Hymas/Deegan Start Takeout

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DonM wrote:

Exactly how I saw it.....If it were any other rider this wouldn't even be discussed....

Farmer J wrote:
They show it in the broadcast replay at 3:40. The exhaust is still bent out after he kicks it. He gets on the bike then the...

They show it in the broadcast replay at 3:40. The exhaust is still bent out after he kicks it. He gets on the bike then the mechanic starts fixing the exhaust. Its the little things like this and he can have his dad and mechanic at the gate 2 people when other guys and teams can't. Would he still be the points leader yes but the favoritism has shown his whole time racing. 

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Starts fixing it? did he pull out a hammer?...no he tried a couple of feeble slaps with his hand that did absolutely nothing...like I said if...

Starts fixing it? did he pull out a hammer?...no he tried a couple of feeble slaps with his hand that did absolutely nothing...like I said if it were any other rider none of you would have even noticed much less say a word...

Yes he started fixing it. That qualifies as fixing it, you don't need tools. What matters is we noticed and nothing happened. I would call out any other rider, I have no reason not to. 

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Is this the thread where the dude was saying Deegan got favoritism because the Star Yamaha employee helped him and didn't help other riders? 

That kind of dumbfuckery is all that needs to be said about the snowflake Deegan haters.

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7/16/2024 11:35am

So it's ok for Deegan to cut across and take out half the field in supercross, but he gets all bent out of shape if someone has the audacity to cut him off?

Petulant little brat.

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7/16/2024 11:42am Edited Date/Time 7/16/2024 12:15pm
Yeah my post wasn't directed at you, it was the other two guys who were seeing so much red they didn't actually read and understand my...

Yeah my post wasn't directed at you, it was the other two guys who were seeing so much red they didn't actually read and understand my post.  Both of them responded as if I said Chance cutover on him, but, for those who read my post they would understand I said just the opposite.  

I asked why Chance dabbed his foot and now I know, it's because he said he was falling.  Got it.  Anyone have a link to the replay?  It will take me more than 15 seconds to load peacock and scroll to the incident, and I really don't care enough to do that unless someone else posted it somewhere. 

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You don't have to look hard the replay is in the first post in this thread

I'm back at the desk now and just watched it.  Racing incident, wasn't intentional, and I don't agree with Deegan speaking out on it.  So as...

I'm back at the desk now and just watched it.  Racing incident, wasn't intentional, and I don't agree with Deegan speaking out on it.  So as for my previous post this image below just solidifies it. From Deegan's perspective, Chance did ride him tight (he has every right to) and Deegan just didn't like to be challenged as he feels there was plenty of room.  The reason we are all talking about this is because while Chance was pinching him he lost the front end, which made it look intentional from Deegan's seat, and it resulted in a huge crash for Deegan.  This is where Haiden is coming from, even if we all don't agree with his comments.  

 

That is an unfair snapshot in time imo.  Chance was taking a totally normal line to turn one.  As he started to turn the dirt was loose enough he started to wash the bike and in an instant you turn the wheel inside, your snapshot, and put your foot down to keep from going down.  It’s a twitch reflex and that is why you need the video vs a snapshot.  The bikes were already where they were.  He wasn’t cutting down.  He was trying to save it from the loose dirt.  If you watch the video you see Casey, outside of them, and pretty much every rider, do the same thing.  Haiden was super tight, probably to rub/make contact, and a 100% racing incident happened.  Haiden’s comment are so beyond stupid that people trying to justify him saying it just makes them look like blind fanboys.

….sidenote.  Before the gate drop looking at the track on the TV coverage I saw the combo of wet and loose dirt and posted this “Prediction…carnage in turn 1.” about a minute before the gate drop knowing what that dirt would be like with guys diving into the first turn. 

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7/16/2024 11:48am
Moto Braap wrote:
I misread it as “I can’t wait to try that stick move at my local race” as if you would bring a stick to jam in...

