Will 2025 be the most beastly Tomac that we have ever seen?

10/24/2024 1:01pm
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For how long will the Tomac fans move the time line to suit their hopes?. Last fall we heard that Jett would meet beast mode Eli during...

For how long will the Tomac fans move the time line to suit their hopes?. 

Last fall we heard that Jett would meet beast mode Eli during SX, then Jett blew Elis doors off at SX. When they came back at SMX Jett hunted Eli down, passed him and gapped him when Eli had the lead. And at MXdN Jett caught, passed and gapped Eli with a large margin.

And now it’s the 25sx season that Eli will challenge Jett?. I have seen enough to make up my mind that Eli won’t have anything for Jett in terms of speed over a season and the only way Eli becomes a title contender is if Jett gets hurt, not by Eli’s own speed.


And to Snillum, does Eli strike you as a rider that don’t train as hard as he can? It’s not like he has trained at a 70% rate through out of his pro years and now all of a sudden he will turn it up to 100%. Eli is like RC when it comes to training and leave nothing at the table, and i guess that is a frustrating spot to be in for Eli now realizing that his current 100% is not enough any more.

Who TF in this thread are you actually talking to?

 Because not ONE person said Tomac is GOING TO WIN in 2025. Everyone, including myself who's a huge Tomac fan, pretty much said it's Jetts world.

Tomac is a legend, period. That doesn't mean Jett isn't the better rider and racer right now, so go yell at clouds somewhere else. 

 

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10/24/2024 1:02pm
ATKpilot99 wrote:

Calm down . Jett is the best .  Feel better ? 

Buster Douglas did knock out Mike Tyson.  That’s almost the situation at this point for Eli to beat Jett (enough for the championship win).  Just one heads up ass kicking from Eli is all I’m asking for this season.  One last exclamation point from one the greatest riders ever.  I wish Eli the very best and thank him for all the great memories.  

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10/24/2024 1:04pm

I bet he was pissed because he did everything he could and battled with the best in the world with 3 races under his belt. But came up short because the guy that was a "better choice" couldn't pass two people and maintain position in his motos. 

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10/24/2024 1:09pm

For 2025, I have Jett as favourite indoors and outdoors, and I have Eli as second favourite both indoors and outdoors. 

If those two stay healthy, Chase will be 3rd in both series. 

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10/24/2024 1:13pm
TeamGreen wrote:

I expect to see the smartest Eli we’ve ever seen. 

He showed amazing speed and “long game” smarts at MXON. I really, really enjoyed that. 

And possibly the most consistent Eli we’ve seen.  I don’t think the “beast mode” Eli is a thing anymore.  But he’s still really fast and will be there to capitalize on others mistakes.

10/24/2024 1:13pm
Been a Tomac fan since he shocked the moto world at Hangtown his rookie year. I am also a big Jett fan, and I believe he’s...

Been a Tomac fan since he shocked the moto world at Hangtown his rookie year. I am also a big Jett fan, and I believe he’s simply riding at a different level than everyone else.

That said, the way Eli looked on the MXoN podium, and the way he talked on Pulp afterwards impressed the hell outta me. He wants more. And at his level, it’s all about the will to win.

Some of y’all forgot how he handled Chase Sexton’s speed and strength in 2022.  Tomac wasn’t always fastest qualifier, but he was fast enough to be there when Chase choked. I think Tomac will be a serious contender in ‘25.

He wasn't just capitalizing on Chase's mistakes, he beat him straight up on pace multiple times that season. Problem is, Jett is faster than Chase. I think Chase will make enough mistakes as per usual to let Tomac get second though. I hope I'm wrong. I'd love a title challenge from Eli

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10/24/2024 2:22pm

I certainly think Eli is making quite an impressive effort at age 32 and after his injuries. I really didn't think I'd get to see him race again after I watched him pull off in Denver. As a fan, couldn't be more proud at the level he's come back to. 

