Every year, American MX fans get more worked up over this one race than any other event, and it’s always about wanting to send the best possible team to ensure we win and continue to show the moto world that we’re number one. And if our team doesn’t manage to win, we mope around and complain about the riders being selfish, about the AMA mismanaging the selection process and on and on.
Folks… get a grip.
Sure, the MXdN is considered the “Olympics” of motocross and ideally it is the one race of the year that all the best racers from around the globe converge on one track to see who has the biggest balls. That’s really what it comes down to. All this “sturm und drang” dredged up on the internet is meaningless. And to be honest, even the team win is relatively meaningless. Ask the 450 racer who finished second in his class, even though his team won the overall. He still has to admit that his balls weren’t the biggest… that day.
But here’s my point: this event should be a pleasure for everyone involved. It should be seen as an end of the year get together for a bunch of badasses to do some badass racing. And if you win, great. But if you had a blast racing in a different country, against fast guys you have never raced before, in front of fans who have never seen you in person before… then the results barely matter as long as you rode your best. It’s okay not to win the MXdN, as long as you left it all on the track.
When our top guys decide they have better things to do besides race the MXdN, we shouldn’t get stupid mad about it. We have a ton of fast guys that contest the Pro Motocross series, we can just send someone else who will be genuinely stoked to go. Even if a win is unlikely. It’ll be okay. It’s dirt bike racing, y’all.
Sounds like you would like it to be more casual. Like the NBA or NFL all Star games. Just a fun vacation for the riders in a cool location.
Des Nations should not be treated like the Moto cross all-star game. That's straight up lame. Whatever riders the US ends up sending should never have that type of loser mindset.
Agree, all star game or Olympics... I choose Olympics.
It's the best race of the year, so many twists and turns and drama for a full day of epic racing. In moto 1, your 250 guy goes down in the first turn, immediately you think, that's our drop moto... Both your guys run top 10, and you are thinking you got a shot to win it all. Then moto 2 happens... And the next series of WTF's take place. And then by moto 3, the calculator keys are burning up as you're trying to figure the top 3 teams final scores all the way through the moto.
Best race of the year, send your best and leave it all on the track. That's what we want to see.
Yeah, my favorite race of the year too. Interesting to watch till the last moto.
I'm just a fan, but I'd like the riders we send to Des nations to always strive to go for the top step.
Leave the casual BS race to those goofy old vet guys that go to the Vet Des Nations.
Best race of the year for shit talk! Was always fun kicking the Brit's & Euro's hornets nest.
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Alright. For those of you on the “Do or Die” tip, then this should be a money race. Biggest single day purse of the year. You want the best out of the best professional racers? Pay ‘em. Otherwise, it’s just bragging rights, which really ain’t shit.
One additional point that people don’t talk too much about is having to modify AMA series bikes to MXGP rules. It’s not huge, but it is still a small factor. Small factors can add up. Home(series) track, other side of the world(not quite but 7ish hours…ect. Not sure if there has ever been a thought to at least having same fuel and parts mod rules in both series.…probably not.
You ever been to an MXdN race?
No.
AMA will always want to be different.
“It is about whether you win or not…that’s why we play the game”.
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Great question for the OP…
I was at both Red Buds and will be at Ironman next year. Then England or France after I retire. Nothing like it in MX.
I sat in the THOR grandstand in ‘18 with the contingent from Spain and we all cheered Prado’s amazing ride on the 250 and they cheered with us for Tomac. It’s like nothing else.
That sounds like a young banker's take on pride and money, but the avatar suggests a senior rider.
Doesn't matter how the team does, as long as Decoster remains manager. Hell let's pick the team from Loretta Lynn's super mini class. As long as Decoster runs it we are good, 1st, 4th, 10th place who cares as long as we participate with Roger managing.
Same. See you at the Ironman. I've never lost my voice from a National like I did at Red Bud '22. It really is like nothing else.
You're right. It's not the only thing. It's EVERYTHING! If and only if our guys have that attitude, may we walk away with it all.
And for some reason, I want to say. What comes around is all around. But that doesn't make sense here. But I said it. Because it is glorious and it is going to be glorious when we win.
I say absolutely strive for the top step and put everything you have into getting there but don't pout and look all grumpy on the podium if you don't make it.. (That's not just a shot the US guys it goes for Jett last year as well)
Sure winning is important but enjoy the experience of the race as well
Bad take Rutledge.
No. I bought a ticket to the cancelled one in California way back, and ended up going to the Glen Helen consolation event. Definitely not the same.
Lol. Not sure why you invoke that dude’s name. But what part of that comment do you disagree with? If it’s so important to win, why shouldn’t it be the richest purse of the year?
I think the riders that go ALL want to win. I’m sure they dream about winning their class and being the fastest mofo in the world (on that day). But clearly not everyone wants to go, for whatever reason, and not everyone who does go, is going to win. Let’s not punish those guys with criticism, but respect them for giving it a shot.
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I literally wrote “It’s okay not to win the MXdN, as long as you left it all on the track.” That’s not all-star game mentality. You misunderstood what I said.
Yeah man I understand what you said. I just disagree with you. I also disagree with the the "snack soccer mom" that tells kids that "it's ok to lose"
As a fan I want our riders to "lose their livers in a wreck going as fast as they can...or..at bar in a foreign country.".Either way is fine, just tell us about it
It’s the best race of the year hands down that’s a terrible take , should there be more money absolutely , but doesn’t take away from it being it the pinnacle of global motocross
That sounds a lot like 'damn i love this race so much but I fear we have no chance at winning it' lmao
winning doesn't matter as much as showing up does, there are a heap of teams that show up just to try to make the main,
I hate that phrase “left it all on the track”. When you just got terrible results. What a joke.
I wonder what Dad would have said to me if I told him that after riding like absolute dog shit.
If your dad was an honest man, he would have probably said “you rode like dogshit, son.”
My dad did say, ”you rode like dogshit son, but I could see you were leaving it all on the track”. Effort and performance don’t always line up. But you can certainly tell when someone is just mailing it in.
Its the biggest race in the world, till you guys dont win it, then it doesnt matter.
Every year.
Deegan said no to the MXDN again…so start a MXDN sucks thread as a smokescreen….
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dont you dare address the elephant in the room here lol
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