I misread it as “I can’t wait to try that stick move at my local race” as if you would bring a stick to jam in someone’s tire instead of your foot after coming off major knee surgery like Chance did.

He is not coming off surgery. He is riding with it blown out.

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7/16/2024 11:52am
GrapeApe wrote:

You don't have to look hard the replay is in the first post in this thread

I'm back at the desk now and just watched it.  Racing incident, wasn't intentional, and I don't agree with Deegan speaking out on it.  So as...

I'm back at the desk now and just watched it.  Racing incident, wasn't intentional, and I don't agree with Deegan speaking out on it.  So as for my previous post this image below just solidifies it. From Deegan's perspective, Chance did ride him tight (he has every right to) and Deegan just didn't like to be challenged as he feels there was plenty of room.  The reason we are all talking about this is because while Chance was pinching him he lost the front end, which made it look intentional from Deegan's seat, and it resulted in a huge crash for Deegan.  This is where Haiden is coming from, even if we all don't agree with his comments.  

 

Shred wrote:
That is an unfair snapshot in time imo.  Chance was taking a totally normal line to turn one.  As he started to turn the dirt was...

That is an unfair snapshot in time imo.  Chance was taking a totally normal line to turn one.  As he started to turn the dirt was loose enough he started to wash the bike and in an instant you turn the wheel inside, your snapshot, and put your foot down to keep from going down.  It’s a twitch reflex and that is why you need the video vs a snapshot.  The bikes were already where they were.  He wasn’t cutting down.  He was trying to save it from the loose dirt.  If you watch the video you see Casey, outside of them, and pretty much every rider, do the same thing.  Haiden was super tight, probably to rub/make contact, and a 100% racing incident happened.  Haiden’s comment are so beyond stupid that people trying to justify him saying it just makes them look like blind fanboys.

….sidenote.  Before the gate drop looking at the track on the TV coverage I saw the combo of wet and loose dirt and posted this “Prediction…carnage in turn 1.” about a minute before the gate drop knowing what that dirt would be like with guys diving into the first turn. 

Hahahaha, unfair snapshot....did you just say unfair snapshot!?!?!  I guess this makes you a little blind Hymas fanboy then since you are denying the facts presented with proof?

Try to separate your emotions from it and view it as is.  You couldn't even get through my original post without responding and claiming that I said something I didn't, and then proceeded to tell me I don't ride, etc.  The fact is, my assumption was correct and the photo shows exactly that.  You can decide to accept them or not, but I doubt you will because you are seeing red as a Deegan hater or a Hymas blind fanboy as you call it.  Don't let emotions get the best of you, it limits your ceiling in life.  Some people are fans of all riders, and can see things from both sides.  

One thing we can agree on is that Deegan should keep his words to himself.  He would generate a lot less hate from people like you and maybe gain more fans like others have said above.  But that's his decision, and like I said earlier by talking smack he's digging a deep deep hole for all the haters to pile onto the minute he goes down.  It's all too predictable.

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7/16/2024 11:53am
Moto Braap wrote:
Based on physics some pro could argue that Chance cut down hard that caused him to need to foot dab so yes Chance is not 100%...

Based on physics some pro could argue that Chance cut down hard that caused him to need to foot dab so yes Chance is not 100% innocent.  The leader has the right to control the line like Deegan confessed but Chance may have been too aggressive to pinch him off.

Is that not the very definition of a racing incident?

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7/16/2024 11:54am Edited Date/Time 7/16/2024 12:19pm

I just posted the sequence of photos I took of the incident on IG. I don't know how to embed an IG post on here, so if anyone wants to see it and toss it on here, it's under troyfisher123 on IG.

 

 

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T-Fish wrote:
I just posted the sequence of photos I took of the incident on IG. I don't know how to embed an IG post on here, so...

