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Steve has called him that for a while. As long as I can remember.
It has been many years now that Alex, Phil, and others have called him that.
JERMA is a shorthand sort of nickname-JERemy MArtin.
What happened with his split with Club? Every rider that leaves it seems like there’s a problem and the owner isnt happy with them and takes it personal. JMart was hurt most the time so I’m not sure what to expect out of him besides being mad with yourself that he turned out to be a bad investment.
Copy. I’ve listened to pulp since 2013 and this is the first I’ve caught it.
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As for the name, I've seen his mother refer to him as that, so maybe it's something that ppl close to him have called him, but who knows.
It was a great interview and it was nice to get an update on him. I did not know about the split with Club. I always assumed that if he came back, it would be with them. So that is unfortunate. I kind of agree with what @ohh_454 said though. It does seem like an odd amount of riders leaving there on bad terms. Obviously I don't know the story but I can understand them being upset that their investment did play out like they probably thought it would. But that being said, JMart has had a rough go and he even said that in his 2nd run with Star he never got a chance to get on track, with the injuries etc. Then that just continued into his time on Club. It's not his fault, obviously he would want to be out there racing, if he could.
Filthy Phil is the one that I noticed called him that for quite awhile.
The common denominator here is Jeremy, his crashes and injuries are very unfortunate but he's the one making the mistakes to cause them. What happened with kenny's shock was a fluke, I don't see flukes being the case with jmart sadly.
I was thinking the same. I thought he said before he wanted to get these guys to a level to get picked up from the big teams again. Last interview from what I gathered he wasn't happy about Garrett going back to pc. I mean can you really be mad a guy is going to a better team to make more money and possibly advance his career? Would he do the same if he was in Garretts shoes?
That's fair. I'm not really making excuses for him. I just think it is weird that him and the team would part ways on bad terms.
Two national titles and some sx wins, a great career all around.
I enjoy the club youtube video's, they seem to work hard building a program.... still, two guys leaving on a sour note is odd.
You gathered wrong.
Brandon was happy for Garrett getting the PC ride and he does want to help riders get paid gigs.
It turned south when Garrett came back from his injury.
As for Jerma, it sounded like he had some expectation of moving into a different role on the team (bike development) and for whatever reason, that wasn’t in the cards and he got butthurt.
Lopes weaseled out of his contract and jumped ship last minute. Understandable for him. Also understandable Brandon not being stoked.
This narrative about Club is getting old. Classic human brain locking in on the negative.
A Mart left on good terms. Phil left on good terms. Schock signed up for 3 years, when his stock was rising fast.
Brandon wants guys that see the vision and want to be there. It’s that simple.
Good to at least hear a perspective from the other side. I don't want to instantly blame the team. I did think the split with JMart was odd. But obviously 2 sides to every story. Either way, I support Club and want to see them do well. And JMart is 1 of my favorite riders so I always want the best for him. And I know that his family are good people, so I naturally tend to take his side, but it's still nice to hear a tidbit about the situation from another point of view.
I’m a fan of the Martins and of Club (former midwest guy).
My POV is simply from what I’ve heard publicly from of the riders and Brandon. A LOT is unknown.
What I do know is listening comprehension is not a strong skill for most Vitards. Almost every time I read something here and then go check out the relevant interview, there are some clear differences.
Could be right, but Brandon's story always seems different and that's three riders in a year singing a different tune. On Pulp this week, Brandon's version was very different than JMarts in the same show. I have no idea which one is accurate, but definitely some differences.
Enzo seemed to pull a douche move and that's not even close to cool.
Of course. There are two sides and the truth is in the middle.
Brandon doesn’t exactly air all the dirty laundry so details are unknown, which is fine.
He has been quite open and honest every time he is interviewed and he runs the team the same way.
Garrett’s side was “ugh I don’t know 🤷🏽♂️”, for whatever that is worth.
For as long as I can remember.
I appreciate your insights in your defence of Club. You are obviously somewhat close to the team. Hear say at least.
But I did have to laugh when I heard ‘Jerma’ was going to be on Pulp and thought to myself I wonder which way that relationship ended. And as per usual, there is the same ol story.
In saying that, I root for that team, and the owner seems so passionate and has so many of the right pieces in place. There just has to be something, or someone that has to change to make it click over there. Let’s hope Max Is finally the breakthrough and happy ending we are waiting for.
