Mountainview MX for sale!!!!

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Iconic PNW moto track. Unfortunately I see no way the math pencils out to keep it open. Had some of the best and worst days ever there from primo conditions to a broken back. I'd hate to see it disappear.

 

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9/12/2024 12:01pm

I hope someone keeps it running. But at that price I can’t imagine it selling.  There’s much nicer homes in the area on the same property for less than 1.5m.

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9/12/2024 12:02pm

Hopefully someone buys it and keeps it running and doesn't cancel every day with more than a 2% chance of rain 

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9/12/2024 12:16pm
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Hopefully someone buys it and keeps it running and doesn't cancel every day with more than a 2% chance of rain 

Ha but if you've ridden it in the rain you know WHY they close it. Wink  

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9/12/2024 12:35pm

Do same owners that owned back in the late 1980's still own it?

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9/12/2024 3:11pm

Maybe motosport should buy it. It's a fun track real blow to the area if it closes. 

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9/12/2024 5:52pm

That price will come down. 

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9/12/2024 7:31pm

Doesn’t seem too wild of a price. Bet it becomes a neighborhood. Have great memories of that place!

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13% cap 

So he thinks he nets $475k/year out of a mx track open 7 months a year?

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13% cap 

So he thinks he nets $475k/year out of a mx track open 7 months a year?

That would be 9500 rider days @ $50/day. Doesn't seem a realistic net unless they get a good bit from races held for the series' that use the track.

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Yeah, the math does not add up.  Nice practice track but turn out has been low for a couple of years.   No return on investment I can see there.

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Not sure it pencils out, but it seems like it would be a great location for a moto community, where an HOA supports the track. Have all buyers sign away their ability to complain about the track etc.

Always thought it would be a great way to build a track and (hopefully) hedge against future shutdowns.

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9/13/2024 11:03am Edited Date/Time 9/13/2024 12:07pm

So close to homes for a track.  I looked at a place on 35 acres that had a small MX track about 4 years ago. And I ended up not looking into it too much because of all the houses so close by.  Amazing the neighbors are cool with a track right there.  

Looks like a beautiful place , price wise even in Ma it seems like its high. But I don't know OR.* real Estate . I would love to have something like that. But I would worry about investing that much money into a property with  homes close by. If I was going to run the track to make money I would want to be farther away from homes. Parking looks tight for a track that holds races.  I hope it stays a track. It looks  nice. 

 

Edited to correct my mistake of the state it is located in. I had WA.  

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9/13/2024 11:41am
So close to homes for a track.  I looked at a place on 35 acres that had a small MX track about 4 years ago. And...

So close to homes for a track.  I looked at a place on 35 acres that had a small MX track about 4 years ago. And I ended up not looking into it too much because of all the houses so close by.  Amazing the neighbors are cool with a track right there.  

Looks like a beautiful place , price wise even in Ma it seems like its high. But I don't know OR.* real Estate . I would love to have something like that. But I would worry about investing that much money into a property with  homes close by. If I was going to run the track to make money I would want to be farther away from homes. Parking looks tight for a track that holds races.  I hope it stays a track. It looks  nice. 

 

Edited to correct my mistake of the state it is located in. I had WA.  

It’s in Oregon

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Honestly they haven’t done a great job as far as managing and promoting but it is a very cool property and is a fun track depending on the day

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9/13/2024 12:03pm
So close to homes for a track.  I looked at a place on 35 acres that had a small MX track about 4 years ago. And...

So close to homes for a track.  I looked at a place on 35 acres that had a small MX track about 4 years ago. And I ended up not looking into it too much because of all the houses so close by.  Amazing the neighbors are cool with a track right there.  

Looks like a beautiful place , price wise even in Ma it seems like its high. But I don't know OR.* real Estate . I would love to have something like that. But I would worry about investing that much money into a property with  homes close by. If I was going to run the track to make money I would want to be farther away from homes. Parking looks tight for a track that holds races.  I hope it stays a track. It looks  nice. 

 

Edited to correct my mistake of the state it is located in. I had WA.  

It’s in Oregon

Ok, I don't know that market either.  All the WA based replies and a post saying Motosport should buy it had WA on my brain I geuss. 

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So close to homes for a track.  I looked at a place on 35 acres that had a small MX track about 4 years ago. And...

So close to homes for a track.  I looked at a place on 35 acres that had a small MX track about 4 years ago. And I ended up not looking into it too much because of all the houses so close by.  Amazing the neighbors are cool with a track right there.  

Looks like a beautiful place , price wise even in Ma it seems like its high. But I don't know OR.* real Estate . I would love to have something like that. But I would worry about investing that much money into a property with  homes close by. If I was going to run the track to make money I would want to be farther away from homes. Parking looks tight for a track that holds races.  I hope it stays a track. It looks  nice. 

 

Edited to correct my mistake of the state it is located in. I had WA.  

It’s in Oregon

Ok, I don't know that market either.  All the WA based replies and a post saying Motosport should buy it had WA on my brain I...

Ok, I don't know that market either.  All the WA based replies and a post saying Motosport should buy it had WA on my brain I geuss. 

