I would like to hear Mirtls side…

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JazzyJJ wrote:

I need a translator for the word salad BS he posted but it's already out there 

I think his pipe put together that post.

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Hey, was Mirtl the one who helped Dazzy get the brothers’ first deal in Europe? Or did Dazzy do that on his own?

I think Kawasaki Europe reached out to the Lawrence family about signing Hunter when he was 15 years old. 

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One things for certain, society loves a pile on. Not one person on vital has a shred of evidence but has already hung the man out...

One things for certain, society loves a pile on. Not one person on vital has a shred of evidence but has already hung the man out to dry.  The KTM story , AUSX . Pretty telling of where we are at as people.

This is a discussion forum and this is kinda a big story in the sport we are all here to discuss, wouldn't you say? It's not some unsubstantiated rumor bubbling under the surface, the Lawrences, Wasserman and Mirtl have all addressed it publicly. 

The KTM restructuring has a ton of "evidence" publicly available to be able to discern and discuss what is happening.

I don't know anything about AUSX, did Bailey step in it again?

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JazzyJJ wrote:

I need a translator for the word salad BS he posted but it's already out there 

Herr Lich wrote:

I think his pipe put together that post.

If he's Australian and English is a second language, I guess that would make it understandable. 

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1/23/2025 1:27pm

Hey, was Mirtl the one who helped Dazzy get the brothers’ first deal in Europe? Or did Dazzy do that on his own?

Now that Mirtl is out of the picture can we go back to calling him Darren? lol

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1/23/2025 1:27pm
JazzyJJ wrote:

I need a translator for the word salad BS he posted but it's already out there 

Herr Lich wrote:

I think his pipe put together that post.

vet323 wrote:

If he's Australian and English is a second language, I guess that would make it understandable. 

I sincerely hope this is an attempt at a joke...

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1/23/2025 1:28pm
JazzyJJ wrote:

I need a translator for the word salad BS he posted but it's already out there 

Herr Lich wrote:

I think his pipe put together that post.

vet323 wrote:

If he's Australian and English is a second language, I guess that would make it understandable. 

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1/23/2025 1:45pm
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Sports agents are the biggest load of shit, to see him write in there “you will see them benefit from what I built from nothing” boils my piss. None of these riders have their career because he built them from nothing. What happens is he gets to skim a bit off the top, to make a few calls on their behalf, while they are busy dedicating their life to the sport that pays. It’s the biggest rort, Dazzy could take over his role and do it just as well tomorrow. I predict he will.

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1/23/2025 1:46pm

The Lawrence camp with Dazzy’s guidance do not come across to me as people that would do this without knowing. Add into the fact the agency also fired him but kept the brothers is telling. I’ve seen these things play out around me at companies I’ve worked around and the employee was never right.

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CPR wrote:

For someone who’s made a career out of representing others, he surprisingly writes poorly.

He is not a copywriter, is he. He's a sports agent.

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Any word on yet what's it's all exactly about? As they have worded it, sound like he possibly used the account a bit loosely on the expense side rather then just withdrawal of funds straight into his own account. 

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Herr Lich wrote:

I think his pipe put together that post.

vet323 wrote:

If he's Australian and English is a second language, I guess that would make it understandable. 

I sincerely hope this is an attempt at a joke...

🙄

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twotwosix wrote:
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CPR wrote:

For someone who’s made a career out of representing others, he surprisingly writes poorly.

aees wrote:

He is not a copywriter, is he. He's a sports agent.

There was another agent a few years back who got into something... Maybe Reed's? Wasnt a legal issue, but something where they decided to vomit out a defense on social media. It was bad. All I could think about was the poor grammar.

I just think it's weird to let someone represent you who couldn't pass high school English. Then again, maybe it's more important to be the "cool guy"? I don't know... Is that how deals get made? Bro down? The moto industry do be like that sometimes (all the time). 🤣

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aees wrote:

He is not a copywriter, is he. He's a sports agent.

please, stop calling these bros "Agents" - they are not. 

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1/23/2025 2:40pm Edited Date/Time 1/23/2025 2:42pm
CPR wrote:

For someone who’s made a career out of representing others, he surprisingly writes poorly.

aees wrote:

He is not a copywriter, is he. He's a sports agent.

SoCalMX70 wrote:
There was another agent a few years back who got into something... Maybe Reed's? Wasnt a legal issue, but something where they decided to vomit out...

There was another agent a few years back who got into something... Maybe Reed's? Wasnt a legal issue, but something where they decided to vomit out a defense on social media. It was bad. All I could think about was the poor grammar.

I just think it's weird to let someone represent you who couldn't pass high school English. Then again, maybe it's more important to be the "cool guy"? I don't know... Is that how deals get made? Bro down? The moto industry do be like that sometimes (all the time). 🤣

Number one skills are sales, and business development. If you can calculate your commission that's good enough on the math side. If you can comprehend an employment contract is enough on legal side. 

Everything else or details you have people that help you with. Legal, copywritting, social media, accountants. 

You would be surprised how many professional social media talents that can't spell themselves. You don't need it today. He didn't run the text through Chatgpt? Big deal, not the first thing I would think about if I was taking fire from the internet 😄

Manager, agent. Whatever. It's not like you really need a education to manage this job, performance wise. If you can be a CEO for any startup, you can manage clients from a capability perspective. Think what Mirtl has done is proof of that, inrespectable of today's outcome. Made plenty of money most likely, started as a mechanic as it seems. 