J Mart seems like a good guy but he needs to work on his technique if he doesnt want to crash his brains out.
You can only ride in a ball like little Ricky so much. Things have moved on from Jeanies teachings
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I was surprised to hear it ended. Figured J Mart was either gonna retire or finish at Club.
To me, the thing that has been and will continue to change is outside perception from riders. Club is building towards being the next Star, as far as taking a private team to the factory level. They have solid partners, the bikes are close, and all else being equal, the facility gives an advantage over teams like PC.
So once they get the right guys in who see the big picture, guys who don't see it as a rebuilding opportunity or a stepping stone to a factory team, they will be cooking with gas. I'd argue they are on the brink of that. Add in that they are developing riders on site, both amateur and pro, guys who want to be there to the point of paying, and this could be a very different convo in a year or two.
I can see Max assisting with changing that perception in a big way. I think going 250 only will help as well, since they can give all their energy to one class/bike.
Brandon is taking a reality that he sees in his head and bringing it into 3D, one step at time. Passion, authenticity, and accountability will take anyone with a vision as far as they want to go. Only a matter of "left foot, right foot" and enjoying the process.
Listened to both those interviews on pulp and it really never was said what actually happened. Brandon seemed to think JMart was just done and retiring and now Jmart still wants to ride for someone if the opportunity is right. Sorta feel like it boils down to the two just don’t get along. I do think some of these problems stem from the fact club is getting to that point they’re no longer ok with losing their guys to factory teams. They now want to be that and are looking for loyalty not a stepping stone. Brandon said as much. Love what club is about and wish both sides the best either way.
At least a decade..
I don’t see other teams owners going on Pulp to explain what’s happening with riders. If Vohland killed it next year and got a Honda HRC ride I can see the ClubMx owner being pissed that Vohland didn’t stay and going on pulp to explain why. I root for them, it just seems that guys leave on weird circumstances.
Jerma is just short for Jeremy
What riders have Club developed, pro or am? Seems strange all these parents feel they need to send their kids to their facilities but rarely see their graphics on the podium of the major races. And as far as pro, the only ones making any noise at DC ones that couldn’t quite make it on a factory team. Glad they are out there giving jobs but don’t see it as a place people “want” to go
Do they want riders that want to be there?
There is a long list of guys that’s have gotten better when they went there to train.
The race team also has a long list of guys who have found success.
It takes time to develop a kid and it takes time to develop a race team.
The trajectory seems obvious to me.
If a parent sent Jr to Club today, there is a pipeline laid to go pro and get on the box. That wasn’t true 10 years ago.
As for being a place people want to go, that’s straight up what I said had to and is changing for things to really click.
Genuinely curious, who? Both Martins, Marchbanks, Phil successful prior and no where else to go. Cody was also good, didn’t have options. Can possibly argue Lopes progressed there but could also say he was no better/worse but wouldn’t argue if said he improved. Cade trained there and had one year in SX where he was making mains but he’s seemed to have regressed. Who are their stand out amateurs they are grooming? What are their results at LL, championships?
It was my understanding that there was a "misunderstanding" with both Garrett and JMart on how the team paid them while they were out injured.
Basically, from what I understood, neither of them got paid for certain time periods while sitting out, and they were pissed.
Safe to say that the 'ole MX team contracts are not always as strong as people think, especially with the smaller teams, like Club and the old BBMX, etc.
That’s why I was thinking the owner should be more mad at himself that JMart didn’t have pan out the way they expected, he ended up being a bad investment. I doubt being injured and NOT getting any kind of income would be in a contract a former champ like JMart would sign.
What does not having a ride have to do with anything? All of those guys are on my list of riders Club has helped improve.
Freddie is making 450 mains consistently. Brayton seemed to find another level. The SX program seems to grow every year.
I don’t have top of mind knowledge of the history of their am kids but Avery Long seems like he’s got a bright future.
It’s important to recognize the race team and the facility are separate entities with their own timelines. Timelines that appear to be merging.
It’s also important to note that there is a cap on number of full time amateur riders. There are likely families/kids there who aren’t aiming for professional podiums taking up spots. A lifestyle choice of sorts, which aligns with what I think Brandon is building.
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