Lawrences vs Mirtl Lawsuit Details Emerge

2/4/2025 10:26am
aeffertz wrote:

Getting sued because you stole money from someone is cancel culture?

no, but publicly executing the man without giving him a chance to formally respond IS cancel culture.

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2/4/2025 10:39am
GrapeApe wrote:

I must have missed it, what is his beef with Racer X? Other than Cooksey in his ear . . . 

i heard cocksey said it was actually davey coombs that stole from the lawrences, and while he was at it he framed mirtl. 

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2/4/2025 11:08am Edited Date/Time 2/4/2025 11:08am
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Dude keeps digging his hole.  Listen to your lawyer before all your shit comes out.

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2/4/2025 11:17am

Someone close to him needs to tell him to STFU

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2/4/2025 11:17am

no, but publicly executing the man without giving him a chance to formally respond IS cancel culture.

his responses aren't helping his case very much. guess we'll wait for your cue before we assess what he's put out in the world. honestly, the guy is overplaying the victim card. he's a big boy. at minimum, it's clear he flew pretty close to the sun, and he should take accountability for that. he 100% failed to adequately communicate his intent to those he had a fiduciary duty towards. was his heart in the right place? maybe, maybe not.  

for sure, we won't know that until the details come out, but there's nothing untoward about chuckling at the own goals of someone who held himself out as a big shot for a long time. 

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2/4/2025 12:25pm
GrapeApe wrote:

I must have missed it, what is his beef with Racer X? Other than Cooksey in his ear . . . 

He complained in the interview that he hadn't even been served yet, and learned of the lawsuit from RacerX.

Not seen anything around this, background? 

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2/4/2025 12:32pm

Whole thing just sad. It's like he smoked some bad weed and had a mental break. Even if he wins in court he's doing damage to his reputation every time he post anything at this point. For him to seriously think anything racerx has said is deformation says a lot about where his head is at right now. Like come on man, help yourself and just shut up.

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2/4/2025 12:33pm
aeffertz wrote:

Getting sued because you stole money from someone is cancel culture?

no, but publicly executing the man without giving him a chance to formally respond IS cancel culture.

It's the way of the world these days.       Hang the guy, ask questions later.   The lynchmob needs someone to hate. 

He may very well be guilty...but deserves the right of innocent until PROVEN guilty.

 

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2/4/2025 12:40pm

I personally think Reflex had the best deformation...

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2/4/2025 12:55pm
aeffertz wrote:

Getting sued because you stole money from someone is cancel culture?

no, but publicly executing the man without giving him a chance to formally respond IS cancel culture.

Magoofan wrote:
It's the way of the world these days.       Hang the guy, ask questions later.   The lynchmob needs someone to hate. He may very...

It's the way of the world these days.       Hang the guy, ask questions later.   The lynchmob needs someone to hate. 

He may very well be guilty...but deserves the right of innocent until PROVEN guilty.

 

These days?? Have you ever heard of yellow journalism? Smearing people in the press is as old as the printing press. 

That said, crying cancel culture is always a BS strategy. This man is not a public figure, his CLIENTS are. He got sued, and imo, needs to stfu (publicly) and handle his business. Better.

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2/4/2025 1:18pm
aeffertz wrote:

Getting sued because you stole money from someone is cancel culture?

no, but publicly executing the man without giving him a chance to formally respond IS cancel culture.

You keep using terms like “scortched earth” and “publicly executing” but all RacerX and VitalMX have done is objectively report on publicly available information so far. 

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2/4/2025 1:19pm
GrapeApe wrote:

I must have missed it, what is his beef with Racer X? Other than Cooksey in his ear . . . 

He complained in the interview that he hadn't even been served yet, and learned of the lawsuit from RacerX.

Yeah I get that but how is that Racer X's fault? As far as I can tell all of the major media sources have shared the press releases and reported the filing of the lawsuit, but I haven't seen anyone take a side or opine on the facts. Just strange to single them out.

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2/4/2025 1:21pm

My advice for Mirtz is, discarded pizza boxes can be a valuable sort of warmth and nutrition..

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2/4/2025 1:27pm
aeffertz wrote:

Getting sued because you stole money from someone is cancel culture?

no, but publicly executing the man without giving him a chance to formally respond IS cancel culture.

aeffertz wrote:

You keep using terms like “scortched earth” and “publicly executing” but all RacerX and VitalMX have done is objectively report on publicly available information so far. 

