2024 MXoN predictions

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Sc2 wrote:

france 

ned

aus /usa

what about belgian,i can't remember who they have 

Taddy wrote:

2x Coenen + Everts

decent 

they may even have a chance to get on the box, you just cant call it 

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Canada 15th .

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I hate to pick France to repeat but they lacquered everybody's asses last year

France
Team Manager: Gautier Paulin
1 Romain Febvre (Kawasaki)
2 Tom Vialle (KTM)
3 Maxime Renaux (Yamaha)

Predict USA 2nd overall

USA
Team Manager: Roger De Coster
22 Chase Sexton (KTM)
23 Chance Hymas (Honda)
24 Aaron Plessinger (KTM)

A tie between Australia and Netherlands for 3rd overall - both very strong teams that could win 1st overall with some luck

Australia
Team Manager: Michael Byrne
4 Jett Lawrence (Honda)
5 Kyle Webster (Honda)
6 Hunter Lawrence (Honda)

Netherlands
Team Manager: Barry Forschelen
52 Jeffrey Herlings (KTM)
53 Kay de Wolf (Husqvarna)
54 Glenn Coldenhoff (Fantic)

 

Germany or Spain could podium if Nagl or Oliver get a great start and have one of the best riding days of their career

Germany
Team Manager: Marcel Dornhöfer
10 Ken Roczen (Suzuki)
11 Simon Längenfelder (GasGas)
12 Maximilian Nagl (Honda)

Spain
Team Manager: Paco Rico
19 Jorge Prado (GasGas)
20 Oriol Oliver (KTM)
21 Rubén Fernández (Honda)

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9/2/2024 7:35pm Edited Date/Time 9/2/2024 10:49pm
aees wrote:
If nothing catastrophic happens to any of the good teams like start crash, bike failure etc there is 3 teams that can land sub 25 points. Belgium...

If nothing catastrophic happens to any of the good teams like start crash, bike failure etc there is 3 teams that can land sub 25 points. 

Belgium and Netherlands is the only one I would not be surprised to see 18-20p.

Each country:

Belgium: 2,3,4,5,7 = 21p

Netherlands: 2,1,5,5,8 = 21p

France: 3,3,4,6,7 = 23p

USA 1,2,5,7,10 = 25p

Australia 1,3,4,5,14 =27p

I can't see AP or Chance being top 5 on a GP track right now, maybe 8-10. Neither Webster, more likely he is 15-20. Netherlands weak point is Herlings starts. They need a 1-2 from Herlings. Sounds like Roczen is a bit ill, so that should make it easier but adding Chase, Hunter, Jett, Roczen that all starts up front is going to make it really difficult for Herlings. 

What? The Coenens are very talented, but it would be very surprising to see Sasha finish inside the top 8, between crashes and fading late in the motos.  Everts has not seemed right the second half of the year IMO if its not a mud race.  Excited to see what Lucas can do on a 450 though

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USA

USA

USA

World Domination 

 

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No one predicting a Team GB win ha ha. Top 5 would be an awesome result but the talent pool in the UK is severely lacking at...

No one predicting a Team GB win ha ha. 

Top 5 would be an awesome result but the talent pool in the UK is severely lacking at the moment. 

My picks would be 


MXGP - Gilbert

MX2 - Askew or Rizzi (if Anstie isn’t going)

Open - Mewse

Anstie

Mews

Searle 

 Confirmed!

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Team South Africa to make it into A Finals. 

That's all I have. 

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Ned

Fran

Aus

Spain

Ger

Usa

Sui

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aees wrote:
If nothing catastrophic happens to any of the good teams like start crash, bike failure etc there is 3 teams that can land sub 25 points. Belgium...

If nothing catastrophic happens to any of the good teams like start crash, bike failure etc there is 3 teams that can land sub 25 points. 

Belgium and Netherlands is the only one I would not be surprised to see 18-20p.