Whether or not he gets to those previous heights of beast mode again, I admire the fact he's putting in the work and not content to get 2nd. Dude's got that dawg in him, and you can tell. I have some hope he can be the baddest dude out there some days. Barring injuries, I agree with the others it's gonna be hard to best Jett week in, week out.. but who knows, Eli has surprised me before 🤷‍♂️

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10/24/2024 2:30pm
Who TF in this thread are you actually talking to? Because not ONE person said Tomac is GOING TO WIN in 2025. Everyone, including myself who's a...

Who TF in this thread are you actually talking to?

 Because not ONE person said Tomac is GOING TO WIN in 2025. Everyone, including myself who's a huge Tomac fan, pretty much said it's Jetts world.

Tomac is a legend, period. That doesn't mean Jett isn't the better rider and racer right now, so go yell at clouds somewhere else. 

 

Talk about yelling…

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10/24/2024 3:00pm

He’s gonna hold back till Daytona wreck em and call it…

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10/24/2024 3:02pm
TeamGreen wrote:

I expect to see the smartest Eli we’ve ever seen. 

He showed amazing speed and “long game” smarts at MXON. I really, really enjoyed that. 

Press516 wrote:
And possibly the most consistent Eli we’ve seen.  I don’t think the “beast mode” Eli is a thing anymore.  But he’s still really fast and will...

And possibly the most consistent Eli we’ve seen.  I don’t think the “beast mode” Eli is a thing anymore.  But he’s still really fast and will be there to capitalize on others mistakes.

Tards around here, and elsewhere, use Beast Mode incorrectly all the time.  Eli's not going Beast Mode when he's just going fast and winning.  That used to be his general state pretty much all the time (excepting his weirdo rides).  Beast Mode referred to the crazy times late in motos (especially outdoors) when he would start going multiple seconds faster than anyone else, come from behind, and absolutely annihilate the competition. That's Beast Mode - and it was a beauty to behold. 

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10/24/2024 3:09pm
TeamGreen wrote:

I expect to see the smartest Eli we’ve ever seen. 

He showed amazing speed and “long game” smarts at MXON. I really, really enjoyed that. 

Press516 wrote:
And possibly the most consistent Eli we’ve seen.  I don’t think the “beast mode” Eli is a thing anymore.  But he’s still really fast and will...

And possibly the most consistent Eli we’ve seen.  I don’t think the “beast mode” Eli is a thing anymore.  But he’s still really fast and will be there to capitalize on others mistakes.

I think he engaged beast mode in that last Moto at MXoN. 

He can still do it, but the competition is stronger now than it was 5 years ago. 

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10/24/2024 3:14pm
TeamGreen wrote:

I expect to see the smartest Eli we’ve ever seen. 

He showed amazing speed and “long game” smarts at MXON. I really, really enjoyed that. 

Press516 wrote:
And possibly the most consistent Eli we’ve seen.  I don’t think the “beast mode” Eli is a thing anymore.  But he’s still really fast and will...

And possibly the most consistent Eli we’ve seen.  I don’t think the “beast mode” Eli is a thing anymore.  But he’s still really fast and will be there to capitalize on others mistakes.

I think he engaged beast mode in that last Moto at MXoN. He can still do it, but the competition is stronger now than it was 5...

I think he engaged beast mode in that last Moto at MXoN. 

He can still do it, but the competition is stronger now than it was 5 years ago. 

That was most definitely not Beast Mode. He got out to a handy lead then got passed and dropped by Jett and Gaiser. 

 

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10/24/2024 3:27pm
I think he engaged beast mode in that last Moto at MXoN. He can still do it, but the competition is stronger now than it was 5...

I think he engaged beast mode in that last Moto at MXoN. 

He can still do it, but the competition is stronger now than it was 5 years ago. 

Hangtown 2015 he won by 85 seconds.  The bar was raised for the rest of his career.  The smart thing would have been to back off and win by 10 seconds (this is what Jett does).  I think Eli is just as good as he has ever been in his career but as you pointed out, everyone else is faster.  This is racing and the bar is always getting higher.  Go back in a time machine and have 32 year old Eli race 10 years ago and he would run the table.      

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10/24/2024 3:45pm
Tumic wrote:
For how long will the Tomac fans move the time line to suit their hopes?. Last fall we heard that Jett would meet beast mode Eli during...

