame the others for larger problems. 

Elon runs around like an oligarch celebrity with a giant portion of the world’s wealth and people just trying to do their job and make a living for themselves are the problem. 

I'm a remote desk job worker - lots of desk job workers are lazy. 

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In general I fear a government where checks and balances are being eliminated and the ultra wealthy are pulling all the strings to grab at power. 

Musk bought a social media company and changed the algorithm to help trump get elected and now has access to seemingly all of trump’s power and is using his platform to enrich himself (see Ukrainian minerals)


It’s the most brazen conflict of interest I’ve seen and I’m scared of it. 

People that wealthy don’t get there by being moral. There is nothing moral about hoarding that much wealth. I don’t this direction will fix the problems that the Democratic Party failed address. 

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Many lib/Dems are going bonkers!

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Many lib/Dems are going bonkers!

Giving all the power to benevolent Elon Musk to pwn the libs 

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jambalaya wrote:
In general I fear a government where checks and balances are being eliminated and the ultra wealthy are pulling all the strings to grab at power. Musk...

In general I fear a government where checks and balances are being eliminated and the ultra wealthy are pulling all the strings to grab at power. 

Musk bought a social media company and changed the algorithm to help trump get elected and now has access to seemingly all of trump’s power and is using his platform to enrich himself (see Ukrainian minerals)


It’s the most brazen conflict of interest I’ve seen and I’m scared of it. 

People that wealthy don’t get there by being moral. There is nothing moral about hoarding that much wealth. I don’t this direction will fix the problems that the Democratic Party failed address. 

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They were asked to justify their jobs in five bullet points...* Monday, did what the boss told me to do.* Tuesday, did what the boss told...

They were asked to justify their jobs in five bullet points...

* Monday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Tuesday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Wednesday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Thursday, did what the boss told me to do.

* Friday, did what the boss told me to do.

AZ35 wrote:
If many of them were honest it would probably be more like this....Monday- Woke up around 10:30am, logged into computer to show that I was "working". Watched...

If many of them were honest it would probably be more like this....

Monday- Woke up around 10:30am, logged into computer to show that I was "working". 

Watched The View, then a couple hours of MSNBC. Went on X to comment on everything the evil Trump is doing. 

Lunchtime I ordered Door dash so my fat ass didn't have to cook. Then took a 2 hour nap to recharge after my exhausting morning. More MSNBC, and then posting memes about Trump destroying democracy. Took a xanax to help with my anxiety and depression. Then more social media posts about that no one elected Elon Musk.

Logged off my computer at 3pm, needed some time for myself.

Tuesday- see above

Wednesday- see above

Thursday- see above

Friday- We don't work on Fridays so we can have a 3 day weekend. 

jambalaya wrote:
It’s funny to me that blue collar workers think desk workers are so lazy. Always trying to blame the others for larger problems. Elon runs around like...

It’s funny to me that blue collar workers think desk workers are so lazy. Always trying to blame the others for larger problems. 

Elon runs around like an oligarch celebrity with a giant portion of the world’s wealth and people just trying to do their job and make a living for themselves are the problem. 

It's funny to me that you assume all conservatives are blue collar workers.

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