Trump supporters, serious question

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I seriously hope threads like these, and people like him, don't fade away over the next four years. 

 

The comic relief is awesome. 

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2/14/2025 12:16pm

I seriously hope threads like these, and people like him, don't fade away over the next four years. 

 

The comic relief is awesome. 

I wish I could find the humor in it friend. I find it tragic so many of my fellow voters, like our friend "byuguckuff", are victims of our piss poor public education system. They have no basic grasp of economics, our government systems, or even math for that matter. They live life being spoon fed "information" from the View and Today show. Being tragically misinformed they are pawns to the political system that teaches these poor souls to need the federal government to make life "fair" and "safe", all the while ceding more and more liberties for these unattainable, nonexistent goals. We are entering a phase in our nation where some citizens truly believe the federal government does have all the answers, is altruistic, and is somehow run by people far more noble and wise than the rest of us.

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2/14/2025 12:32pm

I seriously hope threads like these, and people like him, don't fade away over the next four years. 

 

The comic relief is awesome. 

Spoonguy wrote:
I wish I could find the humor in it friend. I find it tragic so many of my fellow voters, like our friend "byuguckuff", are victims...

I wish I could find the humor in it friend. I find it tragic so many of my fellow voters, like our friend "byuguckuff", are victims of our piss poor public education system. They have no basic grasp of economics, our government systems, or even math for that matter. They live life being spoon fed "information" from the View and Today show. Being tragically misinformed they are pawns to the political system that teaches these poor souls to need the federal government to make life "fair" and "safe", all the while ceding more and more liberties for these unattainable, nonexistent goals. We are entering a phase in our nation where some citizens truly believe the federal government does have all the answers, is altruistic, and is somehow run by people far more noble and wise than the rest of us.

Dude, have no idea what you are talking about.  I'm sorry, but you don't.

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2/14/2025 12:38pm

They need to realize that before the government can give something to someone, they have to take it away from someone else first. 

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R66 wrote:

They need to realize that before the government can give something to someone, they have to take it away from someone else first. 

What’s kinda nice, currently…

America seems pissec about what the Deep State is spending it on & they see the lefties defending the horrific shit they’re spending it on…

Like the assorted U.S.A.I.D. Trans this and DEI that in in other countries to the tune of billions…along with funding Heroin crops in AFG and terrorist rebels in the M.E.

You Can Not Make This Shit Up!©️

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2/14/2025 1:44pm
LungButter wrote:
The problem is you think only Trumptards have that problem. Libtards have it too. Biden was one of the worst Presidents in the history of this country...

The problem is you think only Trumptards have that problem. Libtards have it too. 

Biden was one of the worst Presidents in the history of this country and people couldn’t wait to vote for Kamala who would have undoubtedly been worse than Biden. 

Tribalism will eventually bring this once great country to ruins. 

Trump is the biggest divider in the history of our country. He blames Biden and past administrations for things he screws up. And he created his own social media platform to help silo the cult. And Musk bought one so he could do the same. Open your eyes, it's simple to see.

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LungButter wrote:
The problem is you think only Trumptards have that problem. Libtards have it too. Biden was one of the worst Presidents in the history of this country...

The problem is you think only Trumptards have that problem. Libtards have it too. 

Biden was one of the worst Presidents in the history of this country and people couldn’t wait to vote for Kamala who would have undoubtedly been worse than Biden. 

Tribalism will eventually bring this once great country to ruins. 

Trump is the biggest divider in the history of our country. He blames Biden and past administrations for things he screws up. And he created his...

Trump is the biggest divider in the history of our country. He blames Biden and past administrations for things he screws up. And he created his own social media platform to help silo the cult. And Musk bought one so he could do the same. Open your eyes, it's simple to see.

You are a complete embarrassment to the Pittsburgh area.   You are  DEFINITELY  not a Western Pa native . And  please change your avatar---as you have a street bike helmet on a 100% MX site  and eliminate your location.  Douche😂

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byugukcuf wrote:

Dude, have no idea what you are talking about.  I'm sorry, but you don't.

Actually, his assessment is dead on. 

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Spoonguy wrote:
I wish I could find the humor in it friend. I find it tragic so many of my fellow voters, like our friend "byuguckuff", are victims...

I wish I could find the humor in it friend. I find it tragic so many of my fellow voters, like our friend "byuguckuff", are victims of our piss poor public education system. They have no basic grasp of economics, our government systems, or even math for that matter. They live life being spoon fed "information" from the View and Today show. Being tragically misinformed they are pawns to the political system that teaches these poor souls to need the federal government to make life "fair" and "safe", all the while ceding more and more liberties for these unattainable, nonexistent goals. We are entering a phase in our nation where some citizens truly believe the federal government does have all the answers, is altruistic, and is somehow run by people far more noble and wise than the rest of us.

