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1. Fewer douchebags and hillbillies will attend "because it´s cool and popular".
2. More core people.
3. Same or better racing. Money hasn´t done anything for the quality of the racing. If anything, people rode harder for pride than money. Or what about just: they showed up to race in the first place "no special contract for special people".
4.Production costs of bikes will have to be lowered - maybe a way to return to 2 strokes.
2strokes = cheaper bikes/parts for consumers = lower noise = possibly more places to ride, or at least fewer shut-downs.
5. People will follow the sport because they "found it" and liked it, not because someone shoved it down their throat and sold the sports soul to please people who couldn´t accept the original concept of MX.
I wish people would stop trying to change this sport to suit people who don`t necessarily like the sport for what it is. Why do we need these people around our sport? The biggest downfall to motocross is/will be money and exposure
2. More core people.
3. Same or better racing. Money hasn´t done anything for the quality of the racing. If anything, people rode harder for pride than money. Or what about just: they showed up to race in the first place "no special contract for special people".
4.Production costs of bikes will have to be lowered - maybe a way to return to 2 strokes.
2strokes = cheaper bikes/parts for consumers = lower noise = possibly more places to ride, or at least fewer shut-downs.
5. People will follow the sport because they "found it" and liked it, not because someone shoved it down their throat and sold the sports soul to please people who couldn´t accept the original concept of MX.
I wish people would stop trying to change this sport to suit people who don`t necessarily like the sport for what it is. Why do we need these people around our sport? The biggest downfall to motocross is/will be money and exposure
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2. Hill-Billies, Red-Necks, Flat-Billers, 909ers...what's next? You're headed down a perilous road, here.
3. Money killing the Competition...SX only contracts...etc. As the Nationals are getting revamped and gaining prestige...this, too, will change: For the Better.
4. 4T v. 2T...Good luck with that.
5. "Found It"...sounds like Religion. "Sold the Sport's Soul"...that IS Religion. "Shoved it down their throat"...that IS Bitter Bitching.
So, here's the thing, All you guys that think that you're "Cool" or "Core" because YOU wear The "Core" gear and ride the "Core" bike and are in the "Core" of the Sport should all quit goin' to your Circle-Jerk-Light-Beer-Bitchfests and lighten up...
The best thing I've EVER SEEN about MY SPORT is when I see a family out at Hollister on their CRF-Xs and wearin' their Fox Gear & HAVING A GREAT TIME.
They are MORE CORE THAN YOU!
They are just happy to be riding! (That's CORE)
They love what they've got and are riding the piss out of it! (That's CORE)
They are falling down on the side of Competition Hill and wondering how they're gonna "get back down!"? (That's CORE!)
THEY are out on the TT track. (Again, do ya see the pattern, here? CORE!)
THEY are out on the MX track. (Uh,oh...CORE!)
THEY are out there RIDING! (Oh, no...not again?! C-O-R-E)
So, take your name calling and "Core" ideas and GFY.
Mean-while,
I'll sit here and defend MY Sport's ABSOLUTELY EXCELLENT COMMUNITY of PEOPLE, "Core" or Not, and the Progress they are making...even in this crappy economy.
Have a "Core Day"!
Manny
(Been lovin' this sport since '69!)
No worries.
I'm jus' tired of the finger pointing, whining and bitching...
Oh, and the name-calling...
.. and the "Core" wannabes...
...and the "Freestyle ain't Motocross" arguers...
That's all.
And thinking that the sport is getting too expensive as a result of mx going mainstream is ridiculous. There is no correlation there. In fact, if anything, costs of production would go down with increased volume (as a result of the sport becoming more popular). Whether the manufacturer passes on the savings is unknown. Another thought is that, while barriers for entry are high, an increased market makes it more likely for other competitors to come in for their piece of the pie (increased competition = lower price).
Yes, dirtbikes are expensive and always will be, when has racing ever not been expensive? I'm not saying that it isn't becoming more expensive, because 4-strokes are obviously more expensive than 2-strokes, but when was there ever a time where a HH income of 50k could race? Never. The "too expensive" argument is all relative until you define what 'expensive' means.
Lastly, those Hillbillies and D-Bags you talk about are the ones paying to attend the event and helping the sport stay alive and prosper.
The only way I see Sunhouse not being a complete idiot in this thread, is if you are fishing. If you are, then touche my friend.
"4mxonly" is my kinda peeps...
So, does that make us:
1. Hill Billies
2. Douche-bags
3. Followers
4. Core
5. No name needed...we jus' ride...
Btw, got to see Baja Acres over Memorial Day. Jim Marsack is right...it's Brutal...In all the right ways!
TV Coverage is nice and all but there needs to be less roving pit chicks talking about pork chops and more footage that shows the real sport.
I know that there are constant comparisons to NASCAR, but there are somethings we can learn from to make our sport more spectator friendly.
In car camaras made a huge difference in showing what the driver experiences.
Cameras have become small enough that the top ten in the points should all have one every time they go out on the track.
Can you imagine the shots that could have been used from the first 450 moto at Redbud?