Each country:

Belgium: 2,3,4,5,7 = 21p

Netherlands: 2,1,5,5,8 = 21p

France: 3,3,4,6,7 = 23p

USA 1,2,5,7,10 = 25p

Australia 1,3,4,5,14 =27p

I can't see AP or Chance being top 5 on a GP track right now, maybe 8-10. Neither Webster, more likely he is 15-20. Netherlands weak point is Herlings starts. They need a 1-2 from Herlings. Sounds like Roczen is a bit ill, so that should make it easier but adding Chase, Hunter, Jett, Roczen that all starts up front is going to make it really difficult for Herlings. 

NorCal1975 wrote:
What? The Coenens are very talented, but it would be very surprising to see Sasha finish inside the top 8, between crashes and fading late in...

What? The Coenens are very talented, but it would be very surprising to see Sasha finish inside the top 8, between crashes and fading late in the motos.  Everts has not seemed right the second half of the year IMO if its not a mud race.  Excited to see what Lucas can do on a 450 though

I think he could get a 7th somewhere as best case, and one throw away. 

If Sacha gets a good start in MX2/Open it's absolutely feasible with the riders in those classes. 

Renaux, Hunter, AP, Everts, Fernandez, Coldenhoff should beat him but also not unlikely one of them get a really poor start and Sacha is top 3-5.

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aees wrote:
If nothing catastrophic happens to any of the good teams like start crash, bike failure etc there is 3 teams that can land sub 25 points. Belgium...

If nothing catastrophic happens to any of the good teams like start crash, bike failure etc there is 3 teams that can land sub 25 points. 

Belgium and Netherlands is the only one I would not be surprised to see 18-20p.

Each country:

Belgium: 2,3,4,5,7 = 21p

Netherlands: 2,1,5,5,8 = 21p

France: 3,3,4,6,7 = 23p

USA 1,2,5,7,10 = 25p

Australia 1,3,4,5,14 =27p

I can't see AP or Chance being top 5 on a GP track right now, maybe 8-10. Neither Webster, more likely he is 15-20. Netherlands weak point is Herlings starts. They need a 1-2 from Herlings. Sounds like Roczen is a bit ill, so that should make it easier but adding Chase, Hunter, Jett, Roczen that all starts up front is going to make it really difficult for Herlings. 

NorCal1975 wrote:
What? The Coenens are very talented, but it would be very surprising to see Sasha finish inside the top 8, between crashes and fading late in...

What? The Coenens are very talented, but it would be very surprising to see Sasha finish inside the top 8, between crashes and fading late in the motos.  Everts has not seemed right the second half of the year IMO if its not a mud race.  Excited to see what Lucas can do on a 450 though

aees wrote:
I think he could get a 7th somewhere as best case, and one throw away. If Sacha gets a good start in MX2/Open it's absolutely feasible with...

I think he could get a 7th somewhere as best case, and one throw away. 

If Sacha gets a good start in MX2/Open it's absolutely feasible with the riders in those classes. 

Renaux, Hunter, AP, Everts, Fernandez, Coldenhoff should beat him but also not unlikely one of them get a really poor start and Sacha is top 3-5.

There are still some rider who can steal positions from teams that don't have the best chances.

Gajser, Ansti, McLellan, Horgmo, Adamo (btw, is danmark sending a team?)

 

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NorCal1975 wrote:
What? The Coenens are very talented, but it would be very surprising to see Sasha finish inside the top 8, between crashes and fading late in...

What? The Coenens are very talented, but it would be very surprising to see Sasha finish inside the top 8, between crashes and fading late in the motos.  Everts has not seemed right the second half of the year IMO if its not a mud race.  Excited to see what Lucas can do on a 450 though

aees wrote:
I think he could get a 7th somewhere as best case, and one throw away. If Sacha gets a good start in MX2/Open it's absolutely feasible with...

I think he could get a 7th somewhere as best case, and one throw away. 

If Sacha gets a good start in MX2/Open it's absolutely feasible with the riders in those classes. 

