California up through 2025 dirt bikes now legal

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Edited Date/Time 12/30/2024 9:30am

   Here’s some good news that should help riders and dealerships. Previously if your off road bike was considered non-compliant by the overbearing California air research board you were issued a red sticker which meant you could only ride your dirt bike seasonally or on private property. That was nearly all dirt bikes especially competition bikes. Then they went further and decided all non compliant dirt bikes from model year 2022 and newer could not even get a red sticker which meant they could never be ridden off private property. It was ridiculous. So some people were able to luckily get a sticker at the risk of getting their bike impounded and dealerships heavily fined. Well all that crap is over for now and new registered dirt bikes can be ridden in any OHV designated area like the rest of the US. 

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Moto Nomad
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12/29/2024 12:43pm

Does this only cover bikes that already have a red sticker? This is good news, but as usual, confusing as hell. What if you have a pre-2022 bike that is currently unregistered and has no sticker?

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12/29/2024 12:44pm

Good news !  The bean counters must've figured out that we're going to ride them off road anyway might as well not lose that registration $ 

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12/29/2024 12:48pm
Moto Nomad wrote:
Does this only cover bikes that already have a red sticker? This is good news, but as usual, confusing as hell. What if you have a...

Does this only cover bikes that already have a red sticker? This is good news, but as usual, confusing as hell. What if you have a pre-2022 bike that is currently unregistered and has no sticker?

Go register it and get a sticker to ride off-road 

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12/29/2024 3:09pm

Awesome. So now my 2014 and 2016 KX450s are Green Sticker bikes. 🙌🏾😍. Glad I never sold them.  

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12/29/2024 5:31pm Edited Date/Time 12/29/2024 5:42pm

I believe your last sentence is incorrect: you still need a red or green sticker registration. Red stickers aren't issued for anything after 2021 model years. This bulletin does not change that. This bulletin just merges past red-stickered bikes into green sticker.

Has anyone gotten a red sticker for a 2022 model or newer? Am I missing something?

All the ohv bulletins are posted here: https://ohv.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=1234

Edit: The title of your post is FALSE: no red-stickers are eligible for 2022 model years and newer: 
https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/new-vehicle-and-engine-certification-executive-orders-light-duty-vehicles
This means we still cannot register new bikes unless they are on the green sticker list.

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12/29/2024 5:41pm

I’ve definitely seen newer bikes in some state parks with red stickers, and I’ve heard that at least some DMVs were issuing them due to the situation being unclear/mismanaged. No idea if those would be grandfathered in once the sticker expires if the bike is newer than 2021. 

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12/29/2024 5:45pm Edited Date/Time 12/29/2024 5:54pm
msp332 wrote:
I believe your last sentence is incorrect: you still need a red or green sticker registration. Red stickers aren't issued for anything after 2021 model...

I believe your last sentence is incorrect: you still need a red or green sticker registration. Red stickers aren't issued for anything after 2021 model years. This bulletin does not change that. This bulletin just merges past red-stickered bikes into green sticker.

Has anyone gotten a red sticker for a 2022 model or newer? Am I missing something?

All the ohv bulletins are posted here: https://ohv.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=1234

Edit: The title of your post is FALSE: no red-stickers are eligible for 2022 model years and newer: 
https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/new-vehicle-and-engine-certification-executive-orders-light-duty-vehicles
This means we still cannot register new bikes unless they are on the green sticker list.

Theres a bold sentence in the bulletin that says DMV continues to issue red stickers for 2022 models and newer.

Seems there is confusion here for sure. I didn't expect this, but I did get a red sticker with my 2023 YZ 250... Guess I'll see what happens.

Edit: Also the 2nd page of the bulletin:

GUIDANCE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS

Although CARB amended its regulations in 2019, phasing out the Red Sticker program for model year 2021 and older, the DMV continues to issue Red Sticker registration for 2022 and later model year competition motorcycles pursuant to CVC §38010. Until further notice, Law Enforcement shall treat all off-highway motor vehicles with current Red-Sticker registration as valid regardless of model year, so long as the registration matches the VIN.  

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12/29/2024 5:48pm

I have red stickers for my 2024 YZ450FX and wife's 2023 KTM 250XC. People are definitely still getting stickers. Might be dealer dependent, but it's definitely still happening.