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1/23/2025 3:05pm
One things for certain, society loves a pile on. Not one person on vital has a shred of evidence but has already hung the man out...

One things for certain, society loves a pile on. Not one person on vital has a shred of evidence but has already hung the man out to dry.  The KTM story , AUSX . Pretty telling of where we are at as people.

Haven't you realized Vital is full of lawyers, doctors , scientists, brain surgeons, etc who are experts on everything !!

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Hey, was Mirtl the one who helped Dazzy get the brothers’ first deal in Europe? Or did Dazzy do that on his own?

GrapeApe wrote:

Now that Mirtl is out of the picture can we go back to calling him Darren? lol

Can we go back to not giving a shit about the riders parents?

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One things for certain, society loves a pile on. Not one person on vital has a shred of evidence but has already hung the man out...

One things for certain, society loves a pile on. Not one person on vital has a shred of evidence but has already hung the man out to dry.  The KTM story , AUSX . Pretty telling of where we are at as people.

Haven't you realized Vital is full of lawyers, doctors , scientists, brain surgeons, etc who are experts on everything !!

You left out truck drivers and OG gangsters

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Haven't you realized Vital is full of lawyers, doctors , scientists, brain surgeons, etc who are experts on everything !!

I mean if you're so much better than everyone that posts here.... you could just fuck off and go away?

Ever thought about that?

 

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1/23/2025 4:19pm
CPR wrote:

For someone who’s made a career out of representing others, he surprisingly writes poorly.

aees wrote:

He is not a copywriter, is he. He's a sports agent.

SoCalMX70 wrote:
There was another agent a few years back who got into something... Maybe Reed's? Wasnt a legal issue, but something where they decided to vomit out...

There was another agent a few years back who got into something... Maybe Reed's? Wasnt a legal issue, but something where they decided to vomit out a defense on social media. It was bad. All I could think about was the poor grammar.

I just think it's weird to let someone represent you who couldn't pass high school English. Then again, maybe it's more important to be the "cool guy"? I don't know... Is that how deals get made? Bro down? The moto industry do be like that sometimes (all the time). 🤣

I think this was Roczen's agent Stephen Astephen or something like that. I forgot why he put the statement out, though

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1/23/2025 4:23pm
Shenzi wrote:
I don't understand what he means by "i don't know how to get through this and if I can go through this". He's a pretty smart...

I don't understand what he means by "i don't know how to get through this and if I can go through this". He's a pretty smart man, if he hasn't done anything, then the law will be on his side. That's the only way out, a defense attorney - i assume a police report was made by the LAwrence and Wasserman parties - and the law will determine the truth. that's the only way out of this.

Sometimes proving your innocence is expensive and there's no way to recoup your money. Proably not the case here but depending on how long this goes it could be extremely expensive.

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1/23/2025 5:34pm Edited Date/Time 1/23/2025 5:35pm
twotwosix wrote:
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CPR wrote:

For someone who’s made a career out of representing others, he surprisingly writes poorly.

Judging from spelling, punctuation, and grammar it looked like something a sixth grader wrote. If that is the way he represents himself, how well does he represent the Lawrences? Australian hayseed......

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1/23/2025 5:40pm
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hardly a professional response.......lucas sounds like he's half pissed?

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1/23/2025 6:05pm
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The guy seriously doesn't know how to spell "smear"? Wow. In any case, if it's a false accusation, the Lawrences are going to have a hell...

The guy seriously doesn't know how to spell "smear"? Wow. In any case, if it's a false accusation, the Lawrences are going to have a hell of a libel case on their hands.

It's the Dutch spelling!

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One things for certain, society loves a pile on. Not one person on vital has a shred of evidence but has already hung the man out...

One things for certain, society loves a pile on. Not one person on vital has a shred of evidence but has already hung the man out to dry.  The KTM story , AUSX . Pretty telling of where we are at as people.

Accurate.  Nobody knows anything other than a couple social media posts and there are 15 pages in the other thread saying how much of a greasy, sleazeball he always has been.  He may very well be, but show me where any of them posted that before today.

I am interested to hearing what comes of this for sure, but reserving judgement until we have all the information.

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1/23/2025 6:17pm
Accurate.  Nobody knows anything other than a couple social media posts and there are 15 pages in the other thread saying how much of a greasy...

Accurate.  Nobody knows anything other than a couple social media posts and there are 15 pages in the other thread saying how much of a greasy, sleazeball he always has been.  He may very well be, but show me where any of them posted that before today.

I am interested to hearing what comes of this for sure, but reserving judgement until we have all the information.

I specifically remember a thread in the last few months that was fairly popular with plenty of members, myself included, critical and skeptical of Lucas’ character. This didn’t just come out of thin air. 

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1/23/2025 7:41pm

All time Gypsy episode if Jase can get him into that chair to talk.

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Teej317 wrote:

All time Gypsy episode if Jase can get him into that chair to talk.

You’re really looking to get people going aren’t you 

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twotwosix wrote:
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CPR wrote:

For someone who’s made a career out of representing others, he surprisingly writes poorly.

aees wrote:

He is not a copywriter, is he. He's a sports agent.

for someone claiming in this very statement that his intelligence has been insulted, it's quite odd he doesn't know how and/or have the sense to use a spell checker. 

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