I'm baffled...

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With all the talk of insurance issues, tracks shutting down, etc...

Out at GH right now, sitting in my van typing on some website stuff, while one of our test riders runs through a few things.

I look up and see a guy ripping a section out on the track, in street clothes, no helmet, and shoes. 

Oh wait, it's a "trainer" who took his rider's 125 to show him how to do a section.

Sometimes, I'm just baffled...

I'm not trying to be that guy but is it just me, or is this just a terrible idea?

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1/16/2025 10:05am Edited Date/Time 1/16/2025 10:05am

I mean it’s a terrible idea, but this spirit of ingenuity led to one of the greatest photos of all time. 

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1/16/2025 10:05am

We hurt ourselves and the sport🫣 …come to ride if you are going to “show” your rider. We don’t need to help kill our sport.

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1/16/2025 10:06am

Did you talk to anyone? I'd be over there giving them an earful, but maybe talk to Lori or Dave.

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1/16/2025 10:06am

DV set that example didnt he?

Private vs public track is a big difference in what's acceptable.

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1/16/2025 10:06am

DV set that example didnt he?

Ya, DV just may be guilty...there are always idiots out there...just ask Kevin Windham...he is also guilty

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1/16/2025 10:08am

DV set that example didnt he?

davis224 wrote:

Private vs public track is a big difference in what's acceptable.

....and it sets a great example when it's splashed all over social media...monkey see monkey do...

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1/16/2025 10:10am

I mean it’s a terrible idea, but this spirit of ingenuity led to one of the greatest photos of all time. 

Greatest photo of all time???

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1/16/2025 10:12am

Do the tracks do nothing about it?

There’s a handful of times Randy Yoho made me shut my bike off and walk it to the gate through the sandy ass pits at Dade City because I shifted out of first gear when I knew damn well I wasn’t supposed to. After the 3rd or 4th time of pushing my 85 down there I wised up quick. 

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1/16/2025 10:17am

We are our own worst enemies. This sport exists in spite of it's participants, not because of them.

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1/16/2025 10:17am

Image

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1/16/2025 10:18am

I mean it’s a terrible idea, but this spirit of ingenuity led to one of the greatest photos of all time. 

Boomslang wrote:

Greatest photo of all time???

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1/16/2025 10:19am

How many times do we see on the broadcasts the top level pros riding around the stadium without a helmet on, doing jumps, wheelies...etc.

It takes one simple mistake, a fall, a hit to the head and lives are changed forever. 

 

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1/16/2025 10:20am Edited Date/Time 1/16/2025 2:59pm

Most tracks in the Northwest used to DQ guys for even pit riding without a helmet.  I seen a a guy with no helmet ride his bike up his loading ramp into the back of his truck at Woodland MX years back and get DQ'd for it.  Lost his first place 125jr trophy  and all lost points. 

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1/16/2025 10:21am

DV is Bionic.  He sure showed her how to get through those whoops. lol

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1/16/2025 10:29am

I've had dads (sorry, "trainers") walk right out in front of me and almost get the peoples elbow. Fixated on their rider and not reality of being at a public track.  Fuckin kooks, shame this guy.

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1/16/2025 10:29am

DV set that example didnt he?

davis224 wrote:

Private vs public track is a big difference in what's acceptable.

Boomslang wrote:

....and it sets a great example when it's splashed all over social media...monkey see monkey do...

You’ve pointed to the biggest problem right here. No one will take responsibility for themselves. ‘Well I saw X do it’  this is how you end up with a society that is over litigious like in the USA.


I see a trainer at my local club track do this all the time. And I think it might actually be the same guy. 

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1/16/2025 10:32am

I mean it’s a terrible idea, but this spirit of ingenuity led to one of the greatest photos of all time. 

Boomslang wrote:

Greatest photo of all time???

image 254.jpeg?VersionId=i9OMyH0dcygSSjItK7qBPk2zohuN

Perfect example of setting a poor standard. The guys who actually won Championships would never do that.

Classic picture though...

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1/16/2025 10:42am

My date told me in 1970 that if he ever sees me ride without a helmet, he'd take the bike away. I told my kids that too. There are some things I won't compromise. I can't believe a track owner, private or public, would allow riding without a helmet. Other stuff is just stupid. Riding without a helmet is beyond stupid.

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1/16/2025 10:45am

Probably just finished surfing and had to get a moto in before heading to  ski mountains…👌

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1/16/2025 10:49am

He's an adult and obviously a decent rider, so cut the guy some slack. He's not a fkn wheelie boy. He's at a track. Kinda dumb to do and at the same time, very awesome. I mean, jumps on a bike, no gear and hits it. I applaud the guy personally.

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1/16/2025 11:01am Edited Date/Time 1/16/2025 11:02am
MOTO13 wrote:
He's an adult and obviously a decent rider, so cut the guy some slack. He's not a fkn wheelie boy. He's at a track. Kinda dumb...

He's an adult and obviously a decent rider, so cut the guy some slack. He's not a fkn wheelie boy. He's at a track. Kinda dumb to do and at the same time, very awesome. I mean, jumps on a bike, no gear and hits it. I applaud the guy personally.

From beginners to professionals, one thing we all have in common is that we all eat shit on our bikes from time to time. 

Ignoring the rules and putting the track at risk for legal issues, putting yourself at risk for a major injury and putting another riding spot at risk of shutting down for the riders who actually follow the rules is not “very awesome,” and you gotta be pretty fuckin’ dense to think so.

Respect the rules, put a fuckin’ helmet on.

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1/16/2025 11:03am

The AMA fought for his right to not wear a helmet.......................

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1/16/2025 11:05am
KurtJ99 wrote:
My date told me in 1970 that if he ever sees me ride without a helmet, he'd take the bike away. I told my kids that...

My date told me in 1970 that if he ever sees me ride without a helmet, he'd take the bike away. I told my kids that too. There are some things I won't compromise. I can't believe a track owner, private or public, would allow riding without a helmet. Other stuff is just stupid. Riding without a helmet is beyond stupid.

Same with me.  My parents bought me my first bike in 1972.  We lived in the country and the first day I rode down our dirt driveway w/o my helmet on.  My dad shut me down when I got back and said I don’t want to see you riding without a helmet on again or the bike is going in the garage for the day.  I learned my lesson really quick and never rode without a helmet on since then, 40 years.  There is just no reason to ride without a helmet, let alone full gear especially as fast as these bike are today.  

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1/16/2025 11:05am
MOTO13 wrote:
He's an adult and obviously a decent rider, so cut the guy some slack. He's not a fkn wheelie boy. He's at a track. Kinda dumb...

He's an adult and obviously a decent rider, so cut the guy some slack. He's not a fkn wheelie boy. He's at a track. Kinda dumb to do and at the same time, very awesome. I mean, jumps on a bike, no gear and hits it. I applaud the guy personally.

Found the trainer . . .

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1/16/2025 11:06am

Glen Helen is more likely to kick the dude out for riding without paying than they are for riding without a helmet and proper gear.

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1/16/2025 11:09am

Millsaps or Sorby?

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