Roczen to tace AMA SX and FIM MX in 2011

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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 2:18pm
That kid wants to stay in Europe, but follow his dream for six months of the year. This rocks.
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6/26/2010 10:22pm
Is this why the FIM scheduled their series to fit around the AMA SX series?
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Spinner wrote:
Is this why the FIM scheduled their series to fit around the AMA SX series?
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6/26/2010 10:26pm
So the FIM is catering to this one kid?
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6/26/2010 10:27pm
Looks like the GPs are trying to keep their riders

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Spinner wrote:
So the FIM is catering to this one kid?
no for riders like him dreaming to ride ama sx.
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Masonry wrote:
Looks like the GPs are trying to keep their riders
anything wrong whit it?
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6/26/2010 11:40pm
Too bad he's not racing AMA MX

He'd probably win out due to the weakness of the American series.
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6/26/2010 11:50pm Edited Date/Time 6/26/2010 11:50pm
Spinner wrote:
So the FIM is catering to this one kid?
line-up wrote:
no for riders like him dreaming to ride ama sx.
And for SX only riders how dream to ride the GP series. Tongue
6/27/2010 12:03am Edited Date/Time 6/27/2010 12:09am
Spinner wrote:
So the FIM is catering to this one kid?
line-up wrote:
no for riders like him dreaming to ride ama sx.
I think it's more that the FIM sees that they are losing top rider after top rider to the AMA because of the top guys wanting to race sx. Every kid growing up dreams of racing in American stadiums packed with fans and making the big bucks. Oh and scoring the hot podium chickies too ..

The way it was before to race SX you had to miss the GP's. So riders would obviously have to race the ama outdoors too if they wanted to race sx before. So the GP's have really started losing more riders then ever because of that fact.. Now with the new GP schedule the FIM and Guiseppe think that might make it where riders will still race the GP's even while racing AMA SX. Guiseppe's no fool. He knows he had to stop the bleeding.. He's also attacking the USA MX market as well by running a couple USGP's a year. That way guys like Ken Roczen that's riding SX and GP's may be able to bring on full time American based sponsors that want some world wide marketing as well. Someone that sponsors a SX / GP team not only gets national coverage w/SX they also get a couple USGP's and worldwide coverage with the other 10 GP's.
I think it's going to be interesting to see what happens in the MX/SX world in the future. Will more guys run SX full time and the GP's full time ? If so what kind of teams will form that are SX / GP teams?



This could get interesting.. No?
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I don't think there will be teams doing AMA SX and GP MX. This sport is still too small for worldwide campaigns. It will be rider-trading. Roczen stays at DeCoster's for SX, and in trade maybe Stroupe gets a shot at the GPs for Teka Suzuki.
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Will be very interesting.. its a good move. I wonder if a SX/GP team could happen... maybe KTM could do this.

This will definitely help them to keep hold of their riders and I would say its a matter of time until 1 or 2 US based riders join the GP series. I would be suprised if any top 5 riders switched though.
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Will be very interesting.. its a good move. I wonder if a SX/GP team could happen... maybe KTM could do this. This will definitely help them...
Will be very interesting.. its a good move. I wonder if a SX/GP team could happen... maybe KTM could do this.

This will definitely help them to keep hold of their riders and I would say its a matter of time until 1 or 2 US based riders join the GP series. I would be suprised if any top 5 riders switched though.
Cool shit for sure. The FIM seems to be a step ahead on this and is offering a very interesting scenario. Very very exciting project. I'm sure it got many heads thinking and with Monster involved it only tells me that we'll see some top guys here taking a few international flights next year.
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....Australia (the 2011 MXGP opener) happens on May 15th next year, how can you possibly not expect Reed entering his home GP with Monster being title sponsor of his own SX series over there and being title sponsor of the team he's racing for here? I'd bet Reed will go SX only again here if the money gets him to.
6/27/2010 12:41am
Weege may be calling Guiseppe the "Crafty Italian" soon...
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That sounds really great.
The prospect of GP-Riders having the opportunity the race the US SX is very interesting.
I also think this might stop some top GP-Guys from going fulltime AMA SX and MX.

As for Roczen am very anxious, because here in Germany SX is not very big. Its more like Arenacross. It will be interesting to see how his SX-Skills will be compared to the regular AMA-SX-Guys.
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Weege may be calling Guiseppe the "Crafty Italian" soon...
Just spoke with Herlings he is interested in doing the same thing as Roczen. Now imagine what this also does to the value of the USGP. These kids will be known in USA come September.