I just posted the sequence of photos I took of the incident on IG. I don't know how to embed an IG post on here, so if anyone wants to see it and toss it on here, it's under troyfisher123 on IG.

 

 

For future reference, click the three dots on the top right of IG.  Select embed.  Hit "copy embed code".  Then select the Youtube looking icon on vital to upload a video.  And then paste the embed code into the field.  Deegan is so lucky again.  He's taken so many scary diggers this year.  Did you capture the part just before when the contact was made?

 

 

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7/16/2024 12:20pm Edited Date/Time 7/16/2024 12:23pm
I'm back at the desk now and just watched it.  Racing incident, wasn't intentional, and I don't agree with Deegan speaking out on it.  So as...

I'm back at the desk now and just watched it.  Racing incident, wasn't intentional, and I don't agree with Deegan speaking out on it.  So as for my previous post this image below just solidifies it. From Deegan's perspective, Chance did ride him tight (he has every right to) and Deegan just didn't like to be challenged as he feels there was plenty of room.  The reason we are all talking about this is because while Chance was pinching him he lost the front end, which made it look intentional from Deegan's seat, and it resulted in a huge crash for Deegan.  This is where Haiden is coming from, even if we all don't agree with his comments.  

 

Shred wrote:
That is an unfair snapshot in time imo.  Chance was taking a totally normal line to turn one.  As he started to turn the dirt was...

That is an unfair snapshot in time imo.  Chance was taking a totally normal line to turn one.  As he started to turn the dirt was loose enough he started to wash the bike and in an instant you turn the wheel inside, your snapshot, and put your foot down to keep from going down.  It’s a twitch reflex and that is why you need the video vs a snapshot.  The bikes were already where they were.  He wasn’t cutting down.  He was trying to save it from the loose dirt.  If you watch the video you see Casey, outside of them, and pretty much every rider, do the same thing.  Haiden was super tight, probably to rub/make contact, and a 100% racing incident happened.  Haiden’s comment are so beyond stupid that people trying to justify him saying it just makes them look like blind fanboys.

….sidenote.  Before the gate drop looking at the track on the TV coverage I saw the combo of wet and loose dirt and posted this “Prediction…carnage in turn 1.” about a minute before the gate drop knowing what that dirt would be like with guys diving into the first turn. 

Hahahaha, unfair snapshot....did you just say unfair snapshot!?!?!  I guess this makes you a little blind Hymas fanboy then since you are denying the facts presented...

Hahahaha, unfair snapshot....did you just say unfair snapshot!?!?!  I guess this makes you a little blind Hymas fanboy then since you are denying the facts presented with proof?

Try to separate your emotions from it and view it as is.  You couldn't even get through my original post without responding and claiming that I said something I didn't, and then proceeded to tell me I don't ride, etc.  The fact is, my assumption was correct and the photo shows exactly that.  You can decide to accept them or not, but I doubt you will because you are seeing red as a Deegan hater or a Hymas blind fanboy as you call it.  Don't let emotions get the best of you, it limits your ceiling in life.  Some people are fans of all riders, and can see things from both sides.  

One thing we can agree on is that Deegan should keep his words to himself.  He would generate a lot less hate from people like you and maybe gain more fans like others have said above.  But that's his decision, and like I said earlier by talking smack he's digging a deep deep hole for all the haters to pile onto the minute he goes down.  It's all too predictable.

Actually…not really a Hymas fan.  I said unfair snapshot because it is one millisecond in time.  Watch the video and you see a normal line until he feels the bike start to wash.  Then he does what any rider would do to try to save it.  Turn the wheel down and put your foot down.  You use the snapshot as if he were turning there vs saving a wash.  Deegan was already tight when he had that reaction to keep from going down.  Video almost always tell a story better then a still frame.  You could take the picture right above ^ this post and say…see…Hymas wasn’t turning his wheel in.  But if you watch the video you get the real story.  And the questioning if you ride is because you ask questions any racer would know like why did he put his foot down…in a turn.

