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Looks wicked!
MXGP definitely have their share of lousy man-made flat tracks (Turkey and China) but they also have some wonderful tracks: Ernee, St. John, Matterly, Trentino, Lommel, Lugo, Kegums, Portugal just to name a few are nice.
And by the way, the absolute worst tracks I've ever seen are the flat, soulless POS tracks Feld runs the SMX series on.
Like supercross
The Sumbawa tracks looks like one of the better tracks I've seen. Great terrain, elevation etc
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The owner of the land is no longer willing to host a race. Development i believe
The Patagonian MXGP track was Certainly in a beautiful area, and setting, but, it was 90% flat ground. other than the section going up about 20/30 meters from the base ground : the Right hander into the trees. The rest, even the 'rolling' jumps, were built up dirt. About only one, was a natural 'hump'.
Do have a Good look, those that think it was Uphill and Down Dale :
https://youtu.be/efUfShPXdHw?t=162
There was a wanker (here?) who wrote that that RH corner under the trees was a hundred feet high up a hill - a vivid imagination, or, just plain f**witedness, with no real idea of the track? I went to the Neuquen Argentinian MXGP twice, in 2016 and 2023 - I know the track. And, where it was, was Bloody Beautiful - it's not hard to see why it has been developed into, I think, High end, Lakeside / Adjacent properties.
It was a picturesque track, in a wonderful area, but pretty much man made - and, made well. With rather unique, but treacherous, soil.
It looks like there is more 'slope' ( though, sweet FA of it ) to the area the new track is set on, but it sure doesn't look to be a pretty place. In a / beside a Theme Park ? - Brazil had an MXGP event at such a location, if I recall correctly? So, I'll Not bitch about the new track, until I see it race.
I think you’re inferring from my question a statement that I didn’t make
Looks like a bog standard parking lot track so far.
So its better use beautiful part of nature to Motocross racing once a year but vacation homes in nature are destroying same area?
Anyway flat spots can come out great tracks when you have time and equipment to do it right like Redsand MX park in Spain. Problem with one off GP tracks is lack of material, time to build, material never settles and cost plus they are putting high banners around track so you will see just one corner at time.
Can't believe everyone argues that this is the best MX series in the world. What a joke MXGP has become.
Yes there are good riders there, but more and more will continue to come to the US.
Shit show of a series.
I loved the old Argentina track! Dirk looked amazing.... such a shame.
Ah yes, the absolute pinnacle of motocross racing
Looks like Lake Elsinore. What a shame.
Wasn't the old track really hard to get to? I thought it was way out in the middle of nowhere?
If the land was sold for whatever it is not MXGP's fault, just a loss.
A shame really, like mulletman I had it on my bucket list when I retire in a few years. Lesson learned. Go now before it - whatever it is - is gone.
Some of the blame for the shift to man-made tracks in convenient areas should be placed on teams and ticket buyers.
postcard worthy tracks often do not have infrastructure people complain is lacking out in the sticks.
team haulers and tv trucks are not going to drive miles on poor quality narrow roads.
They love the paddocks and other facilities available when tracks are built at existing motorsports facilities.
American teams are even pressuring mx sports to have tracks pave the pro pit areas for the nationals.
Now consider Spectators.
Internet/wifi availability, and I would guess in some developing countries, access to mass transit would be an important consideration.
What happens when people have to sit in line because they want to wait until an hour before racing to show up? You get the bitching we see every year after the pala round... But seriously, it takes good infrastructure to help things go smoothly.
Ticket buyers also want a place to stay so there better be a bunch of motels within 30 minutes, and I would think that is even more important to the MXGPs because they are a multiple day events.
There is a big reason that the shift in MX in general is going to locations over track quality.
It is the reason that SMX rounds are going to Zmax instead of Gatorback or Monster Mountain.
It is the reason that there are built-right-before tracks in MXGP.
It is the same reason fast food has taken over and amazon has gotten so big.
It is convenience over quality.
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