Great news for the sport in Europe.
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6/27/2010 4:06am
This is great news for everyone but without trying to sound like a pessimist, i hope they make it through the SX's in one piece. AMA SX seems to have a high attrition rate for GP riders.
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6/27/2010 4:11am Edited Date/Time 6/27/2010 4:15am
Whitey wrote:
This is great news for everyone but without trying to sound like a pessimist, i hope they make it through the SX's in one piece. AMA...
This is great news for everyone but without trying to sound like a pessimist, i hope they make it through the SX's in one piece. AMA SX seems to have a high attrition rate for GP riders.
SX has a high attrition rate for Motocross riders full stop. The injury list this season was unreal.
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I think it sucks! they will get injured and again will sx have ruined another rider
6/27/2010 4:41am Edited Date/Time 6/27/2010 4:42am
Weege may be calling Guiseppe the "Crafty Italian" soon...
mxgeoff wrote:
Just spoke with Herlings he is interested in doing the same thing as Roczen. Now imagine what this also does to the value of the USGP...
Just spoke with Herlings he is interested in doing the same thing as Roczen. Now imagine what this also does to the value of the USGP. These kids will be known in USA come September.

Great news for the sport in Europe.
Did they drop the +18 rule then?

If so between Roczen, Herlings and Musquin, SX will gain some great riders for next year, and if the 2nd USGP is within driving distance, next year i will go to it,
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Luongo might rethink this idea of GP's following SX after a few of his stars get injured racing AMA SX and miss all or part of his GP's
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Not going to happen they will stay here to ride nationals. If they don't they will get less sponsors and the American fans that they come to ride for will hate them. We already have a major problem with American riders who only ride SX, so just think what we will do to a Euro who comes over rides the series and leaves. lol I like CP, but if he came and won SX and didn't ride the nationals I wouldn't like him as well. CP also wouldn't have a PC ride if he only did SX.
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This could be new trend.. Osborne is doing the same thing...The two biggest series in the world are the Supercross and GP MX series this way the guys can race both.. Roczen v Musquin in Supercross... cool... !
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6/27/2010 5:52am Edited Date/Time 6/27/2010 5:54am
Overdrive wrote:
Not going to happen they will stay here to ride nationals. If they don't they will get less sponsors and the American fans that they come...
Not going to happen they will stay here to ride nationals. If they don't they will get less sponsors and the American fans that they come to ride for will hate them. We already have a major problem with American riders who only ride SX, so just think what we will do to a Euro who comes over rides the series and leaves. lol I like CP, but if he came and won SX and didn't ride the nationals I wouldn't like him as well. CP also wouldn't have a PC ride if he only did SX.
I disagree

I think people will be more accepting of a rider racing SX and then going to race GP's than a rider who races SX and then rides a couch for 6 months.



As for PC, if one of the Kawasaki teams in Europe have a rider who can win or compete in SX, Mitch will hire them. Mitch wants to win.



But keep in mind, this can create a few contractual conflict issues between various products.

How confusing would it be to the public if Rider X is using Pro-Taper in the US and Renthal in the GP's, and each company is running advertising of Racer X using their product?
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Not going to happen they will stay here to ride nationals. If they don't they will get less sponsors and the American fans that they come...
Not going to happen they will stay here to ride nationals. If they don't they will get less sponsors and the American fans that they come to ride for will hate them. We already have a major problem with American riders who only ride SX, so just think what we will do to a Euro who comes over rides the series and leaves. lol I like CP, but if he came and won SX and didn't ride the nationals I wouldn't like him as well. CP also wouldn't have a PC ride if he only did SX.
Let's face it, the euro riders coming to US dream about SX, the dont' give a s..t about the nationals
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so at least the GP riders will have the opportunity to make some money at the beginning of the year Smile

I hope they don't get hurt in SX (or SX training) and bum out their chances to win a World title.
They'll be doing Lites SX like many others (French mostly) have done before them; probably West Coast in order to have more time to prepare for the GPs.
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Weege may be calling Guiseppe the "Crafty Italian" soon...
mxgeoff wrote:
Just spoke with Herlings he is interested in doing the same thing as Roczen. Now imagine what this also does to the value of the USGP...
Just spoke with Herlings he is interested in doing the same thing as Roczen. Now imagine what this also does to the value of the USGP. These kids will be known in USA come September.

