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Bro… wtf did you just say?
My point is this, most guys that post here think that pros are phenomenal athletes, they’re not. Some are phenomenal endurance athletes, which imo is different. The butt hurt that causes is laughable.
The slow lineman are in the 5:30 range. I’d say that pretty damn fast for a 350 pound man that benches 375 pounds.
I agree Martin, and Tomac both are incredible endurance athletes, they’d both probably do well in cycling.
Sexton will never be able to run or jump like Bolt, but I’d bet a million dollars Bolt could train to get his heart rate there.
Bro, let me dumb it down for you, pro riders are not very athletic, but some are in great shape.
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Wtf do you think marathon winners are?? GREAT ATHLETES! Idk why you think elite stamina and cardiovascular performance aren't athletic traits but they are. So are elite reflexes and hand-eye coordination which pro racers absolutely have (Lewis Hamilton is #19 on the list for fuck's sake...Michael Schumacher is #29)
Your argument makes no sense whatsoever
Yeah, I think we all get what you're saying.
This post is about ESPN's list, however, which includes golfers and car drivers. If they're being counted as "athletes" by ESPN, I'd think motocross racers would qualify.
Clearly you have never paid aattention to swimming. Phelps topping this list is 100% accurate.
The fact there is no one from moto on this list, is a shame.
lol again how do you define top athlete? Phlelps killed it during his time. Destroyed it. 3 times over 12 years.
Messi destroyed soccer records year after year for 10+ years. 60 + games a season.
Peaking at the right time is incredible. Peaking day in and day out for 10+ years… tell me you know nothing about sports.
Most people don’t look at long distance runners as great athletes, they look at them as guys who run a lot.
I don’t think Hamilton or Schumacher should be on a list of great athletes either. They’re fit for sure, but not athletic.
Here’s the thing, if the majority of Americans put in the work, they could be every bit as fit as a guy like Deegan, but they will never run a 4:3 40, or dunk a basketball.
Yes, there are some outliers, JMart, and Eli that are just cardio freaks, and maybe there is more guys like RJ Hampshire who is actually a decent athlete, but most are just average guys who are fast on a motorcycle.
They gave Ryan Dungey a Wheaties box. If you eat your Wheaties doesn’t that mean something about your level of sports badass? He’s even standing on his bike and riding it like that girl on YouTube from France lezitow can do. I thought they’d consider that top 100 worthy. Some may make the list as sports heroes or good guys as fan favorites. Popularity scores but Brady is a pretty boy whiner cheater even if he won he and the juiced steroid guys should get disqualified. There are other players that sacrificed more than just a quarterback. Lebron seems like more of an athlete than Shaq and Kobe goes ahead of him as a student of the game and not just a big man post up. I can see Jeter there putting up big career numbers. Pastrana contributed a lot and would be my pic to represent moto too as a multi sport special feature if they count car racing. He even did big buck. Ambassador list. Golf is a swing sport taking certain skills at an elite level but I wouldn’t put stuff like chess on there as a last resort with no physical activity. I was surprised Ronaldo didn’t score higher as claimed one of the best but I don’t follow soccer. The best physical athlete for that sport and most medal theory goes to Phelps but I like the hero idea of Biles going big and performing when needed. McGrath was 90’s to 2000 and could have made the list if he started later with his popularity and record.
Bro, you're gonna need to define what you view what an athlete is because all you keep doing is pointing to stick and ball sports as the only people that could possibly be athletic.
That first paragraph is one of the more ignorant statements I've seen on this forum. The top marathon runners have endurance that regular people could never achieve no matter how much they trained. They are athletic freaks. You really don't have a clue what you're talking about dude
Well said Natedawg
The way I read it, just big guys that can run and jump. I wonder if he doesn't feel some kinda way for Big Lenny... Not that there's anything wrong with that. I just doubt that Big reciprocates.
On a serious note. Nobody in the NBA ever bragged on Larry Bird's 'athleticism'. But somehow, he got the work done.
And 72
All that list is, is a popularity contest. Simple as that. Fuck espn.
ESPN would put Caitlin Clark ahead of RC
Yup. Ricky is literally the person that the term GOAT was created for. Matt Walker read an article that called Ricky the “Greatest Of All Time” and he saw GOAT so started calling him the goat. 20 years later that term is used everywhere.
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This. I stopped scrolling after i saw that.
But to be fair, i think these lists are made in purpose like this so that they generate clicks and buzz. That is why you can't take it seriously in any manner.
It's ridiculous. Any discussion of the greatest athletes of the 21st century - if the metric is purely performance overall, not performance within a particular demographic - would not include a single women.
For example: The Australian women's football team (soccer) went down 7-0 to a Newcastle Jets male under-15 side.
'Every year, in pretty much every athletic event, men break the women’s world record thousands of times. The fastest time ever run by Allyson
Felix, the women’s 400-metre Olympic champion, is beaten more than 15,000 times each year by men and boys'.
In interviews Serena Williams said herself that people (specially woke feminists) are delusional if they think women have any slight chance against men. There was a video going around a couple years ago where a feminist was saying most women sports are fairly competitive and some men would struggle against Serena for example. Serena responded to that with "Andy Murray would beat me 6:0 6:0 in 5 to 6 minutes, women's and men's tennis are two different sports".
It's funny, the only people that really believe that are people that never did any sports themselves.
Also didn't want to offend anyone by putting up a ESPN link. Obviously that list is more like a meme. Just thought it could encourage to some fun discussions.
You used the perfect word, sports hero’s. You can be bad ass at a particular sport, but not be athletic. I’m buddies with a guy who was on the PBA tour, has multiple 300 games, not an athletic bone in his body, but he’s fit. John Force is in his 70s and still competitive at his “sport”, but he’s no athlete.
I’d say that all QBs are pretty athletic, but only two or three of them are great athletes. I think Lebron, as much as I dislike him is a great athlete, but I think Kobe was better.
I agree with pretty much everything you’re saying. I think if you’re going to have a list like this, it has to say greatest sports hero’s, not the best athletes, 2 different thing.
Soccer, great athletes. Baseball, a lot of great athletes. Football, a lot of great athletes. Basketball, all great athletes. Top track and field, all great athletes.
Motocross, guy in really good shape.
overall scheme of things ur absolutely right but I feel there’s certain guys in moto tht can translate to other sports , jmart , Benny bloss for his body build def can make a good O or defensive lineman , chase & even RJ , if I’m not mistaken RJ played baseball while he was in AMs wasent he 🤔
Define sport, first. What makes basketball a sport and not a game? Where does motocross land on your scale? Secondly, define athlete. You say soccer players are athletes. Messi is 5'7". He is the best that ever did it. Do you think he can dunk a basketball? Dustin Johnson can dunk a basketball. Is he a better athlete than Messi? Than Sexton?
Personally I think you're a troll. And a dang good one at that!
Motocross is the biggest little sport in the world.
😂😂 not even close
Anyone can be a runner if they want is one point but then only certain people can be winning level and it’s not about being a talented athlete always since a lot of guys from Kenya win marathons kind of like how Phelps has a freak body that allows him to swim like a fish.
They should compare sports on skill and not body anatomy bred to be a champ.
Basketball could be another anatomy genetics game. If you are 7 feet tall chances are they may ask you to play and jump shot close to the basket over others or just dunk all the time. They may not be so great unless they have the height advantage.
RC is on the same level as Michel Jordan and Tiger Woods IMO. RC was a beast.
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