Charlotte Concrete Barriers?!!

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Apologies if this that been talked about here, but damn those concrete barriers had me nervous while watching the races, especially when Hampshire hit that tuff block and went yard selling towards them! 

Would have been nice to see Feld add tuff blocks along known areas for crashing, like the main rhythm lane. 

Flame on...

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9/9/2024 5:52am

I think it's crazy that they did not remove them or cover them. So much for safety in an already dangerous sport.

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9/9/2024 5:55am Edited Date/Time 9/9/2024 5:56am

We were out there for track walk kind of taking a look at the sections and yeah it is pretty surprising that no one whacked one of those. Also, the long straight of rollers before the sand section was like 5 feet off of a chainlink fence all the way down it. Hearing Tomac bouncing off the limiter at the top of 3rd or 4th gear there, just a couple feet from a chainlink fence was a bit wild. One bad swap and your into the cheese grater before you know it...

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I thought RJ was going to be dead. Why not just a moat with gators.

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9/9/2024 5:58am

Hampshire was close to land on one of those back first at high speed. Couldve been reeal ugly. Its crazy how they dont give a fuck about safety

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9/9/2024 5:59am

Just adds to the excitement of dare devil Supermoto cross races…. Almost as insane as having kids on mini ride a full blown Sx track…why not have a ring of fire  to jump through 

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Zeke27G
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sandman768 wrote:
Just adds to the excitement of dare devil Supermoto cross races…. Almost as insane as having kids on mini ride a full blown Sx track…why not...

Just adds to the excitement of dare devil Supermoto cross races…. Almost as insane as having kids on mini ride a full blown Sx track…why not have a ring of fire  to jump through 

65cc racers would be docked 2 positions for jumping through the ring of fire. 

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9/9/2024 6:50am

Im surprised they weren’t covered. Beyond the safety aspect (Hampshire had me nervous with that crash) that’s a lot of potential ad space getting wasted. 

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9/9/2024 7:04am
MxAddic wrote:

I thought RJ was going to be dead. Why not just a moat with gators.

They told the 65 riders they couldn’t jump the finish line for safety. Look at everybody crying about that. 

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9/9/2024 7:12am Edited Date/Time 9/9/2024 7:14am
MxAddic wrote:

I thought RJ was going to be dead. Why not just a moat with gators.

They told the 65 riders they couldn’t jump the finish line for safety. Look at everybody crying about that. 

That's a weird argument why didn’t they just tell the pros to stay on track while they were at it lol

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They told the 65 riders they couldn’t jump the finish line for safety. Look at everybody crying about that. 

It's all optics Bro. SX champ opens his head on the barrier like a can of tomato soup/good. 8YO comes up short on live TV and goes splat/bad.

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9/9/2024 7:43am Edited Date/Time 9/9/2024 7:45am

The 65's were incredible to watch ! talk about talented kids my god...  Seems sketchy to me though if I'm being honest, that's a whole different scale than your average 65/85 track. How far would the pros be jumping if they scaled up the track the same percentage as the size difference between a 65 and 450 ?   I'm all about kids on dirt bikes and riding and racing and camping in the desert the whole nine yards. But I'm not sure about having them fly who knows how far 25 feet in the air and having to clear "a very bad place to land"  or.... Sorry just the grandpa in me talking. 

It seems contradictory that they talk about growing the sport and then have the kids fuck king Fa - lying over those gaps where if they come up short they're going to get FUCKED up. What if that race was a newbie parents first exposure to motocross ?  "Mommy Daddy I want to get a dirt bike and race" !   The average parent would look at that shit and say no way in hell.  Anyway my kids grew up riding and racing and I am in awe of those kids talent, but holy shit that track was too much circus act obstacles for my taste ( Guess Grandpa Earl I aint)   🤔

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9/9/2024 9:08am
twotwosix wrote:
We were out there for track walk kind of taking a look at the sections and yeah it is pretty surprising that no one whacked one...

We were out there for track walk kind of taking a look at the sections and yeah it is pretty surprising that no one whacked one of those. Also, the long straight of rollers before the sand section was like 5 feet off of a chainlink fence all the way down it. Hearing Tomac bouncing off the limiter at the top of 3rd or 4th gear there, just a couple feet from a chainlink fence was a bit wild. One bad swap and your into the cheese grater before you know it...

Some kind of protective cover(s) for those walls is a necessity in the areas where a rider can impact them…especially where a rider can hit a jump or other feature that can cause them to be launched onto the barrier.

The Chainlink fence being so close to the track is also a rider-safety problem. 

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9/9/2024 9:14am Edited Date/Time 9/9/2024 10:51am
matze wrote:
Hampshire was close to land on one of those back first at high speed. Couldve been reeal ugly. Its crazy how they dont give a fuck...