Not to mention he's been beating the drum on here for years about the bro-media and their failure to report things like this. It seems the media can't win in his eyes.

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2/4/2025 1:29pm

no, but publicly executing the man without giving him a chance to formally respond IS cancel culture.

Magoofan wrote:
It's the way of the world these days.       Hang the guy, ask questions later.   The lynchmob needs someone to hate. He may very...

It's the way of the world these days.       Hang the guy, ask questions later.   The lynchmob needs someone to hate. 

He may very well be guilty...but deserves the right of innocent until PROVEN guilty.

 

These days?? Have you ever heard of yellow journalism? Smearing people in the press is as old as the printing press. That said, crying cancel culture is...

These days?? Have you ever heard of yellow journalism? Smearing people in the press is as old as the printing press. 

That said, crying cancel culture is always a BS strategy. This man is not a public figure, his CLIENTS are. He got sued, and imo, needs to stfu (publicly) and handle his business. Better.

Don't get me wrong....I realize it's been going on since time began.     It's on a WHOLE other level today with cancel culture mentality.    The mob mentality in society is crazier today than it has ever been. 

Completely agree, he's done more damage to himself by his rambling posts.     STFU and let the lawyers do the talking. 

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2/4/2025 1:35pm
Magoofan wrote:
It's the way of the world these days.       Hang the guy, ask questions later.   The lynchmob needs someone to hate. He may very...

It's the way of the world these days.       Hang the guy, ask questions later.   The lynchmob needs someone to hate. 

He may very well be guilty...but deserves the right of innocent until PROVEN guilty.

 

These days?? Have you ever heard of yellow journalism? Smearing people in the press is as old as the printing press. That said, crying cancel culture is...

These days?? Have you ever heard of yellow journalism? Smearing people in the press is as old as the printing press. 

That said, crying cancel culture is always a BS strategy. This man is not a public figure, his CLIENTS are. He got sued, and imo, needs to stfu (publicly) and handle his business. Better.

Magoofan wrote:
Don't get me wrong....I realize it's been going on since time began.     It's on a WHOLE other level today with cancel culture mentality.  ...

Don't get me wrong....I realize it's been going on since time began.     It's on a WHOLE other level today with cancel culture mentality.    The mob mentality in society is crazier today than it has ever been. 

Completely agree, he's done more damage to himself by his rambling posts.     STFU and let the lawyers do the talking. 

yes, but, cancelling someone because they make obvious observations about science that happen to contradict the lysenkoist prevailing narrative is a different bird than judging someone for a universal moral failure (stealing). In fact, cancel culture nowadays is MORE likely to cancel you if you point out that certain people are GETTING AWAY with stealing. 

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2/4/2025 1:40pm Edited Date/Time 2/4/2025 2:25pm
aeffertz wrote:

Getting sued because you stole money from someone is cancel culture?

no, but publicly executing the man without giving him a chance to formally respond IS cancel culture.

Reminder: this thread had fallen off the front page, and everyone had moved on from roasting the dude, until Mirtl posted another rambling, insane Insta.

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2/4/2025 2:35pm
aeffertz wrote:

Getting sued because you stole money from someone is cancel culture?

no, but publicly executing the man without giving him a chance to formally respond IS cancel culture.

Reminder: this thread had fallen off the front page, and everyone had moved on from roasting the dude, until Mirtl posted another rambling, insane Insta.

Exactly lol. 

Mathes let him go on Pulp, I'm sure most other "media" outlets would let him talk...because by now they all know he's going to hang himself out to dry even more, because he can't form a sentence or keep his story straight. You'd think after all of this he would set aside 20 minutes for the Pulp interview, not be doing random chores around the house and mumbling while he's on the show.

Is he conflating "cancel culture" with being fired for allegedly stealing $600k?? If so, good Lord this guy needs a better lawyer or to actually listen to the one he says he has. 

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2/4/2025 2:40pm

I love that Cooksey was blowing up Matthes about how it’s “fishy” that Steve found the documents the morning they were filed. I saw the first post go up on Vital about it that morning within 30 minutes of ML posting it and found the filings by just searching on google “Vs Lucas Mirtl Court”.  It blows me away that tool has the following that he does. 

