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Saw the Kenny thing earlier and was wondering if any of the older guys are dealing with Low - T ? Have an appointment for Tuesday for Labs to start off , I'm 57 and feel like i'm 100
We’re all in the same boat (56yo). It’s a natural thing to lose testosterone over time. There’s risks like BP, Prostate, etc. The Dr should be able to go over these and it’ll require monitoring to make sure of the right dose. Ubodybuilding.com has a lot of chat on it. Fwiw I’m considering it as well.
I'm two months in on it. My total numbers were fine but my free testosterone was low. The last couple years I started napping often after work. I Also could not recover well after workouts. Within a few weeks of being on it I stopped napping, at about 6 weeks I could feel it working out and making lifting gains. The only downfall so far is people piss me off more driving, just like being in my 20's again
Exercise....your only " Natural " method of maintaining what you already have left...
Started it 4 months ago....just had my numbers tested this week. Concerning parts were all normal and my T level went up 150 ng/dl. It will only continue to offer positive improvements as time rolls on. For me personally I started noticing changes after 2 months. Mental clarity big positive change... I could go on and everyone is or may be different, so if treatment is kept in chk I can say well worth it. 66 y/o
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Got checked at 40 I was 460. Checked again at 47 and I was 148. Been on TRT for exactly 1 year and it’s been nothing but positive in every way for me. I didn’t need it at 40 but now I do. Get your bloodwork done and if you’re low don’t hesitate to try it. I don’t know anyone that started that has stopped. Once everything is dialed in it is life changing. Getting bloodwork done every 6 months is an added bonus as you are monitoring your entire system not just T levels.
I must have this low T… I”m no where near as angry as I used to be….I want that anger back, I ride best when I”m pissed off…
Thats why finding the proper dose and frequent blood work is important in the beginning. My Doc was telling me some of the examples he had including a patient crying easily watching movies and another guy in his 50's that never had anger issues punch a few holes in his drywall 😂
I have often thought to myself that I have gotten more tolerable with people on the road, ends up I was just getting low T
If you take exogenous steroids you'll feel better, stronger, more energy etc. This is not new information.
The same people telling you to take your 6th covid booster are the people who took normal aging and turned it into a disorder. Have you gotten your 6th covid booster? People who have swear it's why their symptoms are mild when they do catch it.
Dwight does your health insurance cover any of it ?
No but with bloodwork included it costs me about 120.00 a month all in so it’s not super expensive. It’s worth it to me. I’m sure some people may be able to get it covered by their insurance so it’s worth looking into.
Ah yes, the biggest fad I'm seeing lately. No one can just age anymore.
A friend of mine who is 42, doesn't regularly exercise, or eat particularly healthy, is getting weekly injections. Says he has more energy like he's 20 years younger. What really blows me away is he told me he had no clue what the potential side effects are. My response to that was "well you might want to look into it because you're going to be on this for a very long time...". This is one example of several people around my age who have gone this route.
People who are "informed" will just get super defensive and tell you how it's to treat a real medical problem. Sure buddy... That's why all these random wellness doctors are popping up everywhere and my 40 something friends are buying into it. It's always "your levels are slightly low for your age, we can start you on..." and it goes from there. Hard to pass up right? The feeling of youth again.
Diet and exercise, especially strength training. Do that.
Which is what I’m looking into atm. I have an appointment Monday.
I'm 57 and workout for an hour 4 times a week and run 4 miles 3 times week plus riding , I'm doing the work so I'm not sure this is a fair assessment but thanks for your input
Ask the doctor when you go for your appointment how many consultations he has where at the end of it they say "your labs look good, don't think we have much to offer you"
Apologies, I went off on a tangent related to folks closer to my age. Still, I say proceed with caution. Feels like this is just the next "thing" bringing in money for doctors who don't have your best interests in mind.
It's just incredible to me that people will rage against big pharma or vaccines or SSRIs or Fauci and then turn around and parrot the talking points on low T or weed that were brought to you by the exact same people for the exact same reasons.
That will help some for sure but Diet and exercise won’t do anything for a damaged hypothalamus andor pituitary gland and several other factors that prevent your testicules from producing enough testosterone.
Define "enough"
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Enough to the point where you’re not living in a diseased state.
hard to understand unless you’ve been there.
