Chase Sexton says he has some work to do with the team

9/8/2024 8:57pm
S.A. Weave wrote:

I would think it's more demoralizing to get beat by Tomac. 

Tomac always had Chase covered though. Chase never beat Eli for a championship unless Eli crashed out.

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Legit question... Was the move to KTM for Sexton a good or a bad move so far?

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If he had Tomac's air fork it would have been gooder'.

He could’ve had those forks too but he chose to go to KTM for more money and to be the number 1 guy. I think it was on Pulp where they said he test rode the Star Yamaha and loved it but chose KTM instead. 

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9/8/2024 10:01pm Edited Date/Time 9/8/2024 10:02pm

We watched his fork coming off the single we we’re sitting by leading into a corner entrance and compared it to the top 10 450 bikes coming in front or behind him… His fork was way to stiff and it’s a miracle Chase finished where he did IMOP 😬

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I'm a Sexton fan but that sounds like an excuse because he couldnt beat jett this weekend. Because for weeks now hes been saying how good...

I'm a Sexton fan but that sounds like an excuse because he couldnt beat jett this weekend. Because for weeks now hes been saying how good his bike is and how ccomfortable he has been. But now he blames the bike once jett comes back and beats him again

It could be a reason as they do struggle to get a bike for that specific series, but, even if he did it's not the problem, it because jet is faster, and Tomac is too, especially at that sort of track. 

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9/8/2024 11:07pm
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I think his bike is far better outdoors. People say it’s the Jett factor but he got beat by Eli and Hunta Moto 1 and that’s...

I think his bike is far better outdoors. People say it’s the Jett factor but he got beat by Eli and Hunta Moto 1 and that’s not happening on the regular in 2024 MX. Jett is also generational. Sexton is a bad ass on the 450.

Hunter beat him plenty of motos outdoors this year until the last race at ironman?

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I'm a Sexton fan but that sounds like an excuse because he couldnt beat jett this weekend. Because for weeks now hes been saying how good...

I'm a Sexton fan but that sounds like an excuse because he couldnt beat jett this weekend. Because for weeks now hes been saying how good his bike is and how ccomfortable he has been. But now he blames the bike once jett comes back and beats him again

BJR74 wrote:
It could be a reason as they do struggle to get a bike for that specific series, but, even if he did it's not the problem...

It could be a reason as they do struggle to get a bike for that specific series, but, even if he did it's not the problem, it because jet is faster, and Tomac is too, especially at that sort of track. 

You are wrong. Reading this thread proves a lot of you guys don’t realise how close these guys are…. Skill, fitness etc etc. Bike set up is huge at this level, ktm hasn’t been dialled in for SX since the last gen frame, while his moto setup worked great for him they still have work to do getting him comfortable with Sx, (for those that don’t know a hugely different bike set up) it shouldn’t be that hard to comprehend. Now wether he can beat jett or eli once he’s comfortable is another story, but no need to discredit chase as if he’s just making excuses. I’d say hes pretty hard on himself and realistic, and expects the same from the team. 

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9/8/2024 11:38pm

When Jett dropped out of MX this summer the fans said “Chase is now riding better than ever, his bike is finally dialled & he’d beat Jett now”

The reality is, he was just about handling Hunter. 

Jett returns and handles Hunter & Chase immediately. What more proof do you need that Chase hadn’t actually stepped it up? His bike didn’t get better. 
Chase was handed that championship when Jett crashed. 

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9/9/2024 2:23am
When Jett dropped out of MX this summer the fans said “Chase is now riding better than ever, his bike is finally dialled & he’d beat...

When Jett dropped out of MX this summer the fans said “Chase is now riding better than ever, his bike is finally dialled & he’d beat Jett now”

The reality is, he was just about handling Hunter. 

Jett returns and handles Hunter & Chase immediately. What more proof do you need that Chase hadn’t actually stepped it up? His bike didn’t get better. 
Chase was handed that championship when Jett crashed. 

He won 11 of the last 13 motos and the last 6 overalls. In what world is that "just about handling" anybody? 

