2 coasts is actually awesome

Pop Shmoke
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Theres been a lot of talk lately about putting both coasts together once and for all and running one 250 sx class. I def see where ppl are coming from, but you gotta admit its pretty nice to have all this excitement built up again for a whole new group of riders to go out there this weekend and race. Its a nice pick-me-up a quarter into the season to make it fresh again. 

In the 450 class were kind of starting to settle in now with who goes where and the 250 west class the pecking order has been established. Now to have a whole new stacked line up of guys going out there this weekend with like 10 guys that could win the uncertainty is off the charts. Cant wait to see how it all shakes out this weekend. This is a unique quirk of our sport and though sometimes I wish there was just one class, then a year like this comes and I’m glad for the split. You gotta admit youre excited for this weekend! 

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2/7/2025 6:26pm

No its not,it sucks. Put them all on the line for every round. 

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jaybasher
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2/7/2025 6:42pm Edited Date/Time 2/7/2025 6:46pm
lostboy819 wrote:

No its not,it sucks. Put them all on the line for every round. 

You obviously aren't a privateer, or a broke former mini dad trying to fund this shit. The whole point of 2 coasts.

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2/7/2025 6:47pm Edited Date/Time 2/8/2025 8:00am
lostboy819 wrote:

No its not,it sucks. Put them all on the line for every round. 

jaybasher wrote:

You obviously aren't a privateer, or a broke former mini dad trying to fund this shit. The whole point of 2 coasts.

Quit whining, its a Professional series, If you cant afford to race at that level then stay home and ride local races. If you are good enough they will find you. 

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2/7/2025 6:49pm

It's better for letting the young guys develop. 16-18yr old kids don't need a 17 race meet grinder of a schedule to learn the ropes of SX. If we had a full gate we wouldnt even know who Cole Davies is. He wouldn't be near the podium, he's be at the back of the top 10. I'm exaggerating by saying we wouldn't know who he is but we wouldn't be talking about how he's the next big thing. Now he's gaining confidence while learning the ropes of SX. Instead of blowing himself up to get into the top 5 again guys who've been in the class 6-7yrs. Do we want nobody healthy to make it to the summer? Combine the coasts

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The Shop

2/7/2025 6:51pm Edited Date/Time 2/7/2025 6:52pm

Boo Hoo some of you sound like you are owed something. 

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Zoom
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2/7/2025 6:53pm

No Coasts

Regions, Regions, Regions

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aeffertz
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2/7/2025 6:58pm Edited Date/Time 2/7/2025 7:03pm

If the 250s were combined into a single class for all 17 rounds, that would be the more entertaining class to watch. Kinda hurts the whole “premier class” argument. 

I still think doing the 250s like this would be awesome:
Region 1: Rounds 1-5

Region 2: Rounds 6-10

Championship: Rounds 11-17 (consists of the top 20 from each region)

Basically works out to a 12 round SX championship (5 regionals, 7 combined) that rewards one national 250 SX champ at the end.

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2/7/2025 6:59pm
It's better for letting the young guys develop. 16-18yr old kids don't need a 17 race meet grinder of a schedule to learn the ropes of...

It's better for letting the young guys develop. 16-18yr old kids don't need a 17 race meet grinder of a schedule to learn the ropes of SX. If we had a full gate we wouldnt even know who Cole Davies is. He wouldn't be near the podium, he's be at the back of the top 10. I'm exaggerating by saying we wouldn't know who he is but we wouldn't be talking about how he's the next big thing. Now he's gaining confidence while learning the ropes of SX. Instead of blowing himself up to get into the top 5 again guys who've been in the class 6-7yrs. Do we want nobody healthy to make it to the summer? Combine the coasts

Let em ride supercross futures or arena cross and then move up

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2/7/2025 7:09pm

450 and 250 full seasons together.

 

100cc to 125cc east and west coast pro-am series. Let them learn how to ride. No 20k factory suspension, no 15k engines. Claiming rules of say, 10k.

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2/7/2025 7:24pm

Seriously line them all up.  It doesn’t hurt outdoors.  If you can’t hack it well tough shit.  And these late 20’s and 30 year olds in this class is a joke.   Now if they make it wide open and anyone can race 250 I’m all in.   Why not Barcia drop down and try and win a 250 title.  Go beat him.    