For how long will the Tomac fans move the time line to suit their hopes?. 

Last fall we heard that Jett would meet beast mode Eli during SX, then Jett blew Elis doors off at SX. When they came back at SMX Jett hunted Eli down, passed him and gapped him when Eli had the lead. And at MXdN Jett caught, passed and gapped Eli with a large margin.

And now it’s the 25sx season that Eli will challenge Jett?. I have seen enough to make up my mind that Eli won’t have anything for Jett in terms of speed over a season and the only way Eli becomes a title contender is if Jett gets hurt, not by Eli’s own speed.


And to Snillum, does Eli strike you as a rider that don’t train as hard as he can? It’s not like he has trained at a 70% rate through out of his pro years and now all of a sudden he will turn it up to 100%. Eli is like RC when it comes to training and leave nothing at the table, and i guess that is a frustrating spot to be in for Eli now realizing that his current 100% is not enough any more.

Who TF in this thread are you actually talking to? Because not ONE person said Tomac is GOING TO WIN in 2025. Everyone, including myself who's a...

Who TF in this thread are you actually talking to?

 Because not ONE person said Tomac is GOING TO WIN in 2025. Everyone, including myself who's a huge Tomac fan, pretty much said it's Jetts world.

Tomac is a legend, period. That doesn't mean Jett isn't the better rider and racer right now, so go yell at clouds somewhere else. 

 

A couple people picked him for the title. Owenjakes for one.  I think there was another. 

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10/24/2024 3:47pm
Tumic wrote:
For how long will the Tomac fans move the time line to suit their hopes?. Last fall we heard that Jett would meet beast mode Eli during...

For how long will the Tomac fans move the time line to suit their hopes?. 

Last fall we heard that Jett would meet beast mode Eli during SX, then Jett blew Elis doors off at SX. When they came back at SMX Jett hunted Eli down, passed him and gapped him when Eli had the lead. And at MXdN Jett caught, passed and gapped Eli with a large margin.

And now it’s the 25sx season that Eli will challenge Jett?. I have seen enough to make up my mind that Eli won’t have anything for Jett in terms of speed over a season and the only way Eli becomes a title contender is if Jett gets hurt, not by Eli’s own speed.


And to Snillum, does Eli strike you as a rider that don’t train as hard as he can? It’s not like he has trained at a 70% rate through out of his pro years and now all of a sudden he will turn it up to 100%. Eli is like RC when it comes to training and leave nothing at the table, and i guess that is a frustrating spot to be in for Eli now realizing that his current 100% is not enough any more.

Who TF in this thread are you actually talking to? Because not ONE person said Tomac is GOING TO WIN in 2025. Everyone, including myself who's a...

Who TF in this thread are you actually talking to?

 Because not ONE person said Tomac is GOING TO WIN in 2025. Everyone, including myself who's a huge Tomac fan, pretty much said it's Jetts world.

Tomac is a legend, period. That doesn't mean Jett isn't the better rider and racer right now, so go yell at clouds somewhere else. 

 

soggy wrote:

A couple people picked him for the title. Owenjakes for one.  I think there was another. 

Hey, stop bringing reason into this, I was pissed and yelled at the guy yelling. That's how it's supposed to work, right?

I'm just bitter because my guy probably isn't winning a title in 25 because the kid is just too dang good. 

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10/24/2024 3:50pm
Who TF in this thread are you actually talking to? Because not ONE person said Tomac is GOING TO WIN in 2025. Everyone, including myself who's a...

Who TF in this thread are you actually talking to?

 Because not ONE person said Tomac is GOING TO WIN in 2025. Everyone, including myself who's a huge Tomac fan, pretty much said it's Jetts world.

Tomac is a legend, period. That doesn't mean Jett isn't the better rider and racer right now, so go yell at clouds somewhere else. 

 

soggy wrote:

A couple people picked him for the title. Owenjakes for one.  I think there was another. 

Hey, stop bringing reason into this, I was pissed and yelled at the guy yelling. That's how it's supposed to work, right?I'm just bitter because my...