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T-Fish wrote:
I just posted the sequence of photos I took of the incident on IG. I don't know how to embed an IG post on here, so...

I just posted the sequence of photos I took of the incident on IG. I don't know how to embed an IG post on here, so if anyone wants to see it and toss it on here, it's under troyfisher123 on IG.

 

 

For future reference, click the three dots on the top right of IG.  Select embed.  Hit "copy embed code".  Then select the Youtube looking icon on...

For future reference, click the three dots on the top right of IG.  Select embed.  Hit "copy embed code".  Then select the Youtube looking icon on vital to upload a video.  And then paste the embed code into the field.  Deegan is so lucky again.  He's taken so many scary diggers this year.  Did you capture the part just before when the contact was made?

 

 

No, unfortunately that first frame is the first one I was able to get of it. They come into view at such a high speed there! I'm pretty sure I heard the announcer say something about Cochrane being out front, so he was who I was focused on initially. As soon as I saw he wasn't grabbing the holeshot, I released the shutter and had to grab focus of Hymas and Deegan.  

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7/16/2024 12:27pm
vdrsnk04 wrote:

Are we serious here dude? His foot dabbed in mud and stuck and it sent his leg back.
 

Dumbgeon worthy post for sure. 

OP is right. Why so hostile? It was an accident.

Because the OP, as well as young Deegs seem to be insinuating this was a takeout move by Hymas.   The latter going so far as...

Because the OP, as well as young Deegs seem to be insinuating this was a takeout move by Hymas.   The latter going so far as to say there will be retribution.  

"Dirty Deegs done dirt cheap! Arrrgh!" 

If I'm on the team, there's no way that's not gonna be his intro song!

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Shred wrote:
That is an unfair snapshot in time imo.  Chance was taking a totally normal line to turn one.  As he started to turn the dirt was...

That is an unfair snapshot in time imo.  Chance was taking a totally normal line to turn one.  As he started to turn the dirt was loose enough he started to wash the bike and in an instant you turn the wheel inside, your snapshot, and put your foot down to keep from going down.  It’s a twitch reflex and that is why you need the video vs a snapshot.  The bikes were already where they were.  He wasn’t cutting down.  He was trying to save it from the loose dirt.  If you watch the video you see Casey, outside of them, and pretty much every rider, do the same thing.  Haiden was super tight, probably to rub/make contact, and a 100% racing incident happened.  Haiden’s comment are so beyond stupid that people trying to justify him saying it just makes them look like blind fanboys.

….sidenote.  Before the gate drop looking at the track on the TV coverage I saw the combo of wet and loose dirt and posted this “Prediction…carnage in turn 1.” about a minute before the gate drop knowing what that dirt would be like with guys diving into the first turn. 

Hahahaha, unfair snapshot....did you just say unfair snapshot!?!?!  I guess this makes you a little blind Hymas fanboy then since you are denying the facts presented...

Hahahaha, unfair snapshot....did you just say unfair snapshot!?!?!  I guess this makes you a little blind Hymas fanboy then since you are denying the facts presented with proof?

Try to separate your emotions from it and view it as is.  You couldn't even get through my original post without responding and claiming that I said something I didn't, and then proceeded to tell me I don't ride, etc.  The fact is, my assumption was correct and the photo shows exactly that.  You can decide to accept them or not, but I doubt you will because you are seeing red as a Deegan hater or a Hymas blind fanboy as you call it.  Don't let emotions get the best of you, it limits your ceiling in life.  Some people are fans of all riders, and can see things from both sides.  

One thing we can agree on is that Deegan should keep his words to himself.  He would generate a lot less hate from people like you and maybe gain more fans like others have said above.  But that's his decision, and like I said earlier by talking smack he's digging a deep deep hole for all the haters to pile onto the minute he goes down.  It's all too predictable.

