Only 31 riders?

The economy and fuel prices certainly doesn't help

This year they got rid of the semi qualifiers. Next year they will be able to get rid of the qualifers and lcq.

Its time for sx to have 1 class. Send 40 riders to the main. That would be fun to watch every week!

Nah they'll just have the same 20 guys race each week and then do freestyle. You know like monster trucks.

Ok then put 40 riders in the main and make it a 100 lap main event to fill the 60 minute Speed TV time slot.

[quote="teggers":1f8orfqz]In the 450F class.

Interesting.[/quote:1f8orfqz]

The result of yet another bonehead decision by the AMA. Talk about running a series into the ground.

[quote="teggers":ssac4lzb]In the 450F class.

Interesting.[/quote:ssac4lzb]Tim time for you to make the show come on out to Indy I'll put you up and wrench for you.

You shouldn't be allowed to race the SX class unless your bike is traveling in a semi trailer anyway, otherwise it ruins the fan experience.......

You cant have 40 riders with the new A.M.A rule about riding the 450 class.

[quote="flarider":3ivtuqzt]The economy and fuel prices certainly doesn't help[/quote:3ivtuqzt]

Lucky they aren't using more than 1 set of plastic or the big four would have to file bankrupcy.

[quote="teggers":2uhttop7]If Carsten hops on I-75 after the nain, he can be at Reddick by the morning and hit $3000 up for grabs.[/quote:2uhttop7]
lol you know barry huh? he usually rides daytona and drives straight through to get back for englishtowns season opener every year...its only about 20 or so hours

actually, barry carsten is in greensboro, nc at the arenacross riding the vet classes. i'm sure that some suzuki contingency money will help pay some of his expenses to atlanta. dirtbikemike

and 16 were on HONDA'S!!! GO RED!!! Yes, was at Atlanta with Hillbilly and was reading the rider lineup and noted the large number of Honda's. Noticed that also when in the pits. Hated to see the way the privateers with NO rig were treated, push the stuff in and get lined up against a wall somewhere. AMA needs to do something to keep the sport from dying out. Not used to looking a start gate that is not full at this large of an event.

I know a few fast pro's here on the westcoast that quit racing because of the "new" requirements for getting into SX. One was a former125 racer that was in the hunt for a championship a number of years back, last year he was denied entry into the 450 class. The others were young pros that couldn't afford to travel to the long distances to get to the required races and just threw in the towel. Would they have became stars of SX? Maybe, maybe not, I guess we will never know....

[quote="mxjef":l9fz3xlc]I know a few fast pro's here on the westcoast that quit racing because of the "new" requirements for getting into SX. One was a former125 racer that was in the hunt for a championship a number of years back, last year he was denied entry into the 450 class. The others were young pros that couldn't afford to travel to the long distances to get to the required races and just threw in the towel. Would they have became stars of SX? Maybe, maybe not, I guess we will never know....[/quote:l9fz3xlc]

A former 125 racer in the hunt for a championship has to start all over again to gain access into the SX class?
Sounds like a rider I know; but maybe not....Did he ride for FMF/Honda when they had their 125 team yrs ago?

Almost coming to a point where even zero points will give you a National number; if SX class with their low rider turnout and wonder how many will travel the Nationals since predictions are fuel will be min 3.50/gal and poss closer to $4....Especially since purse money doesn't even keep up with the cost of racing. Everyone knows Lites SX pay zero National Points.

There is always going to be that one rider, if had gotten the right breaks, could've been something. Do like John Dowd; become a legend at a later age, especially if they have the talent.

Look at your local races and see how many "experts" are there; most cases at least here, very few to none.

I have never met a Pro rider that had the gumption to go to a SX and ride in the night program that couldn't get up enough money to drive to the race.

[quote="Rallendude":3ix7szj1]I have never met a Pro rider that had the gumption to go to a SX and ride in the night program that couldn't get up enough money to drive to the race.[/quote:3ix7szj1]


I agree, when local guys could show up and try to qualify. But they were only doing a few of those races each season.....