Motosport in in Oregon too lol.

In your defense, Sandy OR is close to the WA border so all the SW WA folks make the trip pretty easily.

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Honestly they haven’t done a great job as far as managing and promoting but it is a very cool property and is a fun track depending...

Honestly they haven’t done a great job as far as managing and promoting but it is a very cool property and is a fun track depending on the day

There are a LOT of restrictions by the county on them. They can only run so many days a month, and with more and more people moving out to the country I expect it's just gonna get worse. Same deal at Washougal, and Woodland, and almost every other track I know of in the Portland area. How do you make $1 million running a motocross track? Start with $5 million. It's been a dream of mine for years to own and run my own track, but I'd need a big lottery win to ever consider it. It's thrown-away money for the most part, done out of love for the sport. 

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9/13/2024 12:50pm Edited Date/Time 9/13/2024 12:52pm
I hope someone keeps it running. But at that price I can’t imagine it selling.  There’s much nicer homes in the area on the same property...

I hope someone keeps it running. But at that price I can’t imagine it selling.  There’s much nicer homes in the area on the same property for less than 1.5m.

Not on 33 acres.


Mountain View is one of the sketchiest tracks I’ve ever ridden. Never felt comfortable there. On a bad day, it’s really bad.

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9/13/2024 12:59pm

It’s in Oregon

Ok, I don't know that market either.  All the WA based replies and a post saying Motosport should buy it had WA on my brain I...

Ok, I don't know that market either.  All the WA based replies and a post saying Motosport should buy it had WA on my brain I geuss. 

Motosport in in Oregon too lol.In your defense, Sandy OR is close to the WA border so all the SW WA folks make the trip pretty...

Motosport in in Oregon too lol.

In your defense, Sandy OR is close to the WA border so all the SW WA folks make the trip pretty easily.

I had no idea they were not in WA anymore.   Its been a while since I got anything from them.  I guess they have been in OR longer than they were in WA.  I looked it up and they have been there since 2001.  

 

I always associated them with Washougal . When I got started making MX graphics there was a sign message board that I was on a lot and the owner of another graphic company that did work for Motosport and Washougal posted on there often. So in the back of my mind I got stuck on it being there. I never thought that they moved.  

 

Beautiful place. That track.  Love the elevation and the grounds look great.  Not many tracks like that for sale.        

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Honestly they haven’t done a great job as far as managing and promoting but it is a very cool property and is a fun track depending...

Honestly they haven’t done a great job as far as managing and promoting but it is a very cool property and is a fun track depending on the day

There are a LOT of restrictions by the county on them. They can only run so many days a month, and with more and more people...

There are a LOT of restrictions by the county on them. They can only run so many days a month, and with more and more people moving out to the country I expect it's just gonna get worse. Same deal at Washougal, and Woodland, and almost every other track I know of in the Portland area. How do you make $1 million running a motocross track? Start with $5 million. It's been a dream of mine for years to own and run my own track, but I'd need a big lottery win to ever consider it. It's thrown-away money for the most part, done out of love for the sport. 

I’m more talking about their weird limited/super limited/unlimited practices, how they’re run, late cancellations, etc etc. 

They just seemed asleep at the wheel the last 10 years or so. Just my opinion. 

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Ok, I don't know that market either.  All the WA based replies and a post saying Motosport should buy it had WA on my brain I...

Ok, I don't know that market either.  All the WA based replies and a post saying Motosport should buy it had WA on my brain I geuss. 

Motosport in in Oregon too lol.In your defense, Sandy OR is close to the WA border so all the SW WA folks make the trip pretty...

Motosport in in Oregon too lol.

In your defense, Sandy OR is close to the WA border so all the SW WA folks make the trip pretty easily.

I had no idea they were not in WA anymore.   Its been a while since I got anything from them.  I guess they have been...

I had no idea they were not in WA anymore.   Its been a while since I got anything from them.  I guess they have been in OR longer than they were in WA.  I looked it up and they have been there since 2001.  

 

I always associated them with Washougal . When I got started making MX graphics there was a sign message board that I was on a lot and the owner of another graphic company that did work for Motosport and Washougal posted on there often. So in the back of my mind I got stuck on it being there. I never thought that they moved.  

 

Beautiful place. That track.  Love the elevation and the grounds look great.  Not many tracks like that for sale.        

You are right in that Motosport started in Yakima WA. Im actually a little fuzzy on the details of Motosport Hillsboro and their move and everything. I’m sure someone here knows

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Honestly they haven’t done a great job as far as managing and promoting but it is a very cool property and is a fun track depending...

Honestly they haven’t done a great job as far as managing and promoting but it is a very cool property and is a fun track depending on the day

There are a LOT of restrictions by the county on them. They can only run so many days a month, and with more and more people...

There are a LOT of restrictions by the county on them. They can only run so many days a month, and with more and more people moving out to the country I expect it's just gonna get worse. Same deal at Washougal, and Woodland, and almost every other track I know of in the Portland area. How do you make $1 million running a motocross track? Start with $5 million. It's been a dream of mine for years to own and run my own track, but I'd need a big lottery win to ever consider it. It's thrown-away money for the most part, done out of love for the sport. 