Shred wrote:
Actually…not really a Hymas fan.  I said unfair snapshot because it is one millisecond in time.  Watch the video and you see a normal line until...

Actually…not really a Hymas fan.  I said unfair snapshot because it is one millisecond in time.  Watch the video and you see a normal line until he feels the bike start to wash.  Then he does what any rider would do to try to save it.  Turn the wheel down and put your foot down.  You use the snapshot as if he were turning there vs saving a wash.  Deegan was already tight when he had that reaction to keep from going down.  Video almost always tell a story better then a still frame.  You could take the picture right above ^ this post and say…see…Hymas wasn’t turning his wheel in.  But if you watch the video you get the real story.  And the questioning if you ride is because you ask questions any racer would know like why did he put his foot down…in a turn.

If you would read my posts you would see I'm agreeing that Chance did not cut down intentionally.  But, he made a mistake and lost the front which caused him to cut down accidentally, which caused the crash.  And this is what Deegan saw from his view.  Chance did nothing wrong but it was his choice to pinch Deegan before he made the mistake.  Deegan didn't like it.  No one likes to be raced hard and pinched, but when it results in a hard crash it's hard for him to contain his words.  That's why this discussion exists.  No crash = no discussion.

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7/16/2024 2:37pm Edited Date/Time 7/16/2024 2:38pm
I believe this was a racing incident and haiden jumped the gun and didn't think before he talked once again.   One thing I've noticed he...

I believe this was a racing incident and haiden jumped the gun and didn't think before he talked once again.

 

One thing I've noticed he doesn't target everyone he's only done it to Hymas and Hammaker(rightfully so).

Something tells me something had happened between the two in the past because Deegz took a dig at Hymas earlier in the year for basically nothing.

It's petty but he gets us talking.

I heard him and hymas have had their run ins in amateurs, same with deegs and cochran.

Didn't hear about Hymas but I remember the Cochran stuff and Cochran is willing to give it back which is good, the sport is in good...

Didn't hear about Hymas but I remember the Cochran stuff and Cochran is willing to give it back which is good, the sport is in good hands, expect to see some fireworks between Deegz and Cochran in time.

Is Deegan the best 250 rider in the world and if so does he deserve the most criticism or are we fairly debating challengers like Hymas, Cochran, Masterpool, and Kitchen, and Vialle who could and have beaten him to send him into more controversy?

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I'm back at the desk now and just watched it.  Racing incident, wasn't intentional, and I don't agree with Deegan speaking out on it.  So as...

I'm back at the desk now and just watched it.  Racing incident, wasn't intentional, and I don't agree with Deegan speaking out on it.  So as for my previous post this image below just solidifies it. From Deegan's perspective, Chance did ride him tight (he has every right to) and Deegan just didn't like to be challenged as he feels there was plenty of room.  The reason we are all talking about this is because while Chance was pinching him he lost the front end, which made it look intentional from Deegan's seat, and it resulted in a huge crash for Deegan.  This is where Haiden is coming from, even if we all don't agree with his comments.  

 

Shred wrote:
That is an unfair snapshot in time imo.  Chance was taking a totally normal line to turn one.  As he started to turn the dirt was...

That is an unfair snapshot in time imo.  Chance was taking a totally normal line to turn one.  As he started to turn the dirt was loose enough he started to wash the bike and in an instant you turn the wheel inside, your snapshot, and put your foot down to keep from going down.  It’s a twitch reflex and that is why you need the video vs a snapshot.  The bikes were already where they were.  He wasn’t cutting down.  He was trying to save it from the loose dirt.  If you watch the video you see Casey, outside of them, and pretty much every rider, do the same thing.  Haiden was super tight, probably to rub/make contact, and a 100% racing incident happened.  Haiden’s comment are so beyond stupid that people trying to justify him saying it just makes them look like blind fanboys.