[quote="dirtbikemike":qyswlj9a]actually, barry carsten is in greensboro, nc at the arenacross riding the vet classes. i'm sure that some suzuki contingency money will help pay some of his expenses to atlanta. dirtbikemike[/quote:qyswlj9a]

Barry almost had the start in the first heat! But he went face first into the sand turn berm on the outside.

How old is Barry like 82 now? Props to him.

The AMA is the best!

The new system is right, but it is new.
It needs time to cycle riders through it.
The AMA did make concessions on it this year, by allowing west lites riders to race big bikes, and some will do so when ready.
There are also a lot of riders eligible to race SX, but have chosen to race other things.

and I call 100% bullshit on this;
[quote:1j1tc032]"...One was a former125 racer that was in the hunt for a championship a number of years back, last year he was denied entry into the 450 class."[/quote:1j1tc032]

Riders who have previously raced SX and made night shows were grandfathered in, they do not have to earn an endorsement.
Something else was up, but it wasn't eligibility

Billy Payne had raced SX and done quite well. AMA denied his entry into the 450 class this year. Just saying.. Maybe his time away from racing came into play with AMA's decision. Although they did allow him is Pro license for 250's.

Someone should ask why, specifically.
In detail

[quote="Twizzler":378isqgq]Billy Payne had raced SX and done quite well. AMA denied his entry into the 450 class this year. Just saying.. Maybe his time away from racing came into play with AMA's decision. Although they did allow him is Pro license for 250's.[/quote:378isqgq]


The A.M.A is why you only had 31 riders. Change it back so people can DECIDE what class they want to ride. I don't have to graduate from the 250f class to the 450 class why are they making them? This only makes it more expensive and harder on the privater

[quote="Farva":1rya0435][quote="Twizzler":1rya0435]Billy Payne had raced SX and done quite well. AMA denied his entry into the 450 class this year. Just saying.. Maybe his time away from racing came into play with AMA's decision. Although they did allow him is Pro license for 250's.[/quote:1rya0435]


The A.M.A is why you only had 31 riders. Change it back so people can DECIDE what class they want to ride. I don't have to graduate from the 250f class to the 450 class why are they making them? This only makes it more expensive and harder on the privater[/quote:1rya0435]
You can't just show up and race MotoGP either

[quote="flarider":bgogqtc3][quote="Farva":bgogqtc3][quote="Twizzler":bgogqtc3]Billy Payne had raced SX and done quite well. AMA denied his entry into the 450 class this year. Just saying.. Maybe his time away from racing came into play with AMA's decision. Although they did allow him is Pro license for 250's.[/quote:bgogqtc3]


The A.M.A is why you only had 31 riders. Change it back so people can DECIDE what class they want to ride. I don't have to graduate from the 250f class to the 450 class why are they making them? This only makes it more expensive and harder on the privater[/quote:bgogqtc3]
You can't just show up and race MotoGP either[/quote:bgogqtc3]

Moto GP is a bit diffrent than MX is dave.

Is it?
Why?

It's pro road racing.

Did i miss something? what is with the 31 riders? A new rule?

[quote="oldfart":3jwvsq2s]No privateers necessary. This is pro racing at it's finest.[/quote:3jwvsq2s]
[quote="APLMAN":3jwvsq2s]You shouldn't be allowed to race the SX class unless your bike is traveling in a semi trailer anyway, otherwise it ruins the fan experience.......[/quote:3jwvsq2s]Congratulations,you two have managed to conjure up two of the dumbest things i've ever heard.(seriously)

[quote="flarider":21ghyen4]Someone should ask why, specifically.
In detail[/quote:21ghyen4]

Forget it Dave, you offered the real reason and everyone wants to blame AMA.

Look at all the guy's out of the 32 and tell me who in the USA would be beating them ?