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12/29/2024 6:39pm

Dear Sacramento/CARB ass holes,

EABOD

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12/29/2024 6:41pm

What does previously registered mean?

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12/29/2024 6:50pm
kicker wrote:
I’ve definitely seen newer bikes in some state parks with red stickers, and I’ve heard that at least some DMVs were issuing them due to the...

I’ve definitely seen newer bikes in some state parks with red stickers, and I’ve heard that at least some DMVs were issuing them due to the situation being unclear/mismanaged. No idea if those would be grandfathered in once the sticker expires if the bike is newer than 2021. 

That is fantastic - but per the CARB website they aren't on any red sticker list. I would never assume the DMV would give you one.

Smoke em if you got em!

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SoCalMX70 wrote:
Theres a bold sentence in the bulletin that says DMV continues to issue red stickers for 2022 models and newer.Seems there is confusion here for sure...

Theres a bold sentence in the bulletin that says DMV continues to issue red stickers for 2022 models and newer.

Seems there is confusion here for sure. I didn't expect this, but I did get a red sticker with my 2023 YZ 250... Guess I'll see what happens.

Edit: Also the 2nd page of the bulletin:

GUIDANCE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS

Although CARB amended its regulations in 2019, phasing out the Red Sticker program for model year 2021 and older, the DMV continues to issue Red Sticker registration for 2022 and later model year competition motorcycles pursuant to CVC §38010. Until further notice, Law Enforcement shall treat all off-highway motor vehicles with current Red-Sticker registration as valid regardless of model year, so long as the registration matches the VIN.  

Hopefully the confused DMV gives out red stickers. They are specifically not on the red sticker list per the second link in my post.

12/29/2024 7:33pm
kicker wrote:
I’ve definitely seen newer bikes in some state parks with red stickers, and I’ve heard that at least some DMVs were issuing them due to the...

I’ve definitely seen newer bikes in some state parks with red stickers, and I’ve heard that at least some DMVs were issuing them due to the situation being unclear/mismanaged. No idea if those would be grandfathered in once the sticker expires if the bike is newer than 2021. 

msp332 wrote:
That is fantastic - but per the CARB website they aren't on any red sticker list. I would never assume the DMV would give you one.Smoke...

That is fantastic - but per the CARB website they aren't on any red sticker list. I would never assume the DMV would give you one.

Smoke em if you got em!

So is the bold statement “the DMV continues to issue red stickers for model year 2022 and newer” not correct?

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12/29/2024 7:34pm
TeamGreen wrote:

Dear Sacramento/CARB ass holes,

EABOD

Seems like we are back to 2002 rules again with no more restrictions?

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12/29/2024 7:36pm
TeamGreen wrote:

Dear Sacramento/CARB ass holes,

EABOD

Seems like we are back to 2002 rules again with no more restrictions?

Shhhhhh…

Don’t tell nobody! 🤣

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12/29/2024 7:37pm
TeamGreen wrote:

Dear Sacramento/CARB ass holes,

EABOD

Seems like we are back to 2002 rules again with no more restrictions?

TeamGreen wrote:

Shhhhhh…

Don’t tell nobody! 🤣

I know. Summers at Hollister and Metcalf gonna be nuts again 

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12/29/2024 7:43pm Edited Date/Time 12/29/2024 7:52pm

Seems like we are back to 2002 rules again with no more restrictions?

TeamGreen wrote:

Shhhhhh…

Don’t tell nobody! 🤣

I know. Summers at Hollister and Metcalf gonna be nuts again 

White Transit Van…CRF-X in Baja trim…Siberian Husky…parked near vet track…likely various old smoker Honda, DH1 Kawis or 125/250 Zooks about…

Come say Howdy & have a beer. 
 

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12/29/2024 7:47pm

If we are tossing out rules from the last 2 decades that don’t make sense, maybe we can get clear creek open again. 

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12/29/2024 7:51pm

If we are tossing out rules from the last 2 decades that don’t make sense, maybe we can get clear creek open again. 

