Did Bel Ray H1 r change color ?

I ordered some Bel Ray H1 r power valve formula recently from rocky Mt.  

When I poured it today it looked green in color.

Didn't it used to be red like dominator but more viscous ?

Still smells like powerbait... But the viscosity looked more like gear oil, not pre mix. 

It kinda freaked me out.

Anyone notice this lately ?

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Rocket164
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3/16/2024 5:02pm

I just checked my H1R and it’s definitely the red color you described. Got it from RMATV about 3 weeks ago. 
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3/16/2024 5:03pm

Mine change color from red to black.

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3/17/2024 2:51am

Actually it did used to be green.

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Anyone else getting inconsistent colors of Bel Ray H1R? I recently received my second bottle of the green colored H1R. Had about 10 bottles of red and 2 bottles of green over the last 6 months. Contacted Bel Ray but no reply yet. Curious if anyone else is seeing this color inconsistency. 

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Rocket164 wrote:
Anyone else getting inconsistent colors of Bel Ray H1R? I recently received my second bottle of the green colored H1R. Had about 10 bottles of red...

Anyone else getting inconsistent colors of Bel Ray H1R? I recently received my second bottle of the green colored H1R. Had about 10 bottles of red and 2 bottles of green over the last 6 months. Contacted Bel Ray but no reply yet. Curious if anyone else is seeing this color inconsistency. 

@Rocket164 shoot me an email, cody.wolf@calumet.com.  I'll help you. 

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Rocket164 wrote:
Anyone else getting inconsistent colors of Bel Ray H1R? I recently received my second bottle of the green colored H1R. Had about 10 bottles of red...

Anyone else getting inconsistent colors of Bel Ray H1R? I recently received my second bottle of the green colored H1R. Had about 10 bottles of red and 2 bottles of green over the last 6 months. Contacted Bel Ray but no reply yet. Curious if anyone else is seeing this color inconsistency. 

cwolf96 wrote:

@Rocket164 shoot me an email, cody.wolf@calumet.com.  I'll help you. 

Thanks for reaching out Cody! Email has been sent. 

1/1/2025 4:15pm
Rocket164 wrote:
Anyone else getting inconsistent colors of Bel Ray H1R? I recently received my second bottle of the green colored H1R. Had about 10 bottles of red...

Anyone else getting inconsistent colors of Bel Ray H1R? I recently received my second bottle of the green colored H1R. Had about 10 bottles of red and 2 bottles of green over the last 6 months. Contacted Bel Ray but no reply yet. Curious if anyone else is seeing this color inconsistency. 

cwolf96 wrote:

@Rocket164 shoot me an email, cody.wolf@calumet.com.  I'll help you. 

Rocket164 wrote:

Thanks for reaching out Cody! Email has been sent. 

Is it something you don’t want to share openly?  I had a bottle of the green H1R earlier in the year.  I was a little freaked out but I ran it anyways and had no issues.  Every bottle since then has been back to the red formula.

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1/2/2025 9:06pm

Thats really serious.  They could be putting fork oil in the H1R bottle by accident.  Just because it the engine didnt blow up doesnt mean its good.  

1/2/2025 10:42pm
Rocket164 wrote:
Anyone else getting inconsistent colors of Bel Ray H1R? I recently received my second bottle of the green colored H1R. Had about 10 bottles of red...

Anyone else getting inconsistent colors of Bel Ray H1R? I recently received my second bottle of the green colored H1R. Had about 10 bottles of red and 2 bottles of green over the last 6 months. Contacted Bel Ray but no reply yet. Curious if anyone else is seeing this color inconsistency. 

cwolf96 wrote:

@Rocket164 shoot me an email, cody.wolf@calumet.com.  I'll help you. 

What’s the reason on the down low hush hush don’t hurt the company answers for the rest of peasants. 
🤡🤡🤡

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Rocket164 wrote:
Anyone else getting inconsistent colors of Bel Ray H1R? I recently received my second bottle of the green colored H1R. Had about 10 bottles of red...