Renaux, Hunter, AP, Everts, Fernandez, Coldenhoff should beat him but also not unlikely one of them get a really poor start and Sacha is top 3-5.

Taddy347 wrote:
There are still some rider who can steal positions from teams that don't have the best chances.Gajser, Ansti, McLellan, Horgmo, Adamo (btw, is danmark sending a...

There are still some rider who can steal positions from teams that don't have the best chances.

Gajser, Ansti, McLellan, Horgmo, Adamo (btw, is danmark sending a team?)

 

Denmark is sending. 

Point is, in the open/250 there isn't that much competition for Sasha. Gajser will most likely run MXGP and prove himself against the best.  

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I think France, The Netherlands, Australia and USA battle it out for the win and podium. Those 4 I think will be the top 4 in any order, I have France as the slight favourites but not by much. 

Belgium, Italy, Germany could get themselves in there but I put those teams just a tick behind the Top 4. 

Team GB are a total wildcard, if they all ride to their maximum potential then they could produce a special result, but I think more likely in the 6–10 range 

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9/3/2024 7:45pm Edited Date/Time 9/19/2024 8:02pm

1. France
2. Netherlands
3. USA/AUS


It’s a solid track for our guys but all bets are off if the rain comes. I think a podium is realistic but far from a guarantee. 

Edit: I have no idea where we end up with Webb joining the team and with how the #7 has been riding lately. Full credit to Webb for stepping up though because he’s up against it for sure. A top five overall may not be a bad day for us this year. 

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I’ll be cheering for USA but it’s hard to bet against the Netherlands. Beligium has a strong team, but Everys and Lucas will be new to the bigger bikes. France is always good as well. 

I do think USA has a good chance to pull off a win, and definitely be on the podium. 

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The top 4-5 teams are close enough it will just come down to starts. Whoever gets the best starts will win.

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1) Canada

2) Australia

3) USA

4) France

5) Netherlands

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USA

Australia 

Dutch

Belgium

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kxking wrote:

1) Canada

2) Australia

3) USA

4) France

5) Netherlands

Canadian? 😂 

Seriously though I hope the have some luck this year, it’s a good team.

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9/4/2024 4:11pm

USA suprises everyone with the victory.  Lets go team USA

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Revisiting with the team changes...  These are the top 4.

FRA goes as Renaux goes.  If he's finding his groove, they are a pretty clear favorite.  Recent results though, he's not back to form yet...
NED goes as Coldenhoff goes.  Looking better than Renaux at the moment...
AUS goes as Webster goes.  P8 at Red Bud wasn't bad, can he adapt to the 250?
USA goes as Plessinger goes.  AMA outdoor speed?  Pretty good, if he brings that consistency.  If it's SMX performance?  Trouble.

Honorable mention.

BEL goes as their youth goes.  Stay on the bike, they could podium...  Continue their trend for crashes, they struggle.

Interesting that I see the MX3 rider being the key more than the MX2 rider for most of these teams.

I like Renaux to find his pace and FRA sneaks past NED for the win and USA just edges AUS for the podium as Webster doesn't get the score needed by just a couple places even though Hunter and Jett do well.

Jett inches past Chase for the MX1 win with 3-1 to Chases 1-4 with Gajser, Febvre and Herlings all in the mix.  Hunter gets past Renaux in another tight race for MX3 and Coldenhoff right behind them.  Vialle gets it done in 250 again and he's why FRA wins the overall.

FRA - NED - USA - AUS - BEL

Always the best MX event of the year!!

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Press516 wrote:
Revisiting with the team changes...  These are the top 4.FRA goes as Renaux goes.  If he's finding his groove, they are a pretty clear favorite.  Recent...

Revisiting with the team changes...  These are the top 4.