….sidenote.  Before the gate drop looking at the track on the TV coverage I saw the combo of wet and loose dirt and posted this “Prediction…carnage in turn 1.” about a minute before the gate drop knowing what that dirt would be like with guys diving into the first turn. 

Hahahaha, unfair snapshot....did you just say unfair snapshot!?!?!  I guess this makes you a little blind Hymas fanboy then since you are denying the facts presented...

Hahahaha, unfair snapshot....did you just say unfair snapshot!?!?!  I guess this makes you a little blind Hymas fanboy then since you are denying the facts presented with proof?

Try to separate your emotions from it and view it as is.  You couldn't even get through my original post without responding and claiming that I said something I didn't, and then proceeded to tell me I don't ride, etc.  The fact is, my assumption was correct and the photo shows exactly that.  You can decide to accept them or not, but I doubt you will because you are seeing red as a Deegan hater or a Hymas blind fanboy as you call it.  Don't let emotions get the best of you, it limits your ceiling in life.  Some people are fans of all riders, and can see things from both sides.  

One thing we can agree on is that Deegan should keep his words to himself.  He would generate a lot less hate from people like you and maybe gain more fans like others have said above.  But that's his decision, and like I said earlier by talking smack he's digging a deep deep hole for all the haters to pile onto the minute he goes down.  It's all too predictable.

Man that's a stupid take, it's laughable that you claim Shred needs to control his emotions.

Everyone in this thread who is not trolling agrees that it was a racing incident and that Haiden ran his mouth again.

Not sure what you're trying to prove?

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Shred wrote:
That is an unfair snapshot in time imo.  Chance was taking a totally normal line to turn one.  As he started to turn the dirt was...

That is an unfair snapshot in time imo.  Chance was taking a totally normal line to turn one.  As he started to turn the dirt was loose enough he started to wash the bike and in an instant you turn the wheel inside, your snapshot, and put your foot down to keep from going down.  It’s a twitch reflex and that is why you need the video vs a snapshot.  The bikes were already where they were.  He wasn’t cutting down.  He was trying to save it from the loose dirt.  If you watch the video you see Casey, outside of them, and pretty much every rider, do the same thing.  Haiden was super tight, probably to rub/make contact, and a 100% racing incident happened.  Haiden’s comment are so beyond stupid that people trying to justify him saying it just makes them look like blind fanboys.

….sidenote.  Before the gate drop looking at the track on the TV coverage I saw the combo of wet and loose dirt and posted this “Prediction…carnage in turn 1.” about a minute before the gate drop knowing what that dirt would be like with guys diving into the first turn. 

Hahahaha, unfair snapshot....did you just say unfair snapshot!?!?!  I guess this makes you a little blind Hymas fanboy then since you are denying the facts presented...

Hahahaha, unfair snapshot....did you just say unfair snapshot!?!?!  I guess this makes you a little blind Hymas fanboy then since you are denying the facts presented with proof?

Try to separate your emotions from it and view it as is.  You couldn't even get through my original post without responding and claiming that I said something I didn't, and then proceeded to tell me I don't ride, etc.  The fact is, my assumption was correct and the photo shows exactly that.  You can decide to accept them or not, but I doubt you will because you are seeing red as a Deegan hater or a Hymas blind fanboy as you call it.  Don't let emotions get the best of you, it limits your ceiling in life.  Some people are fans of all riders, and can see things from both sides.  

One thing we can agree on is that Deegan should keep his words to himself.  He would generate a lot less hate from people like you and maybe gain more fans like others have said above.  But that's his decision, and like I said earlier by talking smack he's digging a deep deep hole for all the haters to pile onto the minute he goes down.  It's all too predictable.

CASH476 wrote:
Man that's a stupid take, it's laughable that you claim Shred needs to control his emotions. Everyone in this thread who is not trolling agrees that...

Man that's a stupid take, it's laughable that you claim Shred needs to control his emotions.

Everyone in this thread who is not trolling agrees that it was a racing incident and that Haiden ran his mouth again.