I’m more talking about their weird limited/super limited/unlimited practices, how they’re run, late cancellations, etc etc. They just seemed asleep at the wheel the last 10 years...

I’m more talking about their weird limited/super limited/unlimited practices, how they’re run, late cancellations, etc etc. 

They just seemed asleep at the wheel the last 10 years or so. Just my opinion. 

Yeah, I think it's a British thing. But really, every track around here has its idiosyncrasies in scheduling, prep, ands communication. Half the time I don't even understand what the Albany crew writes. Smile

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9/13/2024 1:32pm Edited Date/Time 9/13/2024 1:33pm

Well unfortunately I'm getting bad vibes about this. I have ridden this track since I was a little kid, probably hundreds of times. I have had many great memories I'll never forget and also a bad crash that should have left me dead (both femurs, back, pelvis in multiple spots). 

I feel for the owners though. Jenny passed away not too long ago and Keith/Fam is probably burnt out and want to move on and retire into the sunset. 

I have a feeling the buyer will not continue operating the track. This will leave only 2 tracks in the Portland area. Albany and PIR. But PIR is rarely open for practice and Albany ruined their layout, sucks especially when they let quads and SXS on it the same day as MX. 

For WA there's only Washougal, Woodland, and Riverdale. But only Washougal is open during the summer. 

I would be devasted to see this track go. It's the best track in Oregon IMO (even though there aren't that many). It seems as if the moto scene in the PNW is dying a slow death which is a shame because I've never met a more devout fan base. 

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I hope someone keeps it running. But at that price I can’t imagine it selling.  There’s much nicer homes in the area on the same property...

I hope someone keeps it running. But at that price I can’t imagine it selling.  There’s much nicer homes in the area on the same property for less than 1.5m.

Not on 33 acres.


Mountain View is one of the sketchiest tracks I’ve ever ridden. Never felt comfortable there. On a bad day, it’s really bad.

We've ridden it on those cool, misty PNW days where the dirt stays perfect all day, and it was majik. But with rain, or all those damn wood chunks, or your normal day where it goes from slick to perfect to blue groove in 60 minutes, yeah, it can get really sketchy really fast. Then throw in the roller coaster layout and the big jumps and add some goons..... I've seen more injuries there, and some bad ones, than most other places. Still, on a good day, when I'm in my groove, there's not many places more fun. And the pits are awesome - lush grass under big ponderosa pines, dappled sunlight - heaven.

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9/13/2024 1:35pm
I hope someone keeps it running. But at that price I can’t imagine it selling.  There’s much nicer homes in the area on the same property...

I hope someone keeps it running. But at that price I can’t imagine it selling.  There’s much nicer homes in the area on the same property for less than 1.5m.

Not on 33 acres.


Mountain View is one of the sketchiest tracks I’ve ever ridden. Never felt comfortable there. On a bad day, it’s really bad.

We've ridden it on those cool, misty PNW days where the dirt stays perfect all day, and it was majik. But with rain, or all those...

We've ridden it on those cool, misty PNW days where the dirt stays perfect all day, and it was majik. But with rain, or all those damn wood chunks, or your normal day where it goes from slick to perfect to blue groove in 60 minutes, yeah, it can get really sketchy really fast. Then throw in the roller coaster layout and the big jumps and add some goons..... I've seen more injuries there, and some bad ones, than most other places. Still, on a good day, when I'm in my groove, there's not many places more fun. And the pits are awesome - lush grass under big ponderosa pines, dappled sunlight - heaven.

I'm glad the big bark chips are pretty much gone. Yes rain is not your friend for this track. The magic happens when they prep it good and it stays cloudy all day...

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9/13/2024 2:28pm

The economics of charging $40-50 to ride don't seem to add up for tracks that aren't open on a regular schedule. 

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9/13/2024 5:10pm

Back in the early to mid 2000s Tuesday practice there was so busy and so fun. What a killer scene at the time. The Hewitts are great people. I really miss riding MtView. 

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Back in the early to mid 2000s Tuesday practice there was so busy and so fun. What a killer scene at the time. The Hewitts are...

Back in the early to mid 2000s Tuesday practice there was so busy and so fun. What a killer scene at the time. The Hewitts are great people. I really miss riding MtView. 

These are some of the memories I’m talking about. Tuesdays after school. So awesome.

9/14/2024 11:32am

I have not been to Mt View in about 16 years when the PNW mx series raced there.   I have been really wanting to make it back there this year and take my son who has never been there. I hope I can make it happen asap

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The Hewitts are good people, and Jenny was such an awesome person. I was discussing the previous owner with her years ago and mentioned that he wasn't the best of people, and she told the story about how they signed the papers to buy the track in the airport because the previous owner was bailing and leaving town.

I think if it sells it will need to be to an enthusiast who wants to keep the track open, otherwise I think the most likely outcome is that it won't survive as a track much longer.  I first raced there in the early 80's and always liked the track, so it's been around quite awhile but tracks don't last forever.

Hope for the best, and wish the same for the family.

 

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