How about Dungey's come from behind rides this year? What about the one with no goggles?
Imagine helmet cam shots of hitting Laroccos's leap, the wall at Millville, a rutted jump face, a whoopped straight, and all the other raw footage from helmet cams.
It may be hard to put in place for live tv but it would make tape delay shows something to look forward to just for the unique coverage.
Even if it is just the low budget cameras that we all see riders using all the time, the top 10 should be recording footage to use for the edited shows.
Pit Row
What, what, what?
Spiteful? Who said anything about being spiteful?
I was just stating that when sports, or anything, for that matter, goes mainstream, it morphs into this blob that is very much unlike it was from the start. That may be good or bad depending upon your opinion, but I see it more as a negative. (not spiteful in any way!) For example, look at what has happened to surfing? There used to be alot less people in the water, alot closer knit surfing community, kinda like mx is now. But, everyone and their brother got on the bandwagon and started a surfwear company and the crap has even ended up in frickin Macy's! You can buy stupid Quiksilver in Oklahoma for heaven's sake! Now, there are loads of goons in the water, way more fights, tons more accidents, etc.....Do we want mx to go this way too? (Don't even get me started on the pro ciruit!)
Manny on Team Green said it best in his post above when he said, "The best thing I've EVER SEEN about MY SPORT is when I see a family out at Hollister (or anywhere says Ty) on their CRF-Xs and wearin' their Fox Gear & HAVING A GREAT TIME". THAT IS WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT FOR ME...that right there stirs the immense passion and love that I have for our sport and want to be involved and contributing to the continued improvement while our sport grows.
Somebody said in their post above, that people are just shoving and forcing our sport down peoples throat that do not even want to nor enjoy our motorcycles, just for the sake of GROWTH... In no way what-so-ever am I, or anybody I know, supporting or participating in such a theory. I do not know of anybody, any group or any company that has ever had any such thought let alone actions of that sort.
Seems the word GROWTH freaks some people out and in my opinion the word GROWTH is being misunderstood. The sport IS GROWING, that is GROWTH. That is awesome to me because I love motorcycling and I love sharing my passion with those that feel as I do...whether its because they have rode for years or they just tried it yesterday and are already hooked for life.
I played sports non-stop from the age of 5 til 13, and so did all four of my daughters ( 5 thru upto18yrs old) organized leagues, afterschool, whenever, as much as possible. My parents made a mistake and moved our family to the booneys to be with the other wanna-b- cowboys and their horses... I hated it and didn't participate in the sports I loved anymore because the first 30 days of 9th grade at the new school in the booneys there were huge fights, small RIOTS every day between the cowboys, the farmers, the mexicans, and the blacks... shit i was just a sheltered city kid man. So I rode my stripped down SL 100 every second I could on the track I made on our property and started racing 2 months later and have loved it every second since. We moved back to OC the next school year out there. As luck would have it, our house wound up being across the street from a friend my age that went on to reaching as high as AMA MX #8 in his prime and his step dad was argueably the greatest mechanic in motocross ever, he wrenched for a few National Champions several years, as well. Two years later I had the most awesome life experience, let alone for a 16 year old punk kid. I raced in the high school championships held at the LA Coliseum Super Bowl of Motocross... I will NEVER forget it. It is a goal of mine to do what I can to help other kids experience something similar to that feeling, that experience and lifetime memory.
As far as GROWTH OR GROWING, Motocross has grown since the 70's, so it's obviously happening and will not stop anytime soon. It can slow down, as it apparently is these days. The latest enthusiasts to our sport will either enjoy it as much as we do, or not, they will wind up spending their recreational time enjoying our sport, and if not, they stick with baseball or whatever it was they enjoy doing. I have 4 daughters that have a mother that is scared to death of motorcycles so my time over the last 20 years has been spent as a softball and soccer dad with the occasional bike riding with the girls. When my youngest, the last of the 4 to still be palying High School softball, suddenly traded in softball for boys, partially due to my divorce, I was hit with the hard fact that suddenly the family get togethers at the sports events left everybody going their seperate directions more and more. That usually doesn't happen with motorcycle riding families, many go on generation after generation. So awesome when a grandfather, his son, and his grandson, all podium and their wives and girlfriends are wrenchin, washin the bikes, grabbin the beverages....lol... and sister is racing too! I like to share and promote that fact about our sport as much as possible. I have replaced the time spent at the fields with my real love...moto. What I see is those families Manny and I talk about are trying motorcycle riding, together as a family, as well as independently, and that is cool!
Sunhouse... are Honda, Suzuki, Yamaha, Kawi, KTM, and Pro Circuit, FMF, etc., etc. in business and surviving strictly because of you and the "fewer the better group" spend more than enough money to suppoer and keep them in business? If so, cool.
Heres to Motocross becoming America's Sport during our lifetime!
I am very glad to not see the BS insults and crap slung at Sunshine here. When I seen the Title... Huh! WTF! Were in for another hey day for the swpk group.
Dick Mann, 1969. So don't worry about motocross becoming a big sport.
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