Mathes thinks Deegan is bowing out of MXON Team USA

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7/25/2024 2:54am
soggy wrote:
He should have a bunch of opportunity too, if he doesn’t this year cause he wants to get the hardware out of his wrist I won’t...

He should have a bunch of opportunity too, if he doesn’t this year cause he wants to get the hardware out of his wrist I won’t hold it against him. 

 The hardware that does not exist?

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7/25/2024 3:04am
Boomslang wrote:
The doc needs to open his wrist up and remove  the hardware...he will need the time (2 weeks) to heal up properly. It's certainly not unpatriotic to...

The doc needs to open his wrist up and remove  the hardware...he will need the time (2 weeks) to heal up properly. 

It's certainly not unpatriotic to decline racing the MXoNs when he has valid reason for not going.

He is young and there is enough time to ride for the USA in the future.

Also, you guys have Kitchen who is a pretty good choice for team USA.

Kawi won’t support it, I think our only option for 250 is Hymas.

chasetwo79 wrote:
His knee is fucked. Surely he will want to rest right away and he may even need surgery and ride east coast. RJ is coming back next...

His knee is fucked. Surely he will want to rest right away and he may even need surgery and ride east coast. 

RJ is coming back next round I think. He is an option if his fitness and speed is back. 

It sucks that Kawi won’t support it. Anderson, Levi, and Ty are all good options for seats this year if they had the support. 

American fans should stop supporting Kawi. And absolutely tell them this is why.

How NOT to win over fans..

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Pshh talk about pressure to compete.  Seems Haiden is catching all sorts of BS.  https://youtube.com/shorts/_2AaiIzZd0E?si=A5B66vLvfiAhRpP-Do you believe Deegan should race Team USA this year or next...

Pshh talk about pressure to compete.  Seems Haiden is catching all sorts of BS.  

https://youtube.com/shorts/_2AaiIzZd0E?si=A5B66vLvfiAhRpP-

Do you believe Deegan should race Team USA this year or next year when it’s in America?


 

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Don't go around bragging about how American you are then puss out when its time to represent your country. That is weak AF.  

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7/25/2024 3:39am Edited Date/Time 7/25/2024 3:40am

Maybe he has decided on a dicktiotomy? He sure as hell could use one.

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7/25/2024 3:46am

Everyone complaining of the cost  for the US riders, its a valid point but think of the smaller nations that manage to go to every single MXDN with a tiny fraction of the support the US team has, A fraction of the bank accounts the riders have and do what they can to represent their country. 

US riders are the best paid in the world, so if other nations manage to bring a team then the US should have no problem doing so. 

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7/25/2024 3:54am

Removing hardware after SMX. 
Might attend MXoN as a team member not a rider. 
There everyone is happy. 

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7/25/2024 4:00am

Let him call Tanel Leok. Would still race for his country with 1 leg and 1 arm.

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No, only the Luongo ( or however you spell their name) family mafia gets paid. They barely pay travel fees to teams to get to the...

No, only the Luongo ( or however you spell their name) family mafia gets paid. They barely pay travel fees to teams to get to the event. All you fuckers that have shit on Davey Combs the past few weeks really need to reevaluate your position if you're going to shit on riders that don't want to attend and how promoters run things. This is the biggest race fan wise for attendence and no one makes a dime but the real Mafia family the Luongo's. Like Gravel said Donnie Hansen went over there for pride and lost it all for what? He was on the poised to being one of the biggest superstars in our sport and it ended because of this event which gave him nothing in return.

Donnie could have got injured at any race! That’s weak argument. 

True, but my point was that he got hurt at a race that doesn't benefit the riders financially at all and actually costs them money. 

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7/25/2024 4:53am
johnnymf0 wrote:
No, only the Luongo ( or however you spell their name) family mafia gets paid. They barely pay travel fees to teams to get to the...

No, only the Luongo ( or however you spell their name) family mafia gets paid. They barely pay travel fees to teams to get to the event. All you fuckers that have shit on Davey Combs the past few weeks really need to reevaluate your position if you're going to shit on riders that don't want to attend and how promoters run things. This is the biggest race fan wise for attendence and no one makes a dime but the real Mafia family the Luongo's. Like Gravel said Donnie Hansen went over there for pride and lost it all for what? He was on the poised to being one of the biggest superstars in our sport and it ended because of this event which gave him nothing in return.

