DeCoster on Sexton, Tomac, and our choices for Team USA now...

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9/22/2024 10:06am Edited Date/Time 9/22/2024 10:06am

They could not do an x-ray on Chase's hand last night or this morning?

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9/22/2024 10:19am
dhp_mma94 wrote:

wht would be the absolute deadline to ship everything overseas 🤔  logistics wise I kno this shit could be a pain in the ass 

FastEddy wrote:
No telling. Customs is always a gamble in all countries regards to hold ups....  Anyone remember the year when the Italians put the wine and  cheese...

No telling. Customs is always a gamble in all countries regards to hold ups....  Anyone remember the year when the Italians put the wine and  cheese in their bike crates and they got held up until the last minute?  

Yup I was there in the pits when the truck with the crates came in with a police escort and somehow they had  a bike in practice  not long after. I wanna say it was under a half hour from when the crates went by until I saw  Antonio Cairoli out on the track.  He had a rough weekend . And the battle everybody was expecting with RV never happened.   

The Irish team had brough race gas over in paint cans. After the race they poured the leftovers into my generator and said it should give me a few extra watts. They also left a full gallon  of it.  I had never smelt anything like it before then. I think it was Elf race fuel. 

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9/22/2024 10:27am

Someone tell JS7 to strap up some boots and get back to practicing. Naw, I’m Jk. That would be super sick though 

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9/22/2024 10:48am

Man talk about crunch time. Lots of balls in the air needing last minute critical decisions on. Starting with full and thorough evaluation of Chases health. That could takes days under ordinary circumstances.

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9/22/2024 10:56am

Hopefully air freight gets  though customs quicker than shipping. Anyone who has gone to 6 days knows there’s a 50% chance the US container arrives on time and it leaves 3 months before the race. 

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9/22/2024 11:02am
ML512 wrote:
I asked Jeremy Coker last night and he stated that Webb's bikes haven't left yet. Even though air freight only takes one day of travel, the...

I asked Jeremy Coker last night and he stated that Webb's bikes haven't left yet. Even though air freight only takes one day of travel, the time in customs seem to have some I spoke to a bit nervous. They need to decide by Monday afternoon if we're still competing so bikes can be shipped.

Webb's bikes will need to be air freighted.

If Tomac says yes, they need to build two bikes on Sunday/Monday and probably have them air freighted by Tuesday.

I'm more off a read only member here on the forum but on this one i would like to know why do they need to build/ship those bikes to europe in the first place ?

since they are all on factory teams in the US why dont they just use some bikes from the MXGP teams ? Would bring the costs down and no stress with all the shipping, customs sh*t .... Just send the mechanis a few days earlier to europe with some key parts like suspensions, etc... so they can build the bikes here in Europe ....

I hope Sexton can still make it and otherwise i hope Tomac steps up to replace so team USA is represented, i'm going to the MXON for the first time in over 5 years again so hope to see some USA based riders over there, its what makes this event so special for me the battle between MXGP/AMA riders so the more represent the better.

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9/22/2024 11:04am
Crutcher wrote:
Zach Osborne is in shape and ready and will ride anything. Last time at Matterly I seem to remember an Italian off-road racer cracking the top three...

Zach Osborne is in shape and ready and will ride anything. 

Last time at Matterly I seem to remember an Italian off-road racer cracking the top three in a moto. 

Nah man, this is not the answer. Vet MXoN maybe, still wouldn’t be my 1st choice. 

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9/22/2024 2:17pm
OFalk280 wrote:
You’re so blinded by Danger Boy love that you forget about the entire industry losing their minds for years when Tomac didn’t go (I believe first...

You’re so blinded by Danger Boy love that you forget about the entire industry losing their minds for years when Tomac didn’t go (I believe first declined offer was him and then following years was Kawis decision until his move to Star). Getting bent out of shape over declining the invite is most definitely not exclusive to Deegs

Night and day difference in the outrage here on vital with Tomac choosing not to race in the past. Compared to Deegan. Not even close with the anger, name calling, and people telling Deegan he can no longer be patriotic. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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9/22/2024 2:25pm Edited Date/Time 9/22/2024 2:28pm
Crossup wrote:

Never thought I would hear those words out of Roger DeCoster's mouth... "Give up". There is not ONE other person that can go?

ML512 wrote:
I asked Jeremy Coker last night and he stated that Webb's bikes haven't left yet. Even though air freight only takes one day of travel, the...

I asked Jeremy Coker last night and he stated that Webb's bikes haven't left yet. Even though air freight only takes one day of travel, the time in customs seem to have some I spoke to a bit nervous. They need to decide by Monday afternoon if we're still competing so bikes can be shipped.

Webb's bikes will need to be air freighted.

If Tomac says yes, they need to build two bikes on Sunday/Monday and probably have them air freighted by Tuesday.

I hear you Michael and I appreciate the feedback and list of riders. 

Despite having a short list of riders that are now injured, the entire process is starting way too late.  The earlier you plan, more contingencies can be made.

BTW, I would take Phil because he would scare the crap out of everybody on the line.