Great news for the sport in Europe.
great idea, but what happens when they get a high paying contract here to just to race AMA SX and AMA MX? im sure it will happen as soon as they put in some result over here and then they will forget the GP's such as Reed, Pourcel, and the rest that came over here have.
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Overdrive wrote:
Not going to happen they will stay here to ride nationals. If they don't they will get less sponsors and the American fans that they come...
Not going to happen they will stay here to ride nationals. If they don't they will get less sponsors and the American fans that they come to ride for will hate them. We already have a major problem with American riders who only ride SX, so just think what we will do to a Euro who comes over rides the series and leaves. lol I like CP, but if he came and won SX and didn't ride the nationals I wouldn't like him as well. CP also wouldn't have a PC ride if he only did SX.
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Let's face it, the euro riders coming to US dream about SX, the dont' give a s..t about the nationals
really? i thought tommy searle and tyla rattray came to contest in the motocross nationals? both skip'd sx to prepare for the nationals when they first came over and still havent raced any sx (except for the 2 rounds tommy did before getting injured).
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Overdrive wrote:
Not going to happen they will stay here to ride nationals. If they don't they will get less sponsors and the American fans that they come...
Not going to happen they will stay here to ride nationals. If they don't they will get less sponsors and the American fans that they come to ride for will hate them. We already have a major problem with American riders who only ride SX, so just think what we will do to a Euro who comes over rides the series and leaves. lol I like CP, but if he came and won SX and didn't ride the nationals I wouldn't like him as well. CP also wouldn't have a PC ride if he only did SX.
flarider wrote:
I disagree I think people will be more accepting of a rider racing SX and then going to race GP's than a rider who races SX...
I disagree

I think people will be more accepting of a rider racing SX and then going to race GP's than a rider who races SX and then rides a couch for 6 months.



As for PC, if one of the Kawasaki teams in Europe have a rider who can win or compete in SX, Mitch will hire them. Mitch wants to win.



But keep in mind, this can create a few contractual conflict issues between various products.

How confusing would it be to the public if Rider X is using Pro-Taper in the US and Renthal in the GP's, and each company is running advertising of Racer X using their product?
Just a couple of points, I think your giving most people to much credit saying they will be accepting, I think it might be better to say they would be oblivious to the fact that they are only riding the SX series. But the hardcore would know and I think they would not support them.
I also understand your point about Mitch wanting to win, but with so many fast up and coming riders why would he choose to spend his time with a person who will only benefit him half the year. As opposed to spending his time and money with a guy who will win both Sx and MX. It does take a lot of time and money getting rider up and running only to have him leave. I think he always has the pick of the lot and will stick with people who are here for the long term. Just my opin.
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Overdrive wrote:
Not going to happen they will stay here to ride nationals. If they don't they will get less sponsors and the American fans that they come...
Not going to happen they will stay here to ride nationals. If they don't they will get less sponsors and the American fans that they come to ride for will hate them. We already have a major problem with American riders who only ride SX, so just think what we will do to a Euro who comes over rides the series and leaves. lol I like CP, but if he came and won SX and didn't ride the nationals I wouldn't like him as well. CP also wouldn't have a PC ride if he only did SX.
flarider wrote:
I disagree I think people will be more accepting of a rider racing SX and then going to race GP's than a rider who races SX...
I disagree

I think people will be more accepting of a rider racing SX and then going to race GP's than a rider who races SX and then rides a couch for 6 months.



As for PC, if one of the Kawasaki teams in Europe have a rider who can win or compete in SX, Mitch will hire them. Mitch wants to win.



But keep in mind, this can create a few contractual conflict issues between various products.

How confusing would it be to the public if Rider X is using Pro-Taper in the US and Renthal in the GP's, and each company is running advertising of Racer X using their product?
Overdrive wrote:
Just a couple of points, I think your giving most people to much credit saying they will be accepting, I think it might be better to...
Just a couple of points, I think your giving most people to much credit saying they will be accepting, I think it might be better to say they would be oblivious to the fact that they are only riding the SX series. But the hardcore would know and I think they would not support them.
I also understand your point about Mitch wanting to win, but with so many fast up and coming riders why would he choose to spend his time with a person who will only benefit him half the year. As opposed to spending his time and money with a guy who will win both Sx and MX. It does take a lot of time and money getting rider up and running only to have him leave. I think he always has the pick of the lot and will stick with people who are here for the long term. Just my opin.
I also understand your point about Mitch wanting to win, but with so many fast up and coming riders why would he choose to spend his time with a person who will only benefit him half the year. As opposed to spending his time and money with a guy who will win both Sx and MX. It does take a lot of time and money getting rider up and running only to have him leave.

because the very same rider will be riding for Mitch's PC Team in Europe.....

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