FRA goes as Renaux goes.  If he's finding his groove, they are a pretty clear favorite.  Recent results though, he's not back to form yet...
NED goes as Coldenhoff goes.  Looking better than Renaux at the moment...
AUS goes as Webster goes.  P8 at Red Bud wasn't bad, can he adapt to the 250?
USA goes as Plessinger goes.  AMA outdoor speed?  Pretty good, if he brings that consistency.  If it's SMX performance?  Trouble.

Honorable mention.

BEL goes as their youth goes.  Stay on the bike, they could podium...  Continue their trend for crashes, they struggle.

Interesting that I see the MX3 rider being the key more than the MX2 rider for most of these teams.

I like Renaux to find his pace and FRA sneaks past NED for the win and USA just edges AUS for the podium as Webster doesn't get the score needed by just a couple places even though Hunter and Jett do well.

Jett inches past Chase for the MX1 win with 3-1 to Chases 1-4 with Gajser, Febvre and Herlings all in the mix.  Hunter gets past Renaux in another tight race for MX3 and Coldenhoff right behind them.  Vialle gets it done in 250 again and he's why FRA wins the overall.

FRA - NED - USA - AUS - BEL

Always the best MX event of the year!!

So Jett wins MXGP, Hunter wins MX3 but somehow USA edges out AUS for third?  That would require relatively great rides from AP and Webb and a disastrous result from Webster.

Apparently Herlings is riding with cracked ribs so not sure how that affects NED.

Chase will have his work cut out for him taking a moto win with his starts against Jett, Febvre, Herlings, Prado, Gasjer, Seeuwer etc.

Agree that France is the favourite but I have Aus and Ned mixing it up with them for top three, and maybe USA if lots of results fall their way.

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Press516 wrote:
Revisiting with the team changes...  These are the top 4.FRA goes as Renaux goes.  If he's finding his groove, they are a pretty clear favorite.  Recent...

Revisiting with the team changes...  These are the top 4.

FRA goes as Renaux goes.  If he's finding his groove, they are a pretty clear favorite.  Recent results though, he's not back to form yet...
NED goes as Coldenhoff goes.  Looking better than Renaux at the moment...
AUS goes as Webster goes.  P8 at Red Bud wasn't bad, can he adapt to the 250?
USA goes as Plessinger goes.  AMA outdoor speed?  Pretty good, if he brings that consistency.  If it's SMX performance?  Trouble.

Honorable mention.

BEL goes as their youth goes.  Stay on the bike, they could podium...  Continue their trend for crashes, they struggle.

Interesting that I see the MX3 rider being the key more than the MX2 rider for most of these teams.

I like Renaux to find his pace and FRA sneaks past NED for the win and USA just edges AUS for the podium as Webster doesn't get the score needed by just a couple places even though Hunter and Jett do well.

Jett inches past Chase for the MX1 win with 3-1 to Chases 1-4 with Gajser, Febvre and Herlings all in the mix.  Hunter gets past Renaux in another tight race for MX3 and Coldenhoff right behind them.  Vialle gets it done in 250 again and he's why FRA wins the overall.

FRA - NED - USA - AUS - BEL

Always the best MX event of the year!!

ando wrote:
So Jett wins MXGP, Hunter wins MX3 but somehow USA edges out AUS for third?  That would require relatively great rides from AP and Webb and...

So Jett wins MXGP, Hunter wins MX3 but somehow USA edges out AUS for third?  That would require relatively great rides from AP and Webb and a disastrous result from Webster.

Apparently Herlings is riding with cracked ribs so not sure how that affects NED.

Chase will have his work cut out for him taking a moto win with his starts against Jett, Febvre, Herlings, Prado, Gasjer, Seeuwer etc.

Agree that France is the favourite but I have Aus and Ned mixing it up with them for top three, and maybe USA if lots of results fall their way.

Yeah, Webster on a 250 will put up 15-17ish motos in my opinion.  I don’t think he’ll get it done.  The MX3 class depth is similar to AMA 450 top 10 and at least 6 or 7 250 guys have him covered.  Again, just my opinion.