Watch Thunder Valley and then watch Millville or Washougal and tell us his bike doesn't look better. I mean look at the bike instead of just comparing him to what other riders are doing.
I wouldn't say he'd beat Jett but he absolutely got better as the season went on. The difference was night and day in some races.

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9/9/2024 4:20am
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Jett is better than Chase. Chase will never be as fast as Jett consistently, doesn't matter what bike he's on. They were on the same bike...

Jett is better than Chase. Chase will never be as fast as Jett consistently, doesn't matter what bike he's on. They were on the same bike and this was true. But this is also true for the rest of the field. Except maybe Deegan, which we've yet to see. So you have to respect Chase for trying. Him not willing to roll over and give up means something.

This. And there's no shame in bbeing beat by one of the most talented riders this sport has ever seen

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9/9/2024 4:29am
When Jett dropped out of MX this summer the fans said “Chase is now riding better than ever, his bike is finally dialled & he’d beat...

When Jett dropped out of MX this summer the fans said “Chase is now riding better than ever, his bike is finally dialled & he’d beat Jett now”

The reality is, he was just about handling Hunter. 

Jett returns and handles Hunter & Chase immediately. What more proof do you need that Chase hadn’t actually stepped it up? His bike didn’t get better. 
Chase was handed that championship when Jett crashed. 

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He won 11 of the last 13 motos and the last 6 overalls. In what world is that "just about handling" anybody? Watch Thunder Valley and then...

He won 11 of the last 13 motos and the last 6 overalls. In what world is that "just about handling" anybody? 

Watch Thunder Valley and then watch Millville or Washougal and tell us his bike doesn't look better. I mean look at the bike instead of just comparing him to what other riders are doing.
I wouldn't say he'd beat Jett but he absolutely got better as the season went on. The difference was night and day in some races.

You're confusing riding 'better' with 'faster'. 

Sure, he was riding better & he looked a bit smoother, because with Eli & Jett out he wasnt having to ride the ragged edge to keep up. 

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9/9/2024 4:49am
When Jett dropped out of MX this summer the fans said “Chase is now riding better than ever, his bike is finally dialled & he’d beat...

When Jett dropped out of MX this summer the fans said “Chase is now riding better than ever, his bike is finally dialled & he’d beat Jett now”

The reality is, he was just about handling Hunter. 

Jett returns and handles Hunter & Chase immediately. What more proof do you need that Chase hadn’t actually stepped it up? His bike didn’t get better. 
Chase was handed that championship when Jett crashed. 

crusty_xx wrote:
He won 11 of the last 13 motos and the last 6 overalls. In what world is that "just about handling" anybody? Watch Thunder Valley and then...

He won 11 of the last 13 motos and the last 6 overalls. In what world is that "just about handling" anybody? 

Watch Thunder Valley and then watch Millville or Washougal and tell us his bike doesn't look better. I mean look at the bike instead of just comparing him to what other riders are doing.
I wouldn't say he'd beat Jett but he absolutely got better as the season went on. The difference was night and day in some races.

You're confusing riding 'better' with 'faster'. Sure, he was riding better & he looked a bit smoother, because with Eli & Jett out he wasnt having to...

You're confusing riding 'better' with 'faster'. 

Sure, he was riding better & he looked a bit smoother, because with Eli & Jett out he wasnt having to ride the ragged edge to keep up. 

Yeah I guess then I am confused 😄

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9/9/2024 5:07am
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Let's not forget the results Jett put up at SMX 1 last year. The Hunter brothers are my guys, and of course I want to jump...

Let's not forget the results Jett put up at SMX 1 last year. The Hunter brothers are my guys, and of course I want to jump on the "Chase crumbles in Jett's presence" campaign, but there's every chance its a Championship hangover ride, with Chase back to his best this weekend.

Of course, there's every chance that it isn't also. 

Sexton still left Charlotte with the points lead.  With the SMX points system, Chase needs to be faster than Jett and Eli in Vegas.  No need to test your limits in Round 1, especially since your outdoor bonus check might not have cleared yet. 