Not sure what you're trying to prove?

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Apparently you have not read any of his posts as that is exactly what he has been saying...

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Shred wrote:
That is an unfair snapshot in time imo.  Chance was taking a totally normal line to turn one.  As he started to turn the dirt was...

That is an unfair snapshot in time imo.  Chance was taking a totally normal line to turn one.  As he started to turn the dirt was loose enough he started to wash the bike and in an instant you turn the wheel inside, your snapshot, and put your foot down to keep from going down.  It’s a twitch reflex and that is why you need the video vs a snapshot.  The bikes were already where they were.  He wasn’t cutting down.  He was trying to save it from the loose dirt.  If you watch the video you see Casey, outside of them, and pretty much every rider, do the same thing.  Haiden was super tight, probably to rub/make contact, and a 100% racing incident happened.  Haiden’s comment are so beyond stupid that people trying to justify him saying it just makes them look like blind fanboys.

….sidenote.  Before the gate drop looking at the track on the TV coverage I saw the combo of wet and loose dirt and posted this “Prediction…carnage in turn 1.” about a minute before the gate drop knowing what that dirt would be like with guys diving into the first turn. 

Hahahaha, unfair snapshot....did you just say unfair snapshot!?!?!  I guess this makes you a little blind Hymas fanboy then since you are denying the facts presented...

Hahahaha, unfair snapshot....did you just say unfair snapshot!?!?!  I guess this makes you a little blind Hymas fanboy then since you are denying the facts presented with proof?

Try to separate your emotions from it and view it as is.  You couldn't even get through my original post without responding and claiming that I said something I didn't, and then proceeded to tell me I don't ride, etc.  The fact is, my assumption was correct and the photo shows exactly that.  You can decide to accept them or not, but I doubt you will because you are seeing red as a Deegan hater or a Hymas blind fanboy as you call it.  Don't let emotions get the best of you, it limits your ceiling in life.  Some people are fans of all riders, and can see things from both sides.  

One thing we can agree on is that Deegan should keep his words to himself.  He would generate a lot less hate from people like you and maybe gain more fans like others have said above.  But that's his decision, and like I said earlier by talking smack he's digging a deep deep hole for all the haters to pile onto the minute he goes down.  It's all too predictable.

CASH476 wrote:
Man that's a stupid take, it's laughable that you claim Shred needs to control his emotions. Everyone in this thread who is not trolling agrees that...

Man that's a stupid take, it's laughable that you claim Shred needs to control his emotions.

Everyone in this thread who is not trolling agrees that it was a racing incident and that Haiden ran his mouth again.

Not sure what you're trying to prove?

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I'm not trying to prove anything.  I simply noticed everyone was talking shit on Deegan for spouting out and I posed a possible explanation for why he did, and I asked a simple question about the food dab.  To me, if you are dabbing your foot it's obvious what's happening, which would make sense of why Deegan was making claims of him cutting down on him.  Then shred responds with making claims of stuff I didn't say and he proceeded with personal attacks.  So I got back to my computer, watched the replay, and provided a screenshot of exactly what happened.  Then he pivots and says it's not a fair snapshot.  Well, unfortunately that snapshot is real and I didn't create it to be "unfair".  So I suggested he take his emotions out of it and realize what happened from neutral mindset.  If you go back and actually read my first post, and then read his, you'll understand.   Nothing more than that.

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Hahahaha, unfair snapshot....did you just say unfair snapshot!?!?!  I guess this makes you a little blind Hymas fanboy then since you are denying the facts presented...

Hahahaha, unfair snapshot....did you just say unfair snapshot!?!?!  I guess this makes you a little blind Hymas fanboy then since you are denying the facts presented with proof?