Donnie could have got injured at any race! That’s weak argument. 

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True, but my point was that he got hurt at a race that doesn't benefit the riders financially at all and actually costs them money. 

I don’t think Luongo was running the GPs when Donnie got injured. Maybe he wanted to race for national pride & just so happen to get injured whilst training for it. 

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American riders make more money per weekend than what other nations teams spend to race. Why does it always have to be about the money?
Yes I would agree that they shouldnt have to spend too much of their own money, but do they really have to make money while representing your country that ONE time each year?

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johnnymf0 wrote:
No, only the Luongo ( or however you spell their name) family mafia gets paid. They barely pay travel fees to teams to get to the...

No, only the Luongo ( or however you spell their name) family mafia gets paid. They barely pay travel fees to teams to get to the event. All you fuckers that have shit on Davey Combs the past few weeks really need to reevaluate your position if you're going to shit on riders that don't want to attend and how promoters run things. This is the biggest race fan wise for attendence and no one makes a dime but the real Mafia family the Luongo's. Like Gravel said Donnie Hansen went over there for pride and lost it all for what? He was on the poised to being one of the biggest superstars in our sport and it ended because of this event which gave him nothing in return.

Donnie could have got injured at any race! That’s weak argument. 

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True, but my point was that he got hurt at a race that doesn't benefit the riders financially at all and actually costs them money. 

He wouldn't have been any less hurt had he been paid for the race. You're right that riders don't benefit financially but they benefit in other ways, like being given the opportunity to represent their country. It's a myth that it costs them money and it comes up every year.

 

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7/25/2024 5:13am

Steve takes every chance he can to take a dig at Deegan. 

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Gravel wrote:
Do the riders get paid for the MXoN? I’m as patriotic as anyone, but I understand not working for free.. How many more years would Donnie Hansen...

Do the riders get paid for the MXoN? I’m as patriotic as anyone, but I understand not working for free.. 

How many more years would Donnie Hansen have been on top if it wasn’t for his MXoN related injury?

From what I understand the whole trip is pretty much on their dime.

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Maybe he has decided on a dicktiotomy? He sure as hell could use one.

They are gonna put a hole in it?

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Gravel wrote:
Do the riders get paid for the MXoN? I’m as patriotic as anyone, but I understand not working for free.. How many more years would Donnie Hansen...

Do the riders get paid for the MXoN? I’m as patriotic as anyone, but I understand not working for free.. 

How many more years would Donnie Hansen have been on top if it wasn’t for his MXoN related injury?

You’re not as patriotic as you think then. 

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Elliot wrote:
He wouldn't have been any less hurt had he been paid for the race. You're right that riders don't benefit financially but they benefit in other...

He wouldn't have been any less hurt had he been paid for the race. You're right that riders don't benefit financially but they benefit in other ways, like being given the opportunity to represent their country. It's a myth that it costs them money and it comes up every year.

 

RJ said a number on Pulp how much it cost him to go to France. Then again that number could probably have been cut in to half since the US team always have half the country with them when mxdn is held at european ground.


 

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@ ML512 Do we have any actuall proof of American Kawi don’t supporting the MXDN? Or is it just a cover up they did in the Tomac years the same way Star took the bullet for Danger Boy last year?.

Fans always bring up that American Kawasaki won’t support it but they did support it the last time Tomac wanted to race it. 

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7/25/2024 6:15am

I heard LungButter was going to take his place. Deegs needed some mom time that week. Lungbutter could smoke any of the current 250 lineup right now, outside of his son deegan. 

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7/25/2024 6:25am Edited Date/Time 7/25/2024 6:26am
johnnymf0 wrote:

True, but my point was that he got hurt at a race that doesn't benefit the riders financially at all and actually costs them money. 

He wasn't at the MXdN / TdN !

He'd gone over to Sweden for a 250 GP, winning it with a 1:1, and then crashed while practicing at Rolf Diffenbachs (sp?) private track, before either event.

For f**ks sake, learn some True MX history, before you write the entirely wrong thing.