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9/9/2024 5:19am
jazza167 wrote:
You are wrong. Reading this thread proves a lot of you guys don’t realise how close these guys are…. Skill, fitness etc etc. Bike set up...

You are wrong. Reading this thread proves a lot of you guys don’t realise how close these guys are…. Skill, fitness etc etc. Bike set up is huge at this level, ktm hasn’t been dialled in for SX since the last gen frame, while his moto setup worked great for him they still have work to do getting him comfortable with Sx, (for those that don’t know a hugely different bike set up) it shouldn’t be that hard to comprehend. Now wether he can beat jett or eli once he’s comfortable is another story, but no need to discredit chase as if he’s just making excuses. I’d say hes pretty hard on himself and realistic, and expects the same from the team. 

Bro, they are vitards.Comprehension is not high on their priority list.

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9/9/2024 6:56am

Chase to me is a modern KDub. Need to do work on his brain...not his bike. 

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I'm a Sexton fan but that sounds like an excuse because he couldnt beat jett this weekend. Because for weeks now hes been saying how good...

I'm a Sexton fan but that sounds like an excuse because he couldnt beat jett this weekend. Because for weeks now hes been saying how good his bike is and how ccomfortable he has been. But now he blames the bike once jett comes back and beats him again

That new KTM hasn't really worked well in Supercross yet. Not surprising that it didn't perform when they took it back to SX spec. 

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9/9/2024 9:16am
Frd03 wrote:
At the point he said “with the team” it can be inferred he is once again complaining about the bike. He could just simply say I ...

At the point he said “with the team” it can be inferred he is once again complaining about the bike. He could just simply say I have some work to do. 

MxAddic wrote:

If he is not happy with the suspension you think he can fix that without The Team?

Yeah man that’s the point him once again bitching about the bike, it’s the same story everytime he doesn’t win the bike sucks. Never hear AP, Vialle, Beaumer bitch about the ktm do ya

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9/9/2024 11:07am
I'm a Sexton fan but that sounds like an excuse because he couldnt beat jett this weekend. Because for weeks now hes been saying how good...

I'm a Sexton fan but that sounds like an excuse because he couldnt beat jett this weekend. Because for weeks now hes been saying how good his bike is and how ccomfortable he has been. But now he blames the bike once jett comes back and beats him again

BJR74 wrote:
It could be a reason as they do struggle to get a bike for that specific series, but, even if he did it's not the problem...

It could be a reason as they do struggle to get a bike for that specific series, but, even if he did it's not the problem, it because jet is faster, and Tomac is too, especially at that sort of track. 

jazza167 wrote:
You are wrong. Reading this thread proves a lot of you guys don’t realise how close these guys are…. Skill, fitness etc etc. Bike set up...

You are wrong. Reading this thread proves a lot of you guys don’t realise how close these guys are…. Skill, fitness etc etc. Bike set up is huge at this level, ktm hasn’t been dialled in for SX since the last gen frame, while his moto setup worked great for him they still have work to do getting him comfortable with Sx, (for those that don’t know a hugely different bike set up) it shouldn’t be that hard to comprehend. Now wether he can beat jett or eli once he’s comfortable is another story, but no need to discredit chase as if he’s just making excuses. I’d say hes pretty hard on himself and realistic, and expects the same from the team. 

Couldn't get the right bike set up on the Honda to beat Jett. Now can't get the right bike set up on the KTM even after they even went to KYB and who know what else to beat Jett. I agree, no way it is Sexton...has to be bike set up. 

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9/9/2024 12:28pm Edited Date/Time 9/9/2024 12:30pm

Jett had never even raced this bike before in his life lol, theres no chance in hell hes completely comfortable on a brand new bike hes only had 3 weeks on. If anyone should say theyre not there on the bike yet it would be jett. 

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9/9/2024 12:40pm Edited Date/Time 9/9/2024 12:41pm
BJR74 wrote:
It could be a reason as they do struggle to get a bike for that specific series, but, even if he did it's not the problem...