DC must’ve banged a really hot girlfriend of Cooksey’s, the personal distaste Cooksey has for Davey is seriously concerning sometimes. 

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2/4/2025 2:49pm
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is he talking about his deformed toe? Poor guy cant even afford shoes that fit. 🤣

Maybe his new Crocs finally showed up 4 days later?

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2/4/2025 3:46pm

I really wanna hear what he acts like at the races lolIMG 2278 0

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2/4/2025 4:09pm
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I really wanna hear what he acts like at the races lol

I really wanna hear what he acts like at the races lolIMG 2278 0

bwoahhh. matthes was being pretty cool about pulling punches and somehow mirtl gets him to the point he's willing to call up witnesses. 

you know, not a SINGLE rider or partner has come forward in support of mirtl's character during this deal. 

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2/4/2025 4:42pm

Old moaning mirtl. Nice guy, never met em.


Him calling the lawsuit frivolous is funny to me, the nerve it takes to steal money then act like the victims were being petty.. I wanna know what his track side manor was like i bet he said some shit. 

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2/4/2025 5:35pm
vroomvroom wrote:
Whole thing just sad. It's like he smoked some bad weed and had a mental break. Even if he wins in court he's doing damage to...

Whole thing just sad. It's like he smoked some bad weed and had a mental break. Even if he wins in court he's doing damage to his reputation every time he post anything at this point. For him to seriously think anything racerx has said is deformation says a lot about where his head is at right now. Like come on man, help yourself and just shut up.

Defamation not deformation. Just sayin

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2/4/2025 5:52pm
vroomvroom wrote:
Whole thing just sad. It's like he smoked some bad weed and had a mental break. Even if he wins in court he's doing damage to...

Whole thing just sad. It's like he smoked some bad weed and had a mental break. Even if he wins in court he's doing damage to his reputation every time he post anything at this point. For him to seriously think anything racerx has said is deformation says a lot about where his head is at right now. Like come on man, help yourself and just shut up.

j368 wrote:

Defamation not deformation. Just sayin

Pretty sure he accused them of deformation.

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2/4/2025 5:57pm
Jdog2221 wrote:
I really wanna hear what he acts like at the races lol

I really wanna hear what he acts like at the races lolIMG 2278 0

Tyler D wrote:
bwoahhh. matthes was being pretty cool about pulling punches and somehow mirtl gets him to the point he's willing to call up witnesses. you know, not a...

bwoahhh. matthes was being pretty cool about pulling punches and somehow mirtl gets him to the point he's willing to call up witnesses. 

you know, not a SINGLE rider or partner has come forward in support of mirtl's character during this deal. 

Rotomoto has came out and said he tried to get his credential removed over some reporting, 

 

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2/4/2025 6:02pm
GrapeApe wrote:

I must have missed it, what is his beef with Racer X? Other than Cooksey in his ear . . . 

He complained in the interview that he hadn't even been served yet, and learned of the lawsuit from RacerX.

GrapeApe wrote:
Yeah I get that but how is that Racer X's fault? As far as I can tell all of the major media sources have shared the...

Yeah I get that but how is that Racer X's fault? As far as I can tell all of the major media sources have shared the press releases and reported the filing of the lawsuit, but I haven't seen anyone take a side or opine on the facts. Just strange to single them out.

It’s Racer X fault for posting his rambling responses without editing them for him so he doesn’t look like an idiot…

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2/4/2025 6:03pm

He complained in the interview that he hadn't even been served yet, and learned of the lawsuit from RacerX.

Pretty common in the real world for people to find out from another source that they have been sued before they've been served with the summons.  Media generally won't know about the status of service.  Service can take time and comes after complaint is filed. Sometimes the plaintiff will alert media that they've filed suit.   It's all public record in any event.

Not sure why the Lawrences (and I guess Wasserman) went public with a cannon shot, maybe given the Alpinestars angle and reputation issues that come with that sort of thing.  Many things can affect whether legal recourse is sought with a bang or on the down low.

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2/4/2025 6:42pm

GYPSY AND PULP  too different formats. Whiskey throttle too.  There all needed. Great at what they do.

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2/4/2025 7:22pm
big natty wrote:

GYPSY AND PULP  too different formats. Whiskey throttle too.  There all needed. Great at what they do.

Uh, wrong thread there bud? Happens to the best of us lol

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