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a lot of you will never get it........its out of your world !!!!

 this race is to unite the world of motocross in one event, this is the only race in the world that is about the "TEAM", which means about quality of the nations racers, the quality of the national series and youth program.......

this is the race to race for your colors and give back to all that in some way helped, and allowed you to have the possibility to grow and be a top racer.....you race for your country !!!!!!!! thats why it is patriotic......thats why you raise the flag !!!!!!

if racers get paid or not, its up to their national federation to decide, they are the "TEAM", they get the trophy, the traveling help, the prizemoney and they also are who pays the entry fee......yes the teams get financial help for traveling expenses and prizemoney, but its the same for every country, all alike, its enough for some, others put more in, some just want to participate, others want to win.......but its always up to the national federation, AMA in case of usa, to manage team usa, as is the FFM in case of france or the FPM in case of portugal, etc....

even the crowds are in the same spirit, its all about the color of your country, thats why it is special !!!!!! thats why anyone has seen here on vital, that this race, be it in america or europe, is always a fan favorite ....

 

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@ ML512 Do we have any actuall proof of American Kawi don’t supporting the MXDN? Or is it just a cover up they did in the...

@ ML512 Do we have any actuall proof of American Kawi don’t supporting the MXDN? Or is it just a cover up they did in the Tomac years the same way Star took the bullet for Danger Boy last year?.

Fans always bring up that American Kawasaki won’t support it but they did support it the last time Tomac wanted to race it. 

It would have been nice to have Anderson last year instead of Craig, but Kawasaki . . .

Here is a quote from DC in Racerhead last year:

"And Kawasaki seems to have reached a point where they are not sending anyone either, despite both Jason Anderson and Adam Cianciarulo both being healthy, as well as the 250 riders on the Monster Energy/Pro Circuit Kawasaki squad. Kawasaki's problem appears to be threefold: the FIM, the cost of sending their riders and mechanics and engineers, and what appears to be some reluctance with working so closely with Team USA Manager Roger De Coster."

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Paging donm.      ........

If this rumor is true then I'll be very disappointed but at this point it's just a rumor so no need to over react like so many others feel like they need to...

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7/25/2024 6:58am
Boomslang wrote:
The doc needs to open his wrist up and remove  the hardware...he will need the time (2 weeks) to heal up properly. It's certainly not unpatriotic to...

The doc needs to open his wrist up and remove  the hardware...he will need the time (2 weeks) to heal up properly. 

It's certainly not unpatriotic to decline racing the MXoNs when he has valid reason for not going.

He is young and there is enough time to ride for the USA in the future.

Also, you guys have Kitchen who is a pretty good choice for team USA.

Kawi won’t support it, I think our only option for 250 is Hymas.

chasetwo79 wrote:
His knee is fucked. Surely he will want to rest right away and he may even need surgery and ride east coast. RJ is coming back next...

His knee is fucked. Surely he will want to rest right away and he may even need surgery and ride east coast. 

RJ is coming back next round I think. He is an option if his fitness and speed is back. 

It sucks that Kawi won’t support it. Anderson, Levi, and Ty are all good options for seats this year if they had the support. 

Yeah I thought of Hymas, too. His ACL is torn from what they say.  I would imagine hes getting some kind of work done to it. Bummer. We could have a team that could win this year

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I feel the same way about this as I did when Stew was on a 125, I want Deegs to go and throw down.

Stew is a slightly different circumstance cause 02 was effed and 03 was open bikes only, but man he would have been cool to watch over there. 

I hope Deegan chooses to go and then takes some time in October to heal up and get ready for ‘25

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We should send Profesh on his CR125

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7/25/2024 7:14am
Gravel wrote:
Do the riders get paid for the MXoN? I’m as patriotic as anyone, but I understand not working for free.. How many more years would Donnie Hansen...

Do the riders get paid for the MXoN? I’m as patriotic as anyone, but I understand not working for free.. 

How many more years would Donnie Hansen have been on top if it wasn’t for his MXoN related injury?

Using that logic, I'm guessing the US riders won't want to ride when it's held on home soil either if it's down to not getting paid..?

This whole "it's down to the money" excuse is getting pretty tired, coming from the same market that tells us how everyone round the world wants to ride in the US series because it's swimming in money. Money was never an issue when a win was almost guaranteed every year for nearly two decades..

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We should send Profesh on his CR125

The double boost port tara geiger loretta lynn's spec CR125 deserves to be showcased

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They are gonna put a hole in it?

Do you know of any other way to let some of the dik out of Ya?

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7/25/2024 7:47am

So Vialle will go over and smoke the 250 class again after Haiden beat him straight up in the nationals. 

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