It could be a reason as they do struggle to get a bike for that specific series, but, even if he did it's not the problem, it because jet is faster, and Tomac is too, especially at that sort of track. 

jazza167 wrote:
You are wrong. Reading this thread proves a lot of you guys don’t realise how close these guys are…. Skill, fitness etc etc. Bike set up...

You are wrong. Reading this thread proves a lot of you guys don’t realise how close these guys are…. Skill, fitness etc etc. Bike set up is huge at this level, ktm hasn’t been dialled in for SX since the last gen frame, while his moto setup worked great for him they still have work to do getting him comfortable with Sx, (for those that don’t know a hugely different bike set up) it shouldn’t be that hard to comprehend. Now wether he can beat jett or eli once he’s comfortable is another story, but no need to discredit chase as if he’s just making excuses. I’d say hes pretty hard on himself and realistic, and expects the same from the team. 

mxracer106 wrote:
Couldn't get the right bike set up on the Honda to beat Jett. Now can't get the right bike set up on the KTM even after...

Couldn't get the right bike set up on the Honda to beat Jett. Now can't get the right bike set up on the KTM even after they even went to KYB and who know what else to beat Jett. I agree, no way it is Sexton...has to be bike set up. 

Reading comprehension is a good skill to have my friend 

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He said in the press he was struggling with the flat corners that had little traction or ruts. 

Texas looking to be a bit softer and not red clay. Hopefully he turns it around this weekend. 

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I'm a Sexton fan but that sounds like an excuse because he couldnt beat jett this weekend. Because for weeks now hes been saying how good...

I'm a Sexton fan but that sounds like an excuse because he couldnt beat jett this weekend. Because for weeks now hes been saying how good his bike is and how ccomfortable he has been. But now he blames the bike once jett comes back and beats him again

BJR74 wrote:
It could be a reason as they do struggle to get a bike for that specific series, but, even if he did it's not the problem...

It could be a reason as they do struggle to get a bike for that specific series, but, even if he did it's not the problem, it because jet is faster, and Tomac is too, especially at that sort of track. 

jazza167 wrote:
You are wrong. Reading this thread proves a lot of you guys don’t realise how close these guys are…. Skill, fitness etc etc. Bike set up...

You are wrong. Reading this thread proves a lot of you guys don’t realise how close these guys are…. Skill, fitness etc etc. Bike set up is huge at this level, ktm hasn’t been dialled in for SX since the last gen frame, while his moto setup worked great for him they still have work to do getting him comfortable with Sx, (for those that don’t know a hugely different bike set up) it shouldn’t be that hard to comprehend. Now wether he can beat jett or eli once he’s comfortable is another story, but no need to discredit chase as if he’s just making excuses. I’d say hes pretty hard on himself and realistic, and expects the same from the team. 

just watch, Chase will not beat Jet, no matter how many stories write. 

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9/9/2024 1:40pm
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Chase to me is a modern KDub. Need to do work on his brain...not his bike. 

Hasn't Kdub admitted he didn't really put the work in? Not so much that it was a mental thing like Chase.  

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9/9/2024 1:50pm

Never once have I thought that Chase looks completely at home on that bike. I understand that he won Supercross races and the MX title. But they have work to do. 

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9/9/2024 2:00pm Edited Date/Time 9/9/2024 2:02pm
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He struggled with sx set up all year.   The bike has suited him better outdoors than indoors so far.  Is what it is.  That's a...

He struggled with sx set up all year.   The bike has suited him better outdoors than indoors so far.  Is what it is.  That's a pretty common problem for riders to have throughout history.  

100% agree, But i guess in my mind, the difference is the Elite ones adapt to a bike during a race and make it work. Stew...

100% agree, But i guess in my mind, the difference is the Elite ones adapt to a bike during a race and make it work. Stew in the Yamaha days, Dungey at KTM etc..Its not like the bikes are all in transition across to a new era of modern dirtbikes like carburettors or 4 stroke to 2 stroke.