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France 

Australia

Netherlands

USA

Belgium 

I would have put Belgium ahead of the US if Everts was racing . Geerts is a question mark with the problems he's had lately . 4th is pretty optimistic for our team I think but I'm sticking with it . 

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9/20/2024 8:23am Edited Date/Time 9/20/2024 8:24am

Sexton has to win for us to have a shot at a podium. Don't have much faith in AP or Webb and I hope I’m wrong on that. Webb needs a redemption after crashing away the 2016 victory.


France is too strong and Vialle ripped on that track when in MX2. Finally an all Dutch team for second with DeWolf doing some heavy lifting and USA/AUS battling for third with a edge to Australia. 

If it rains, USA gets slaughtered. 

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9/20/2024 10:35am Edited Date/Time 9/20/2024 11:29am

I think some of my fellow Americans are a little too pessimistic here, lol.  Lets assume France, Australia, NED and the USA are the teams with a really solid shot at winning.  

If the track is dry, I think the US has about as good a chance as anyone.  I think Sexton is as fast or faster than Febvre and Herlings (especially since he is a little banged up), Jett might be a spot faster than Chase as he usually is.  Febvre can be really fast at this event, so would not be surprised if he finished top 2 or 3.    

AP is a bit of wildcard for me.  He pulled a 5th last year overall in Moto 1, then laid an egg.  But Renaux has not been that consistent since coming back, so who knows?  Hunter probably finishes a spot or three higher than AP, but I do think AP is faster than Coldenhoff.  Coldenhoff has come up clutch before, also had some bad weekends at MXON.   

Vialle and De Wolf are probably pretty similar and should finish higher than Cooper Webb, Webb should finish quite a bit higher than Webster though.  I have a hunch Webster kills AUS chances of winning unless Hunter and Jett absolutely crush it in both motos which is possible.    

Spain, Belgium and Germany could the be the surprise podium teams for me if things break their way.  

 

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9/20/2024 10:36am Edited Date/Time 9/20/2024 10:38am

1 - France
2 - Netherlands

3 - Australia

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Press516 wrote:
Revisiting with the team changes...  These are the top 4.FRA goes as Renaux goes.  If he's finding his groove, they are a pretty clear favorite.  Recent...

Revisiting with the team changes...  These are the top 4.

FRA goes as Renaux goes.  If he's finding his groove, they are a pretty clear favorite.  Recent results though, he's not back to form yet...
NED goes as Coldenhoff goes.  Looking better than Renaux at the moment...
AUS goes as Webster goes.  P8 at Red Bud wasn't bad, can he adapt to the 250?
USA goes as Plessinger goes.  AMA outdoor speed?  Pretty good, if he brings that consistency.  If it's SMX performance?  Trouble.

Honorable mention.

BEL goes as their youth goes.  Stay on the bike, they could podium...  Continue their trend for crashes, they struggle.

Interesting that I see the MX3 rider being the key more than the MX2 rider for most of these teams.

I like Renaux to find his pace and FRA sneaks past NED for the win and USA just edges AUS for the podium as Webster doesn't get the score needed by just a couple places even though Hunter and Jett do well.

Jett inches past Chase for the MX1 win with 3-1 to Chases 1-4 with Gajser, Febvre and Herlings all in the mix.  Hunter gets past Renaux in another tight race for MX3 and Coldenhoff right behind them.  Vialle gets it done in 250 again and he's why FRA wins the overall.

FRA - NED - USA - AUS - BEL

Always the best MX event of the year!!

ando wrote:
So Jett wins MXGP, Hunter wins MX3 but somehow USA edges out AUS for third?  That would require relatively great rides from AP and Webb and...

So Jett wins MXGP, Hunter wins MX3 but somehow USA edges out AUS for third?  That would require relatively great rides from AP and Webb and a disastrous result from Webster.

Apparently Herlings is riding with cracked ribs so not sure how that affects NED.

