2 coasts is actually awesome

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Talon wrote:
I think it needs to be combined for like a 12 race series. This isn’t a developmental class anymore with guys on east coast racing east...

I think it needs to be combined for like a 12 race series. This isn’t a developmental class anymore with guys on east coast racing east and guys on west racing west. These are career professionals who live anywhere they want because they have factory bikes, factory flights, and semis. Everything evolves. Quit trying to stick with 80s rules for a sport in 2025.  

I hear the privateer argument. Show up for what you can and try to make an impression. You want some 80s/90s vibe? That’s it. If you can only hit 3 races of the 12. Show up and show out for those 3 and maybe you get a ride. That’s how it used to be. 

100%. 

my idea is a hybrid schedule. 13 races. TC and final are mandatory. Other than that race whatever 13 rounds you want.  This would keep the field interesting with riders deciding which ones to race. We’d get the best guys against each other for a lot more races but not have the full grueling 17 race schedule as 450’s. 

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2/8/2025 8:47am Edited Date/Time 2/8/2025 8:48am
Seriously line them all up.  It doesn’t hurt outdoors.  If you can’t hack it well tough shit.  And these late 20’s and 30 year olds in...

Seriously line them all up.  It doesn’t hurt outdoors.  If you can’t hack it well tough shit.  And these late 20’s and 30 year olds in this class is a joke.   Now if they make it wide open and anyone can race 250 I’m all in.   Why not Barcia drop down and try and win a 250 title.  Go beat him.    

In old school road racing you had guys who were basically class specialists on smaller bikes and never 'moved up' without stigma. I feel like it should be always about the best guys so why not let a guy like Barcia go down and smoke

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Full series for 250 class and 2 coasts for a pre-qualified 10minute 125 race.  

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I wonder what the race teams would think about doubling the cost to participate in the series?

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lostboy819 wrote:

And all the money in the world wont make you fast if you don't have some talent. 🤑

I am guessing you were on the liquor last night eh?

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I wonder what the race teams would think about doubling the cost to participate in the series?

The factory level teams already participate in both. They would have to trim rosters because there are only so many spots. 

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2/8/2025 12:04pm Edited Date/Time 2/8/2025 12:06pm

Miami is the 5th race and now there is EXCITEMENT on who the new East coast challengers will be!

3 championships is better than 2 with broke privateers and smaller teams.

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I wonder what the race teams would think about doubling the cost to participate in the series?

soggy wrote:

The factory level teams already participate in both. They would have to trim rosters because there are only so many spots. 

That's my point. So, everyone saying put all the best guys out there for 17 rounds won't see it. 

Right now if a team has 2 guys in each region running 9 races each, that's a total of 36 races. If they try to run all 4 for 17 rounds, then they're at 68 races. So, either people are getting cut or costs pretty much double. Not enough seats for everyone when the music stops.

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2/8/2025 3:19pm
It's better for letting the young guys develop. 16-18yr old kids don't need a 17 race meet grinder of a schedule to learn the ropes of...

It's better for letting the young guys develop. 16-18yr old kids don't need a 17 race meet grinder of a schedule to learn the ropes of SX. If we had a full gate we wouldnt even know who Cole Davies is. He wouldn't be near the podium, he's be at the back of the top 10. I'm exaggerating by saying we wouldn't know who he is but we wouldn't be talking about how he's the next big thing. Now he's gaining confidence while learning the ropes of SX. Instead of blowing himself up to get into the top 5 again guys who've been in the class 6-7yrs. Do we want nobody healthy to make it to the summer? Combine the coasts

You can do a full series for the 250 guys and the privateers can still pick the rounds they want to learn on. Nothing changes. Those guys aren’t title contenders and do not need to be at every round.

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2/8/2025 3:21pm
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Theres been a lot of talk lately about putting both coasts together once and for all and running one 250 sx class. I def see where...

Theres been a lot of talk lately about putting both coasts together once and for all and running one 250 sx class. I def see where ppl are coming from, but you gotta admit its pretty nice to have all this excitement built up again for a whole new group of riders to go out there this weekend and race. Its a nice pick-me-up a quarter into the season to make it fresh again. 

In the 450 class were kind of starting to settle in now with who goes where and the 250 west class the pecking order has been established. Now to have a whole new stacked line up of guys going out there this weekend with like 10 guys that could win the uncertainty is off the charts. Cant wait to see how it all shakes out this weekend. This is a unique quirk of our sport and though sometimes I wish there was just one class, then a year like this comes and I’m glad for the split. You gotta admit youre excited for this weekend! 

I like it too. Always energized the series. 2 triple crowns and  2 showdowns are good. 

2 coast 4life😎 I am on board with 1 side being an  age limit them move to the other.

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2/8/2025 3:22pm Edited Date/Time 2/8/2025 3:30pm

Said this in a thread earlier but



No way manufacturers want to half their shot at sx titles, even if they are regional.  Star, HRC, PC, KTM all want a shot at 3 titles, (4 if you count SMX) not less.  They would push back.  The coasts work well and every OEM just wants a champion.  Doubling their chances plays into their favor.


Also I can’t be alone in being happy that there are more factory rides/riders and not less.  Way better for our sport when more people are making a living racing IMO

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Said this in a thread earlier butNo way manufacturers want to half their shot at sx titles, even if they are regional.  Star, HRC, PC, KTM...

Said this in a thread earlier but



No way manufacturers want to half their shot at sx titles, even if they are regional.  Star, HRC, PC, KTM all want a shot at 3 titles, (4 if you count SMX) not less.  They would push back.  The coasts work well and every OEM just wants a champion.  Doubling their chances plays into their favor.


Also I can’t be alone in being happy that there are more factory rides/riders and not less.  Way better for our sport when more people are making a living racing IMO

Yea thats very true it gives the manufacturers an extra championship to get a win on with their bike. I’m sure they love that aspect. 

The other thing is you have the manufacturers running 2 or more bikes per coast. If it was all wrapped up into 1 that wouldnt stay the same cuz theres only 22 gates. So theyd only have 2-3 guys total instead of 4-6. Thats a lot of rides that would go away. 

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Said this in a thread earlier butNo way manufacturers want to half their shot at sx titles, even if they are regional.  Star, HRC, PC, KTM...

Said this in a thread earlier but



No way manufacturers want to half their shot at sx titles, even if they are regional.  Star, HRC, PC, KTM all want a shot at 3 titles, (4 if you count SMX) not less.  They would push back.  The coasts work well and every OEM just wants a champion.  Doubling their chances plays into their favor.


Also I can’t be alone in being happy that there are more factory rides/riders and not less.  Way better for our sport when more people are making a living racing IMO

Pop Shmoke wrote:
Yea thats very true it gives the manufacturers an extra championship to get a win on with their bike. I’m sure they love that aspect. The other...

Yea thats very true it gives the manufacturers an extra championship to get a win on with their bike. I’m sure they love that aspect. 

The other thing is you have the manufacturers running 2 or more bikes per coast. If it was all wrapped up into 1 that wouldnt stay the same cuz theres only 22 gates. So theyd only have 2-3 guys total instead of 4-6. Thats a lot of rides that would go away. 

You’re right, a few 250 factory seats might go away if we lost the regional championships. But two things: factory racing isn’t a jobs program, and one full season championship would be a lot more prestigious than two half championships. 
 

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