Hampshire was close to land on one of those back first at high speed. Couldve been reeal ugly. Its crazy how they dont give a fuck about safety

RJH is a permanent hazard to any sort of barrier.

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9/9/2024 10:36am

We had this thread last year. We will have it again next year. 

2000 Joliet Supercross was on a drag strip. No one cared. Per last year's thread, that was ok because the speeds were slower, which is funny because the way RJ crashed could have easily happened the same way 24 years ago.

Let's reconvene in 2025. I predict zero safety related changes.

 

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9/9/2024 11:24am

Every SX track runs parallel to concrete walls... Some are perpendicular, just ask Evan Ferry!

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9/9/2024 11:29am
Zeke27G wrote:
Apologies if this that been talked about here, but damn those concrete barriers had me nervous while watching the races, especially when Hampshire hit that tuff...

Apologies if this that been talked about here, but damn those concrete barriers had me nervous while watching the races, especially when Hampshire hit that tuff block and went yard selling towards them! 

Would have been nice to see Feld add tuff blocks along known areas for crashing, like the main rhythm lane. 

Flame on...

That would cost money so there’s no way they’ll do it. 

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That would cost money so there’s no way they’ll do it. 

Only way bean counters get a raise is to find a way to count more beans, not less.

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9/9/2024 5:03pm

Beat to death last year.  maybe we should get rid of the ground too. Better yet have it on the moon so no one gets hurt on a crash. 

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side-pipe wrote:
Beat to death last year.  maybe we should get rid of the ground too. Better yet have it on the moon so no one gets hurt...

Beat to death last year.  maybe we should get rid of the ground too. Better yet have it on the moon so no one gets hurt on a crash. 

image 45

 

Looks dusty. You’re gonna need NASA to find room to ship a water truck along with Buzz’s moon buggy.

 

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side-pipe wrote:
Beat to death last year.  maybe we should get rid of the ground too. Better yet have it on the moon so no one gets hurt...

Beat to death last year.  maybe we should get rid of the ground too. Better yet have it on the moon so no one gets hurt on a crash. 

Zeke27G wrote:
 Looks dusty. You’re gonna need NASA to find room to ship a water truck along with Buzz’s moon buggy.  
image 45

 

Looks dusty. You’re gonna need NASA to find room to ship a water truck along with Buzz’s moon buggy.

 

if there is track up there trust me a track owner will find a way to get a water truck up there. 

 

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Feld = Ringling Bros.  It’s all just part of the circus gentleman.  It’s sad that “growing the sport” has things devolving into what we have at these drag strip rounds.  Nothing will change until someone is killed or paralyzed and then we’ll say oh well, it’s a dangerous sport, and move on with no changes. 🤦🏼‍♂️

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side-pipe wrote:
Beat to death last year.  maybe we should get rid of the ground too. Better yet have it on the moon so no one gets hurt...

Beat to death last year.  maybe we should get rid of the ground too. Better yet have it on the moon so no one gets hurt on a crash. 

Zeke27G wrote:
 Looks dusty. You’re gonna need NASA to find room to ship a water truck along with Buzz’s moon buggy.  
image 45

 

Looks dusty. You’re gonna need NASA to find room to ship a water truck along with Buzz’s moon buggy.

 

Surely that studio has at least one fire hose?

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9/9/2024 6:46pm

Couldn't they simply take a couple of loads of dirt - ya know? Like they're already pushing around all week - and turn the abrupt vertical concrete barrier into a long dirt mound?

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9/10/2024 11:07am

There has to be some sort of a solution. It was a good track, but those barriers are an unacceptable risk.

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9/10/2024 11:41am

Remember when Trey Carnard was going to be the "go to guy" for rider and track safety and he didn't go do it because in his words "the riders had very little to no interest in having a safety rep" So what I cant figure out is why all the key board kings on Vital care about it, if the riders dont. 😎

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9/10/2024 11:51am

Like most things until it goes wrongs there will be no change , there’s things you can’t change and have to draw a line somewhere but that’s lethal , you land on one of them your backs done 

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Zeke27G wrote:
 Looks dusty. You’re gonna need NASA to find room to ship a water truck along with Buzz’s moon buggy.  
image 45

 

Looks dusty. You’re gonna need NASA to find room to ship a water truck along with Buzz’s moon buggy.

 

Why does the spray from the tires seem to be effected my normal gravity?

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9/12/2024 8:13am Edited Date/Time 9/12/2024 8:14am

There has to be some sort of a solution. It was a good track, but those barriers are an unacceptable risk.

Ask AP and a bunch of others if the track was good. The only ones I heard say it was where on the box.

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