I wish it was that easy as a public education thing.  The problem really is complete shit genetics.   Once Natural Selection got taken out of the picture and you allow fuckwits to escape the perils of their own actions,  you end up with legions of fucktards that wouldn't last a single day where logic, common sense and the ability to think are necessary to actually stay alive.

 

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I seriously hope threads like these, and people like him, don't fade away over the next four years. 

 

The comic relief is awesome. 

Spoonguy wrote:
I wish I could find the humor in it friend. I find it tragic so many of my fellow voters, like our friend "byuguckuff", are victims...

I wish I could find the humor in it friend. I find it tragic so many of my fellow voters, like our friend "byuguckuff", are victims of our piss poor public education system. They have no basic grasp of economics, our government systems, or even math for that matter. They live life being spoon fed "information" from the View and Today show. Being tragically misinformed they are pawns to the political system that teaches these poor souls to need the federal government to make life "fair" and "safe", all the while ceding more and more liberties for these unattainable, nonexistent goals. We are entering a phase in our nation where some citizens truly believe the federal government does have all the answers, is altruistic, and is somehow run by people far more noble and wise than the rest of us.

byugukcuf wrote:

Dude, have no idea what you are talking about.  I'm sorry, but you don't.

I understand you believe that. You have my sympathies, but I resent the influence people like yourself have on shaping the world my grandkids have to deal with. People like yourself have a different reality than people like me, I understand that, the problem lies in people like yourself dwell on how others(the government) may help you overcome life's obstacles while people like myself accept life's challenges as their own. As long as you place your eventual ending point in anothers hands ( the government for example) you will lose, as your gains are not ever your own. Your satisfaction of completion will never arrive. Every day will be unfair, unsafe, because the end result is not yours, everything is a questionable happenstance to luck or help from someone. But if you accept your challenges (racism, poverty, sexism, disability, ignorance) as your own, no matter the outcome, you win because you confronted those dragons on your own, win or lose. Lord knows I have lost most of life's challenges, with the scars to prove, but I sleep well knowing they were my battles and mine alone.

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Spoonguy wrote:
You do understand every dime the government has is generated by working people, right? That every increase in  government spending is derived by reducing the spending...

You do understand every dime the government has is generated by working people, right? That every increase in  government spending is derived by reducing the spending power of it's citizens. That the manifestation of a people's productivity is the spending power they have and that government spending drains that spending power from it's citizens. You do understand these very simple facts? Your government can not pull money from thin air.

Actually they can and do pull money out of thin air....by printing more of it. That's what causes inflation.

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Spoonguy wrote:
You do understand every dime the government has is generated by working people, right? That every increase in  government spending is derived by reducing the spending...

You do understand every dime the government has is generated by working people, right? That every increase in  government spending is derived by reducing the spending power of it's citizens. That the manifestation of a people's productivity is the spending power they have and that government spending drains that spending power from it's citizens. You do understand these very simple facts? Your government can not pull money from thin air.

Actually they can and do pull money out of thin air....by printing more of it. That's what causes inflation.

Oh good lord don't get me started on that.....

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I can't believe so many people are so economically ignorant.

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2/14/2025 3:53pm

How are you guys liking 50% higher prices on steel and lumber?

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Spoonguy wrote:
I understand you believe that. You have my sympathies, but I resent the influence people like yourself have on shaping the world my grandkids have to...

I understand you believe that. You have my sympathies, but I resent the influence people like yourself have on shaping the world my grandkids have to deal with. People like yourself have a different reality than people like me, I understand that, the problem lies in people like yourself dwell on how others(the government) may help you overcome life's obstacles while people like myself accept life's challenges as their own. As long as you place your eventual ending point in anothers hands ( the government for example) you will lose, as your gains are not ever your own. Your satisfaction of completion will never arrive. Every day will be unfair, unsafe, because the end result is not yours, everything is a questionable happenstance to luck or help from someone. But if you accept your challenges (racism, poverty, sexism, disability, ignorance) as your own, no matter the outcome, you win because you confronted those dragons on your own, win or lose. Lord knows I have lost most of life's challenges, with the scars to prove, but I sleep well knowing they were my battles and mine alone.

~ golf clap ~

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LungButter wrote:
The problem is you think only Trumptards have that problem. Libtards have it too. Biden was one of the worst Presidents in the history of this country...

The problem is you think only Trumptards have that problem. Libtards have it too. 