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2/7/2025 7:35pm

My worry about one class would be the health of the young 250 riders. 

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2/7/2025 8:04pm
lostboy819 wrote:

No its not,it sucks. Put them all on the line for every round. 

jaybasher wrote:

You obviously aren't a privateer, or a broke former mini dad trying to fund this shit. The whole point of 2 coasts.

lostboy819 wrote:
Quit whining, its a Professional series, If you cant afford to race at that level then stay home and ride local races. If you are good...

Quit whining, its a Professional series, If you cant afford to race at that level then stay home and ride local races. If you are good enough they will find you. 

Being good sounds expensive.

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2/7/2025 8:08pm

And all the money in the world wont make you fast if you don't have some talent. 🤑

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2/7/2025 8:16pm Edited Date/Time 2/7/2025 8:22pm
It's better for letting the young guys develop. 16-18yr old kids don't need a 17 race meet grinder of a schedule to learn the ropes of...

It's better for letting the young guys develop. 16-18yr old kids don't need a 17 race meet grinder of a schedule to learn the ropes of SX. If we had a full gate we wouldnt even know who Cole Davies is. He wouldn't be near the podium, he's be at the back of the top 10. I'm exaggerating by saying we wouldn't know who he is but we wouldn't be talking about how he's the next big thing. Now he's gaining confidence while learning the ropes of SX. Instead of blowing himself up to get into the top 5 again guys who've been in the class 6-7yrs. Do we want nobody healthy to make it to the summer? Combine the coasts

6 or 7 years?  RJ's been in the series for 60 or 70 years.

And no I don't think the coasts should be split.  And while I'm here, there needs to be a better system of getting people out of the 250 class and into 450s. There are actual parents in the 250 class, and in RJ's case grandparents.  

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Seriously line them all up.  It doesn’t hurt outdoors.  If you can’t hack it well tough shit.  And these late 20’s and 30 year olds in...

Seriously line them all up.  It doesn’t hurt outdoors.  If you can’t hack it well tough shit.  And these late 20’s and 30 year olds in this class is a joke.   Now if they make it wide open and anyone can race 250 I’m all in.   Why not Barcia drop down and try and win a 250 title.  Go beat him.    

You've contradicted yourself here. You don't like all the old fucks being in the class and at the same time you want Dum Dum to move down? 

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2/7/2025 8:24pm
Zoom wrote:

No Coasts

Regions, Regions, Regions

Yes it should be 3 Regions or Territory East, Center and the west.  No 20k suspension, spec engines . And of course 125 class , so this blonde remains happy . She loves 125,s . You want to see her happy don’t you ? IMG 2302.jpeg?VersionId=WYs JYe7ZP5diECIirXD

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2/7/2025 8:32pm
lostboy819 wrote:

No its not,it sucks. Put them all on the line for every round. 

jaybasher wrote:

You obviously aren't a privateer, or a broke former mini dad trying to fund this shit. The whole point of 2 coasts.

lostboy819 wrote:
Quit whining, its a Professional series, If you cant afford to race at that level then stay home and ride local races. If you are good...

Quit whining, its a Professional series, If you cant afford to race at that level then stay home and ride local races. If you are good enough they will find you. 

Ever watched MXGP and it's depleted fields!

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2/7/2025 8:37pm
aeffertz wrote:
If the 250s were combined into a single class for all 17 rounds, that would be the more entertaining class to watch. Kinda hurts the whole...

If the 250s were combined into a single class for all 17 rounds, that would be the more entertaining class to watch. Kinda hurts the whole “premier class” argument. 

I still think doing the 250s like this would be awesome:
Region 1: Rounds 1-5

Region 2: Rounds 6-10

Championship: Rounds 11-17 (consists of the top 20 from each region)

Basically works out to a 12 round SX championship (5 regionals, 7 combined) that rewards one national 250 SX champ at the end.

Sounds confusing & alot like nascar because of Kenshuth they created a new series top few in points get into the playoffs, stupid. Riders get hurt too much then they don’t get to race in the top 20 ? We want to see racing . Have a A & B main for the 250 class.  Hv 5% of ticket sales go to the purse .  If I go in could make 5k for a 19th I would race the B mains. 