Chase will have his work cut out for him taking a moto win with his starts against Jett, Febvre, Herlings, Prado, Gasjer, Seeuwer etc.

Agree that France is the favourite but I have Aus and Ned mixing it up with them for top three, and maybe USA if lots of results fall their way.

First I heard Herlings has cracked ribs? 

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NorCal1975 wrote:
I think some of my fellow Americans are a little too pessimistic here, lol.  Lets assume France, Australia, NED and the USA are the teams with...

I think some of my fellow Americans are a little too pessimistic here, lol.  Lets assume France, Australia, NED and the USA are the teams with a really solid shot at winning.  

If the track is dry, I think the US has about as good a chance as anyone.  I think Sexton is as fast or faster than Febvre and Herlings (especially since he is a little banged up), Jett might be a spot faster than Chase as he usually is.  Febvre can be really fast at this event, so would not be surprised if he finished top 2 or 3.    

AP is a bit of wildcard for me.  He pulled a 5th last year overall in Moto 1, then laid an egg.  But Renaux has not been that consistent since coming back, so who knows?  Hunter probably finishes a spot or three higher than AP, but I do think AP is faster than Coldenhoff.  Coldenhoff has come up clutch before, also had some bad weekends at MXON.   

Vialle and De Wolf are probably pretty similar and should finish higher than Cooper Webb, Webb should finish quite a bit higher than Webster though.  I have a hunch Webster kills AUS chances of winning unless Hunter and Jett absolutely crush it in both motos which is possible.    

Spain, Belgium and Germany could the be the surprise podium teams for me if things break their way.  

 

This is what makes this event the best thing in motocross . You just never know and you can pretty much expect the unexpected. 

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Press516 wrote:
Revisiting with the team changes...  These are the top 4.FRA goes as Renaux goes.  If he's finding his groove, they are a pretty clear favorite.  Recent...

Revisiting with the team changes...  These are the top 4.

FRA goes as Renaux goes.  If he's finding his groove, they are a pretty clear favorite.  Recent results though, he's not back to form yet...
NED goes as Coldenhoff goes.  Looking better than Renaux at the moment...
AUS goes as Webster goes.  P8 at Red Bud wasn't bad, can he adapt to the 250?
USA goes as Plessinger goes.  AMA outdoor speed?  Pretty good, if he brings that consistency.  If it's SMX performance?  Trouble.

Honorable mention.

BEL goes as their youth goes.  Stay on the bike, they could podium...  Continue their trend for crashes, they struggle.

Interesting that I see the MX3 rider being the key more than the MX2 rider for most of these teams.

I like Renaux to find his pace and FRA sneaks past NED for the win and USA just edges AUS for the podium as Webster doesn't get the score needed by just a couple places even though Hunter and Jett do well.

Jett inches past Chase for the MX1 win with 3-1 to Chases 1-4 with Gajser, Febvre and Herlings all in the mix.  Hunter gets past Renaux in another tight race for MX3 and Coldenhoff right behind them.  Vialle gets it done in 250 again and he's why FRA wins the overall.

FRA - NED - USA - AUS - BEL

Always the best MX event of the year!!

ando wrote:
So Jett wins MXGP, Hunter wins MX3 but somehow USA edges out AUS for third?  That would require relatively great rides from AP and Webb and...

So Jett wins MXGP, Hunter wins MX3 but somehow USA edges out AUS for third?  That would require relatively great rides from AP and Webb and a disastrous result from Webster.

Apparently Herlings is riding with cracked ribs so not sure how that affects NED.

Chase will have his work cut out for him taking a moto win with his starts against Jett, Febvre, Herlings, Prado, Gasjer, Seeuwer etc.

Agree that France is the favourite but I have Aus and Ned mixing it up with them for top three, and maybe USA if lots of results fall their way.

First I heard Herlings has cracked ribs? 

It was on the VitalMX MXGP podcast

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Tomac is in! USA will win! 

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