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9/22/2024 2:27pm
ML512 wrote:
I asked Jeremy Coker last night and he stated that Webb's bikes haven't left yet. Even though air freight only takes one day of travel, the...

I asked Jeremy Coker last night and he stated that Webb's bikes haven't left yet. Even though air freight only takes one day of travel, the time in customs seem to have some I spoke to a bit nervous. They need to decide by Monday afternoon if we're still competing so bikes can be shipped.

Webb's bikes will need to be air freighted.

If Tomac says yes, they need to build two bikes on Sunday/Monday and probably have them air freighted by Tuesday.

I'm more off a read only member here on the forum but on this one i would like to know why do they need to build/ship...

I'm more off a read only member here on the forum but on this one i would like to know why do they need to build/ship those bikes to europe in the first place ?

since they are all on factory teams in the US why dont they just use some bikes from the MXGP teams ? Would bring the costs down and no stress with all the shipping, customs sh*t .... Just send the mechanis a few days earlier to europe with some key parts like suspensions, etc... so they can build the bikes here in Europe ....

I hope Sexton can still make it and otherwise i hope Tomac steps up to replace so team USA is represented, i'm going to the MXON for the first time in over 5 years again so hope to see some USA based riders over there, its what makes this event so special for me the battle between MXGP/AMA riders so the more represent the better.

The bikes are just too different. It may seem like they’re racing the same bike; but, the differences are many and more complex than would make sense in a brief explanation. 

At this level the riders have a lot of confidence in “their” bike that’s set-up by their people and that’s what they want to race. 

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9/22/2024 2:32pm
ML512 wrote:
I asked Jeremy Coker last night and he stated that Webb's bikes haven't left yet. Even though air freight only takes one day of travel, the...

I asked Jeremy Coker last night and he stated that Webb's bikes haven't left yet. Even though air freight only takes one day of travel, the time in customs seem to have some I spoke to a bit nervous. They need to decide by Monday afternoon if we're still competing so bikes can be shipped.

Webb's bikes will need to be air freighted.

If Tomac says yes, they need to build two bikes on Sunday/Monday and probably have them air freighted by Tuesday.

I'm more off a read only member here on the forum but on this one i would like to know why do they need to build/ship...

I'm more off a read only member here on the forum but on this one i would like to know why do they need to build/ship those bikes to europe in the first place ?

since they are all on factory teams in the US why dont they just use some bikes from the MXGP teams ? Would bring the costs down and no stress with all the shipping, customs sh*t .... Just send the mechanis a few days earlier to europe with some key parts like suspensions, etc... so they can build the bikes here in Europe ....

I hope Sexton can still make it and otherwise i hope Tomac steps up to replace so team USA is represented, i'm going to the MXON for the first time in over 5 years again so hope to see some USA based riders over there, its what makes this event so special for me the battle between MXGP/AMA riders so the more represent the better.

TeamGreen wrote:
The bikes are just too different. It may seem like they’re racing the same bike; but, the differences are many and more complex than would make...

The bikes are just too different. It may seem like they’re racing the same bike; but, the differences are many and more complex than would make sense in a brief explanation. 

At this level the riders have a lot of confidence in “their” bike that’s set-up by their people and that’s what they want to race. 

Didn't Herlings wax an AMA field on a bike bought off Craiglist or something ?  Seriously though it was a borrowed bike with his suspension .  You'd think if push came to shove they could do their best to make it work . 

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9/22/2024 2:35pm
I'm more off a read only member here on the forum but on this one i would like to know why do they need to build/ship...

I'm more off a read only member here on the forum but on this one i would like to know why do they need to build/ship those bikes to europe in the first place ?

since they are all on factory teams in the US why dont they just use some bikes from the MXGP teams ? Would bring the costs down and no stress with all the shipping, customs sh*t .... Just send the mechanis a few days earlier to europe with some key parts like suspensions, etc... so they can build the bikes here in Europe ....

I hope Sexton can still make it and otherwise i hope Tomac steps up to replace so team USA is represented, i'm going to the MXON for the first time in over 5 years again so hope to see some USA based riders over there, its what makes this event so special for me the battle between MXGP/AMA riders so the more represent the better.

TeamGreen wrote:
The bikes are just too different. It may seem like they’re racing the same bike; but, the differences are many and more complex than would make...

The bikes are just too different. It may seem like they’re racing the same bike; but, the differences are many and more complex than would make sense in a brief explanation. 

At this level the riders have a lot of confidence in “their” bike that’s set-up by their people and that’s what they want to race. 

ATKpilot99 wrote:
Didn't Herlings wax an AMA field on a bike bought off Craiglist or something ?  Seriously though it was a borrowed bike with his suspension...

Didn't Herlings wax an AMA field on a bike bought off Craiglist or something ?  Seriously though it was a borrowed bike with his suspension .  You'd think if push came to shove they could do their best to make it work . 

Canards bike with JH suspension and exhaust i believe 

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9/22/2024 2:36pm
mtbkris2 wrote:

Someone tell JS7 to strap up some boots and get back to practicing. Naw, I’m Jk. That would be super sick though 

During the podcast mashup this weekend, JS7 mentioned he does still ride… Took everyone by surprise 

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9/22/2024 2:39pm
OFalk280 wrote:
You’re so blinded by Danger Boy love that you forget about the entire industry losing their minds for years when Tomac didn’t go (I believe first...