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2/7/2025 8:57pm

250 class, full series, futures class with regions. Give the futures class an 8-10 minute race with qualifying the day prior, restrict the bikes to stock suspension with springs and valving, stock cylinder heads. Or something like that. But stop calling 250 SX a pro class when they race a half season. 

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2/7/2025 9:19pm

Futures should be west/east coast championships with an age or point limit? 

17 round national 250 sx championship

The coasts are meant to be development series, or that's how they started. Hard to call it development when you've got guys like anstie and Smith racing them.

Having futures as the coasts give the younger guys a chance to blossom instead of going pro and getting axed before they get a chance to shine.

 

 More championships, more story lines.

 

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2/7/2025 9:20pm

The 250 class is a Pro class with 100% Pro riders.  There Lap times hv been faster than the 450,s.   How did Ken finish racing in the 250 class at iron man ?  He’s a God in the 450 class.  Was Bradshaw ,Larocco , Larry Ward not pro for racing a 8 round series on 250,s in the Nationals.  Or the 500,s 5 rounds ? Mx needs some tradition keep it east & west .  But add B mains for riders to make some  money .  It’s a huge country if I,m 18 I probably wouldn’t want to drive across it constantly. Especially in winter it’s been a Real bad one. 

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2/7/2025 9:26pm

If you aren’t going to enforce the split by where your parents drivers license resides than run it as one series.

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2/7/2025 11:00pm Edited Date/Time 2/7/2025 11:00pm

It’s great the way it is. Fitness wise (so much more time off), cost wise for privateers, excitement of two series which make the east west shootouts super exciting. Plus, the title chases are mostly very tight too. 

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2/8/2025 5:42am

East vs West shootout is the best 250 race of the SX season, more of that please.

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Pop Shmoke
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Seriously line them all up.  It doesn’t hurt outdoors.  If you can’t hack it well tough shit.  And these late 20’s and 30 year olds in...

Seriously line them all up.  It doesn’t hurt outdoors.  If you can’t hack it well tough shit.  And these late 20’s and 30 year olds in this class is a joke.   Now if they make it wide open and anyone can race 250 I’m all in.   Why not Barcia drop down and try and win a 250 title.  Go beat him.    

Sx is not really comparable to mx, wayyyy more injuries. Look how long prado lasted and hes a world champ. Its brutal especially for these young less experienced kids. 

Look how many guys went into the east cuz they were injured just from practice. If we had ran a full 250 series kitchen, mcadoo, hymas, hampshire, and even forkner all would be wayyy out of the championship by now due to off season injuries and some wouldnt have even lined up. They all needed the extra time to be able to make it. Instead of running 1 super depleted field now we get those guys much more ready to go at tampa. I think its working out pretty well. 

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lostboy819 wrote:

No its not,it sucks. Put them all on the line for every round. 

jaybasher wrote:

You obviously aren't a privateer, or a broke former mini dad trying to fund this shit. The whole point of 2 coasts.

This is professional racing at the highest level. Save that shit for futures. 

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I think it needs to be combined for like a 12 race series. This isn’t a developmental class anymore with guys on east coast racing east and guys on west racing west. These are career professionals who live anywhere they want because they have factory bikes, factory flights, and semis. Everything evolves. Quit trying to stick with 80s rules for a sport in 2025.  

I hear the privateer argument. Show up for what you can and try to make an impression. You want some 80s/90s vibe? That’s it. If you can only hit 3 races of the 12. Show up and show out for those 3 and maybe you get a ride. That’s how it used to be. 

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2/8/2025 8:33am Edited Date/Time 2/8/2025 8:35am

I hear you on the excitement for the East coast series starting up this weekend. 

I guess I am in the minority who feels SX would be much better if we had the top 44 riders in the country/world lined up each weekend. These riders fill stadiums so give the crowd the best the world  has to offer for the entire 17 race schedule . We have Arenacross and futures to help  develop young riders if they are not quite ready for prime time 

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2/8/2025 8:34am Edited Date/Time 2/8/2025 8:35am

East vs West shootout is the best 250 race of the SX season, more of that please.

It's only exciting because it's rare. If it was east/west shootout every week then it's not meaningful any more. Its like when hockey brought in the shootout saying "it's like having more breakaways". No its not, breakaways are exciting because there's not many of them. 

I prefer having two coasts, it's like getting a mini A1 again, more storylines to follow, etc.  

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