Hey, stop bringing reason into this, I was pissed and yelled at the guy yelling. That's how it's supposed to work, right?

I'm just bitter because my guy probably isn't winning a title in 25 because the kid is just too dang good. 

God damn people get way to emotional about this shit. It’s just racing dirt bikes. 

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10/24/2024 3:54pm
soggy wrote:

A couple people picked him for the title. Owenjakes for one.  I think there was another. 

Hey, stop bringing reason into this, I was pissed and yelled at the guy yelling. That's how it's supposed to work, right?I'm just bitter because my...

Hey, stop bringing reason into this, I was pissed and yelled at the guy yelling. That's how it's supposed to work, right?

I'm just bitter because my guy probably isn't winning a title in 25 because the kid is just too dang good. 

soggy wrote:

God damn people get way to emotional about this shit. It’s just racing dirt bikes. 

💯💯

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10/24/2024 4:04pm

Rational thought would say no, but you never know what might happen.  Chad was 29/30 when he gave Stewart and the Ryan’s everything they could handle in 2011 and 2012, and only missed a title by a bees dick.

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10/24/2024 4:09pm

He’s trying to get as many gate drops as he can before the new season, seems like he doesn’t want to sit around testing and riding with teammates waiting for A1 so I’d say yes. 

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Hey, stop bringing reason into this, I was pissed and yelled at the guy yelling. That's how it's supposed to work, right?I'm just bitter because my...

Hey, stop bringing reason into this, I was pissed and yelled at the guy yelling. That's how it's supposed to work, right?

I'm just bitter because my guy probably isn't winning a title in 25 because the kid is just too dang good. 

soggy wrote:

God damn people get way to emotional about this shit. It’s just racing dirt bikes. 

💯💯

Well if this isn’t irony I dunno what is. 

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10/24/2024 4:27pm
soggy wrote:

God damn people get way to emotional about this shit. It’s just racing dirt bikes. 

💯💯

soggy wrote:

Well if this isn’t irony I dunno what is. 

Or.....you missed the sarcasm in my original response to you, which admitted I was also being a cloud yeller?

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10/24/2024 4:31pm

Or.....you missed the sarcasm in my original response to you, which admitted I was also being a cloud yeller?

Well you admitted to being emotional to the first guy and not using reason or even reading the thread. So your subsequent sarcasm wasn’t really relevant. 

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10/24/2024 4:38pm

Or.....you missed the sarcasm in my original response to you, which admitted I was also being a cloud yeller?

soggy wrote:

Well you admitted to being emotional to the first guy and not using reason or even reading the thread. So your subsequent sarcasm wasn’t really relevant. 

And you trying to be the moderator and an asshat makes your self-righteousness relevant? At least I admitted to reacting like a douche. 

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10/24/2024 4:58pm

We'll see one of the most impressive, fastest 32yr old riders the sport has ever seen. Who won't be able to beat the fastest SX rider on the planet who's in his physical peak and will be a year wiser off his SX championships rookie season

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And you trying to be the moderator and an asshat makes your self-righteousness relevant? At least I admitted to reacting like a douche. 

Fair play, that was kind of douchey from me. Just the amount of grown men that react so emotionally when something is said about there favorite rider in here is mind boggling. 

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10/24/2024 5:27pm

Remember when he traded motos with Jett at Charlotte and he’s literally a decade older with one foot in the nursing home.

 

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10/24/2024 5:28pm

And you trying to be the moderator and an asshat makes your self-righteousness relevant? At least I admitted to reacting like a douche. 

soggy wrote:
Fair play, that was kind of douchey from me. Just the amount of grown men that react so emotionally when something is said about there favorite...

Fair play, that was kind of douchey from me. Just the amount of grown men that react so emotionally when something is said about there favorite rider in here is mind boggling. 

Oh I agree totally, that's why I was like ah crap I did it too!

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10/24/2024 5:33pm Edited Date/Time 10/24/2024 5:34pm

Don’t know if he will top his previous speed but I do think he will be more prepared and faster  than last year coming off his injury, Hope we see some good battles and the points come down to the final race. 

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