Anyone else getting inconsistent colors of Bel Ray H1R? I recently received my second bottle of the green colored H1R. Had about 10 bottles of red and 2 bottles of green over the last 6 months. Contacted Bel Ray but no reply yet. Curious if anyone else is seeing this color inconsistency. 

cwolf96 wrote:

@Rocket164 shoot me an email, cody.wolf@calumet.com.  I'll help you. 

What’s the reason on the down low hush hush don’t hurt the company answers for the rest of peasants. 
🤡🤡🤡

@greatlakeskind there's nothing down low or hush hush.  Wednesday night was the first time I saw this post, I missed the original post from back in March.  Anyways, it was the first time I've seen any complaints on H1-R and I wanted to get to the bottom of it.  Rather than go back and forth on a public forum, I asked him to shoot me an email.  Rocket164 emailed me more photos, yesterday I sent them to our Quality Specialist and he's going back to the pull the retains from that batch.  

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1/3/2025 8:10am

I opened a new bottle of Yamalube 2R the other day and a couple big lumps of gel poured out. Not sure what it was. I threw it away and opened another bottle. This was one of the newer bottles with the blue label. 

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The red color is from dye added to make it red- so you can see if gas has been mixed or not.

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Back in 76 or 77 Bel-Ray came in a skinny white plastic bottles. I grabbed the fork oil bottle and mixed it 32-1. Went out and seized my 76 or 77 RM250. It seized so bad had to go 40 over and that was not enough. The ring pin came out and grooved the cylinder. The mistake was mine but I would be very worried if the color was different than what I was used to now.

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BRX-WRX wrote:
Back in 76 or 77 Bel-Ray came in a skinny white plastic bottles. I grabbed the fork oil bottle and mixed it 32-1. Went out and...

Back in 76 or 77 Bel-Ray came in a skinny white plastic bottles. I grabbed the fork oil bottle and mixed it 32-1. Went out and seized my 76 or 77 RM250. It seized so bad had to go 40 over and that was not enough. The ring pin came out and grooved the cylinder. The mistake was mine but I would be very worried if the color was different than what I was used to now.

My father used to have those skiny bottles for his yz 400 smoker.

 

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1/3/2025 9:48pm

A few years ago I emailed Belray after I got a case of watered down air filter oil and never received a response. The stuff would just run right out of the air filter, not at all like the tacky stuff I’d been using for years. And at the same time, posts here about the original facility closing… still “Belray” but owned by calumet now, certainly was enough for me to lose faith  

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VE290 wrote:
A few years ago I emailed Belray after I got a case of watered down air filter oil and never received a response. The stuff would...

A few years ago I emailed Belray after I got a case of watered down air filter oil and never received a response. The stuff would just run right out of the air filter, not at all like the tacky stuff I’d been using for years. And at the same time, posts here about the original facility closing… still “Belray” but owned by calumet now, certainly was enough for me to lose faith  

I'm sorry that you had that experience with Bel-Ray.  Mistakes happen but I've always been proud of our team and their responsiveness when issues arise with our customers.  If you didn't get a response, I can understand your frustration.  

For what it's worth, Calumet purchased Bel-Ray in 2013.  A lot of time has passed since the acquisition.  Same goes for the facility, we migrated away from New Jersey before the pandemic.  Moving our production to our Texas facility increased production capacity, warehouse space & improved our logistics/transportation lead time to distributors.  

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  Speaking of the days when some of the Bel-Ray oils came in the tall, skinny bottles, like MC1 and foam filter oil......  A racer kid of mine called me one morning to ask what would happen if you used filter oil as premix? He went on to say his dad was doing him a favor by having 5 gallons of premix ready so fast boy could go out ditch banging that evening on his Arctic Cat snowmobile. When he looked later, after riding the sled for hours that night, he saw a full bottle of MC1 and the empty bottle of filter oil in the trash. His dad confirmed he had mistakenly used the filter oil for premix. After I recovered from laughing my ass off, I asked how it ran, he said same as always! The fact the sled was an older, fan cooled, lower performance model (think Yamaha DT125 if it were a bike) saved it.

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