You’re so blinded by Danger Boy love that you forget about the entire industry losing their minds for years when Tomac didn’t go (I believe first declined offer was him and then following years was Kawis decision until his move to Star). Getting bent out of shape over declining the invite is most definitely not exclusive to Deegs

125Rider wrote:
Night and day difference in the outrage here on vital with Tomac choosing not to race in the past. Compared to Deegan. Not even close with...

Night and day difference in the outrage here on vital with Tomac choosing not to race in the past. Compared to Deegan. Not even close with the anger, name calling, and people telling Deegan he can no longer be patriotic. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Nah there was definitely a large amount of outrage for a couple years with Tomac saying no. Kawi took a large chunk of that blame away as well when they started announced that they wouldn't do overseas MXoNs anymore, so the outrage towards Eli himself kind of stopped since he was already counted out of the running due to his team. Its just been quite a few years since it was officially his decision to skip it so you may have forgotten the negative feelings people had behind it.

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9/22/2024 2:40pm

During the podcast mashup this weekend, JS7 mentioned he does still ride… Took everyone by surprise 

He needs to start filming him riding. I want to see him riding different bikes like Carson Brown does. 

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9/22/2024 2:44pm

Just combine Team Puerto Rico and the US Team into one….

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9/22/2024 2:48pm
Crutcher wrote:
Zach Osborne is in shape and ready and will ride anything. Last time at Matterly I seem to remember an Italian off-road racer cracking the top three...

Zach Osborne is in shape and ready and will ride anything. 

Last time at Matterly I seem to remember an Italian off-road racer cracking the top three in a moto. 

lol, how many times was he coming back only to have his back injury flare up? He’s not racing competitively again

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9/22/2024 3:08pm

Deegan on 250(ask him again, he can do east coast 2025SX).

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9/22/2024 3:11pm

If Deegan went, the mx world would lose its mind.

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9/22/2024 3:37pm

Eli, Webb, Deegs. At least start healthy.  How much is the MXGP streaming to get MXDN coverage? I’ll send it to Star Yamaha instead.

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9/22/2024 3:37pm

at least all of this wont be an issue next year....

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Plessinger looked fast yesterday, and sounds like he worked hard to get back, moving in with doc G during the week. Hopefully Eli steps up, then they have the top 3 Americans from the last smx moto. 

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9/22/2024 4:24pm
PRM31 wrote:

Eli, Webb, Deegs. At least start healthy.  How much is the MXGP streaming to get MXDN coverage? I’ll send it to Star Yamaha instead.

$29 i think

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9/22/2024 5:22pm Edited Date/Time 9/22/2024 5:22pm
decano51 wrote:

at least all of this wont be an issue next year....

Laughing 5

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9/22/2024 5:23pm

Given that Tomac came back at the end of outdoors saying he wanted to go to The Nations, I don’t see a reason why he would say no, given how he’s riding, given that he’s the only option. Vlaanderen’s bike isn’t in use, I’m sure something can be worked out, even if time is tight. 

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9/22/2024 5:24pm
RG437 wrote:
Given that Tomac came back at the end of outdoors saying he wanted to go to The Nations, I don’t see a reason why he would...

Given that Tomac came back at the end of outdoors saying he wanted to go to The Nations, I don’t see a reason why he would say no, given how he’s riding, given that he’s the only option. Vlaanderen’s bike isn’t in use, I’m sure something can be worked out, even if time is tight. 

Apparently Webb's bike hasn't been shipped yet, so they could maybe put Eli's bike in there.

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RG437 wrote:
Given that Tomac came back at the end of outdoors saying he wanted to go to The Nations, I don’t see a reason why he would...

Given that Tomac came back at the end of outdoors saying he wanted to go to The Nations, I don’t see a reason why he would say no, given how he’s riding, given that he’s the only option. Vlaanderen’s bike isn’t in use, I’m sure something can be worked out, even if time is tight. 

Apparently Webb's bike hasn't been shipped yet, so they could maybe put Eli's bike in there.

If Webb’s bike hasn’t been shipped yet they could also consider the option of moving him back to 450 and bringing more riders into the equation. 

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9/22/2024 6:12pm
Crutcher wrote:
Zach Osborne is in shape and ready and will ride anything. Last time at Matterly I seem to remember an Italian off-road racer cracking the top three...

Zach Osborne is in shape and ready and will ride anything. 

Last time at Matterly I seem to remember an Italian off-road racer cracking the top three in a moto. 

My brother was having a conversation with Zach on Instagram last week, and he said he'd love to go, but flat out admitted he just doesn't have the speed. I'm pretty sure that's why he backed out of the outdoor race he was thinking about doing this summer, too.

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9/22/2024 6:16pm
Meister wrote:

Phil.

He’d be in the way after the start but could you imagine the content we’d get out of him postponing his retirement to race MXON. It would be golden. lol 

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