I've been on it for about a year. It has been helpful, both mentally and physically. I recently missed a few weekly injections and felt like shit, both mentally and physically. Started back up last week. I am curious if I am able to ween myself off eventually or if I am too dependent upon it at this point. As much as it was beneficial, I really don't want to be in a situation where I have to take it forever. I'll be discussing it with my doctor soon. BTW, I am 52.
This is similar to what I have heard. Once you begin it, there’s no stopping it. The benefits sound absolutely amazing. I am worried about the side effects though or long-term effects. I should say.
Can't ween off of it, requires regular labs and monitoring, constant supply of new patients, side effects that are multi factorial and can't be clearly attributed only to the med but result in people consuming more healthcare services..... CEO wet dream.....
OK I'm done for real now!!! Maybe....
Couple things, obviously you're not going to ween off it. Anyone who's decided to take it knows the boys are no longer producing the test they once did, and wish to change it.
Both the benefits, and side effects are individual dependant but if you're feeling the consistent symptoms of lower T, its worth looking at. The numbers aren't the whole story, but a guide. Symptoms matter most. If a man has consistent lower energy, sleep struggles, less morning wood exc.
There are prostate risks with both low T and higher T, so it's a moot point. Either way as we age men have to have that monitored. Elevated estrogen is also very possible, but is very different for everyone. A friend had to run some anti estrogen meds at 150mg a week of test, while someone like myself can easily take 400mg a week without any issues. I am not advocating for that kind of dose, it was done with other compounds to compete in mens physique locally.... merely an example of sensitivity.
Currently I take 200mg a week, injecting Wednesday and Saturday in my quads as I like to be able to see what I'm doing. BP is normal, while hemoglobin is high normal. Elevated hemoglobin is very common.... means donating blood now and again.
I'm 42, and enjoy holding onto the muscle I've built, while being able to add as well. Sleep is improved, more sex drive, less brain fog. I lift 5 days a week give or take, and two to three sessions of cardio as well.... though this a personal weak point and with riding season nearing I plan to step it up.
I also enjoy walking around at a lean 225-230 at 6ft. Without the TRT it would be hard to hold that and I'd probably be 215 despite all my work.
Been on for two years, always happy to answer any questions.
Last minute edit, I also take 10-12mg of creatine a day.
From everything I’ve read from credible medical sources, once you’ve been on it long enough your body permanently begins making even less natural testosterone. In essence, once you are on it for any decent length of time, you have to continue or you will basically have almost zero testosterone any more.
That's what I am afraid of. I am sure my doctor discussed that with me initially, but I was probably a little short-sighted (i.e. desperate to get some things in better shape) on this to appreciate the info. The last few weeks of unintentionally missing my injections were a alarming, to say the least.
Most dudes that I know that get jacked up on TRT become big assholes. They all seem to want to tell themselves and everybody around what an alpha male they are.
I have a really good friend who had some really sketchy T numbers and his doctor prescribed TRT for him. Helped him incredibly. He kept bugging me to talk to my doctor because I complained about many of the same things as he did.
My doctor was cautious because my numbers were in the ‘standard’ range, but like he pointed out the range is incredibly wide and everyone responds differently to different levels. My friend truly needed it, and he knew it was basically a lifetime commitment. My doctor wanted to investigate further and I ended up finding out that I had a pituitary tumor. Thankful that he was a little bit more of a skeptic with my test results, but there could come a time when I just need it for however long I have left! I’m just glad that I didn’t start TRT at around 45 years old and need it forever after that!
I know that we had one doctor in our little town that prescribed it for nearly every guy who came in to test for it, almost automatically if they requested it. I’m definitely glad that I didn’t go see him. My doctor told me that nearly every man will feel better and have more energy when starting on TRT, whether they ‘need’ it or not. When tree recommended another prescription of cocaine, it reminded me of that.
Omg I would love to have the energy even from 10 years ago...
But there is a price and it's not even monetary...
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here....
As my 72 year neighbor would say
" Ya move around just as much but ya get less done "
Ain't that the truth...
Interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing. I'll have some questions for my doctor. I'm pretty sure mine wasn't intended to he a lifetime commitment. My dosage is very small. Still, it's been a year already.
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