Biden was one of the worst Presidents in the history of this country and people couldn’t wait to vote for Kamala who would have undoubtedly been worse than Biden. 

Tribalism will eventually bring this once great country to ruins. 

Trump is the biggest divider in the history of our country. He blames Biden and past administrations for things he screws up. And he created his...

Trump is the biggest divider in the history of our country. He blames Biden and past administrations for things he screws up. And he created his own social media platform to help silo the cult. And Musk bought one so he could do the same. Open your eyes, it's simple to see.

"Trump is the biggest divider in the history of our country."

What grade are you in that you haven't yet learned about the US Civil War?

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byugukcuf wrote:

Dude, have no idea what you are talking about.  I'm sorry, but you don't.

Prime example of our public education system right there. Unless you're Chinese and that how you talk, I don't know. 

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2/14/2025 4:46pm
LungButter wrote:
The problem is you think only Trumptards have that problem. Libtards have it too. Biden was one of the worst Presidents in the history of this country...

The problem is you think only Trumptards have that problem. Libtards have it too. 

Biden was one of the worst Presidents in the history of this country and people couldn’t wait to vote for Kamala who would have undoubtedly been worse than Biden. 

Tribalism will eventually bring this once great country to ruins. 

Trump is the biggest divider in the history of our country. He blames Biden and past administrations for things he screws up. And he created his...

Trump is the biggest divider in the history of our country. He blames Biden and past administrations for things he screws up. And he created his own social media platform to help silo the cult. And Musk bought one so he could do the same. Open your eyes, it's simple to see.

You really need to look at books. Read something, anything. No, Trump is not the biggest divider in the history of our country. Not at all, it is not even close. Honestly what the fuck is someone even spouting shit like this, I don't mean to be cruel, but how fucking stupid. We had an organized situation during the civil war to punish southern states through embargoes, and outright punishment of southern citizens. Thousands of civilians died of starvation because of the north's policies you idiot, is Trump doing that? How about Grant through Richmond shithead? During WW2 we imprisoned Sino Americans. Let alone persecution of native Americans. I could go on, but these fuck heads blinded by their hate of Trump have no idea of what we needed to do over the years to make this country what it is. I could go on about shit during the revolutionary years but the historical illiterate would never get it anyway. Shitheads, yeah Trump, read a book about Woodrow Wilson. Good grief.

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2/14/2025 5:03pm

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2/14/2025 5:03pm

I seriously hope threads like these, and people like him, don't fade away over the next four years. 

 

The comic relief is awesome. 

Spoonguy wrote:
I wish I could find the humor in it friend. I find it tragic so many of my fellow voters, like our friend "byuguckuff", are victims...

I wish I could find the humor in it friend. I find it tragic so many of my fellow voters, like our friend "byuguckuff", are victims of our piss poor public education system. They have no basic grasp of economics, our government systems, or even math for that matter. They live life being spoon fed "information" from the View and Today show. Being tragically misinformed they are pawns to the political system that teaches these poor souls to need the federal government to make life "fair" and "safe", all the while ceding more and more liberties for these unattainable, nonexistent goals. We are entering a phase in our nation where some citizens truly believe the federal government does have all the answers, is altruistic, and is somehow run by people far more noble and wise than the rest of us.

I respectfully disagree with the assessment that liberalism is the product of ignorance. There are well educated, intelligent people on both ends of the political spectrum and idiots on both ends as well. The idea of justice as fairness- that the government ought to redistribute wealth to benefit the poor - was the view of the most influential political philosopher of the 20th century, John Rawls. I assure you, Rawls was no dummy. I tend to agree more with his Harvard colleague, Robert Nozick, who made the case for a more libertarian view of the role of government. I highly recommend Nozick’s book Anarchy, State and Utopia if you’re interested in a top notch critique of liberalism. 

I will say, though, that the leftist bias in academia is quite significant. When I was a philosophy professor I would teach Rawls then Nozick as well as another libertarian Jan Narveson (who I had the pleasure of interacting with at conferences on several occasions). I had several students tell me that my class was the only one where they heard any serious presentation of a more conservative approach - by serious I mean I put it in its strongest possible light rather than straw-manning it just to knock it over. These students would say things like “this has to be wrong but I can’t say why”. I’d simply leave them to make up their own minds. I actually knew quite a few libertarian leaning philosophers. Philosophy is a pretty intellectually rigorous discipline where you’ll find less of the pseudo intellectual bs that is rampant in most humanities disciplines. Things have gotten stupider over the years to the point where I’m glad to be away from it and working for an accounting firm. 

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