Considering Chase chose to go to a brand that has been designed by the MXGP team to suit outdoors. the talk from Webb prior about struggles of set up. 

You'd think Chase would of known these issue was going to happen. Big question is.. Does sexton renew his KTM contract?

 

Well that doesn't align with SMX last year where Jett said they missed the mark on settings. 

There isn't one rider in recent 10-15 years that could ride around a setup not being pretty much spot on. Not Dungey, not Stew, not even RC. Specially not last 10 years. That time went when 4-strokes entered. 

Jett as also off in outdoors and he spoke about it. Specially forks, that they later went back to last years setup. 

If there is one that maybe could be competitive, it's Jett. But he is also doing, statistic, that has never from what I know been seen in this sport. So can't really use him as benchmark. And again, he wasn't up to pair with the new fork or last years first SMX race. 

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9/9/2024 2:12pm

So you’re simply upset about something you inferred that  that he didn’t even actually say say or you’re upset about the way he phrased it. good grief.  

If he’s at the track working, the team is there next to him. That’s how it is

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9/9/2024 2:17pm

Didn't Chase win both motos in round one last year and then go on the podium and say it's because he was on his SX suspension that was soooo good?

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9/9/2024 2:34pm

Is it mental? Or do the mistakes come as he's trying to run a pace he can't run consistently? 

I’d say him trying to run a pace that he isn’t comfortable doing is 100% a mental error. 

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Why is it an error?  Why wouldn't he deliberately push himself to see if he can step up to Jett's level?  I mean it's not like...

Why is it an error?  Why wouldn't he deliberately push himself to see if he can step up to Jett's level?  I mean it's not like it's a huge gap.

You don't know your limits until you go past them.

Because when he deliberately pushes himself he tucks the front son…

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9/9/2024 2:51pm

I think never being satisfied and always pushing/striving to be better is a good quality in most people, racers included. 

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9/9/2024 2:51pm Edited Date/Time 9/9/2024 3:03pm
aees wrote:
Well that doesn't align with SMX last year where Jett said they missed the mark on settings. There isn't one rider in recent 10-15 years that could...

Well that doesn't align with SMX last year where Jett said they missed the mark on settings. 

There isn't one rider in recent 10-15 years that could ride around a setup not being pretty much spot on. Not Dungey, not Stew, not even RC. Specially not last 10 years. That time went when 4-strokes entered. 

Jett as also off in outdoors and he spoke about it. Specially forks, that they later went back to last years setup. 

If there is one that maybe could be competitive, it's Jett. But he is also doing, statistic, that has never from what I know been seen in this sport. So can't really use him as benchmark. And again, he wasn't up to pair with the new fork or last years first SMX race. 

Not one rider could ride around a less than perfect bike? Are you serious? What do you call THREE perfect MX seasons on these evil four-strokes?

What is your metric? If a guy wins motos on a bike that isn't perfect, what would you call that?

I'm a HUGE Sexton fan, but I think it's overwhelmingly mental with him. Jett has shown he can beat him, period. So Jett being on the gate changes things for Chase. There is no way it doesn't.

Is the bike perfect? No way. Is the bike good enough to beat Jett if Chase leaves the gate with the same confidence he has at the end of MX? I think so. 

Bike setup, especially going from MX to SX suspension, is deeper than it seems. The chassis reacts dramatically different to SX suspension, so it's not just an A/B decision and run it. That, coupled with the Wonderkid back on the gate, and the fragile confidence/ego is at risk.

I feel for Chase, as RC and Stew said on the Mashup pod, he's up against an all-timer. He's already surpassed Windham. The kid went toe to toe with an outdoor legend in Tomac in 2022.

The fact we hold him to such a high standard is proof of how good he is. 99.9% of riders would be applauded for what Chase has done, but his potential is so high, he's criticized for being beat by a legend and a phenom this past Saturday.

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9/9/2024 3:05pm

I think never being satisfied and always pushing/striving to be better is a good quality in most people, racers included. 

I've never hucked this 150ft gap before, they tell me trying to be better than last time is a good quality so I better give it a go. 😉

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