I’m with ya; but, after recent visits and exploration…

I wouldn’t hold my breath 

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12/30/2024 7:03am Edited Date/Time 12/30/2024 8:44am
msp332 wrote:
I believe your last sentence is incorrect: you still need a red or green sticker registration. Red stickers aren't issued for anything after 2021 model...

I believe your last sentence is incorrect: you still need a red or green sticker registration. Red stickers aren't issued for anything after 2021 model years. This bulletin does not change that. This bulletin just merges past red-stickered bikes into green sticker.

Has anyone gotten a red sticker for a 2022 model or newer? Am I missing something?

All the ohv bulletins are posted here: https://ohv.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=1234

Edit: The title of your post is FALSE: no red-stickers are eligible for 2022 model years and newer: 
https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/new-vehicle-and-engine-certification-executive-orders-light-duty-vehicles
This means we still cannot register new bikes unless they are on the green sticker list.

I’ve gotten red stickers mailed to me on 4 new dirt bikes: 2022 GasGas MC125, 2023 Husky FC350, 2023 Beta, 2024 Kawasaki KX450. I’ve also gone through the process of presenting the MSO along with the bill of sale to dmv on a bike bought out of state and gotten a sticker. You do you but this is why I hesitated to post this because we don’t need too much inquiry or noise that may fall on the wrong ears. 

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12/30/2024 7:18am

When Washington/Oregon get to this level of stupidity I’m going to lose my mind. Not far off though

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12/30/2024 7:37am

When Washington/Oregon get to this level of stupidity I’m going to lose my mind. Not far off though

Move east. As long as you're not from CA it's all good

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12/30/2024 7:40am

This really great news. We can all thank the AMA for their tireless efforts in getting this long overdue resolution passed. What a great fkng organization the AMA is. 

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12/30/2024 8:19am
MOTO13 wrote:
This really great news. We can all thank the AMA for their tireless efforts in getting this long overdue resolution passed. What a great fkng organization...

This really great news. We can all thank the AMA for their tireless efforts in getting this long overdue resolution passed. What a great fkng organization the AMA is. 

I seriously doubt that the AMA had anything to do with this. 

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12/30/2024 8:33am
MOTO13 wrote:
This really great news. We can all thank the AMA for their tireless efforts in getting this long overdue resolution passed. What a great fkng organization...

This really great news. We can all thank the AMA for their tireless efforts in getting this long overdue resolution passed. What a great fkng organization the AMA is. 

It was the California motorsports industry council most likely. The ama does not help and has not done much for decades. 

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I was being sarcastic about the AMA. The AMA hasn't done anything to help off road in decades. The main focus of the AMA for the past 30 years is to collect dues and pay themselves.

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TeamGreen wrote:

Dear Sacramento/CARB ass holes,

EABOD

Dear TeamGreen,

I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for helping me improving in english.

😆

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12/30/2024 9:58am

It comes down to the Supreme Court decision Chevron deference.  I had posted about it a while back.  CARB and even the epa thought they could get around laws by making their own rules.  Competition only vehicles are specifically exempt from any regulation of the epa.  CARB got their authority from the epa basically.  Thus, still not legal for them to make up rules for competition vehicles.  Boom!  Love Trump's SC.

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12/30/2024 10:40am

Sounds like they realized the DMV has been issuing registration for bikes that weren't supposed to be eligible.  And it was going to be a cluster to try to enforce, so decided to just give up for now. 

The question is, will all 2022-2025 bikes continue to have registration renewed, or is this just going to be a 2-year extension?  (2 years because the red/green stickers are valid for 2 years.)

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12/30/2024 11:00am
RichieW13 wrote:
Sounds like they realized the DMV has been issuing registration for bikes that weren't supposed to be eligible.  And it was going to be a cluster...

Sounds like they realized the DMV has been issuing registration for bikes that weren't supposed to be eligible.  And it was going to be a cluster to try to enforce, so decided to just give up for now. 

The question is, will all 2022-2025 bikes continue to have registration renewed, or is this just going to be a 2-year extension?  (2 years because the red/green stickers are valid for 2 years.)

Unless there is a law made for competition vehicles, so they can fall under the  epa regulations, this will remain the same indefinitely.  Rules regarding competition only vehicles can not be regulated by the epa or CARB.  

 

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