Try to separate your emotions from it and view it as is.  You couldn't even get through my original post without responding and claiming that I said something I didn't, and then proceeded to tell me I don't ride, etc.  The fact is, my assumption was correct and the photo shows exactly that.  You can decide to accept them or not, but I doubt you will because you are seeing red as a Deegan hater or a Hymas blind fanboy as you call it.  Don't let emotions get the best of you, it limits your ceiling in life.  Some people are fans of all riders, and can see things from both sides.  

One thing we can agree on is that Deegan should keep his words to himself.  He would generate a lot less hate from people like you and maybe gain more fans like others have said above.  But that's his decision, and like I said earlier by talking smack he's digging a deep deep hole for all the haters to pile onto the minute he goes down.  It's all too predictable.

CASH476 wrote:
Man that's a stupid take, it's laughable that you claim Shred needs to control his emotions. Everyone in this thread who is not trolling agrees that...

Man that's a stupid take, it's laughable that you claim Shred needs to control his emotions.

Everyone in this thread who is not trolling agrees that it was a racing incident and that Haiden ran his mouth again.

Not sure what you're trying to prove?

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DonM wrote:

Apparently you have not read any of his posts as that is exactly what he has been saying...

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink.  It's almost like these are dumb bots responding that can't comprehend English.

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CASH476 wrote:
Man that's a stupid take, it's laughable that you claim Shred needs to control his emotions. Everyone in this thread who is not trolling agrees that...

Man that's a stupid take, it's laughable that you claim Shred needs to control his emotions.

Everyone in this thread who is not trolling agrees that it was a racing incident and that Haiden ran his mouth again.

Not sure what you're trying to prove?

.

DonM wrote:

Apparently you have not read any of his posts as that is exactly what he has been saying...

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink.  It's almost like these are dumb bots responding that can't comprehend English.

It's the red.....it's all they see...

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Hahahaha, unfair snapshot....did you just say unfair snapshot!?!?!  I guess this makes you a little blind Hymas fanboy then since you are denying the facts presented...

Hahahaha, unfair snapshot....did you just say unfair snapshot!?!?!  I guess this makes you a little blind Hymas fanboy then since you are denying the facts presented with proof?

Try to separate your emotions from it and view it as is.  You couldn't even get through my original post without responding and claiming that I said something I didn't, and then proceeded to tell me I don't ride, etc.  The fact is, my assumption was correct and the photo shows exactly that.  You can decide to accept them or not, but I doubt you will because you are seeing red as a Deegan hater or a Hymas blind fanboy as you call it.  Don't let emotions get the best of you, it limits your ceiling in life.  Some people are fans of all riders, and can see things from both sides.  

One thing we can agree on is that Deegan should keep his words to himself.  He would generate a lot less hate from people like you and maybe gain more fans like others have said above.  But that's his decision, and like I said earlier by talking smack he's digging a deep deep hole for all the haters to pile onto the minute he goes down.  It's all too predictable.

CASH476 wrote:
Man that's a stupid take, it's laughable that you claim Shred needs to control his emotions. Everyone in this thread who is not trolling agrees that...

Man that's a stupid take, it's laughable that you claim Shred needs to control his emotions.

Everyone in this thread who is not trolling agrees that it was a racing incident and that Haiden ran his mouth again.

Not sure what you're trying to prove?

.

I'm not trying to prove anything.  I simply noticed everyone was talking shit on Deegan for spouting out and I posed a possible explanation for why...

I'm not trying to prove anything.  I simply noticed everyone was talking shit on Deegan for spouting out and I posed a possible explanation for why he did, and I asked a simple question about the food dab.  To me, if you are dabbing your foot it's obvious what's happening, which would make sense of why Deegan was making claims of him cutting down on him.  Then shred responds with making claims of stuff I didn't say and he proceeded with personal attacks.  So I got back to my computer, watched the replay, and provided a screenshot of exactly what happened.  Then he pivots and says it's not a fair snapshot.  Well, unfortunately that snapshot is real and I didn't create it to be "unfair".  So I suggested he take his emotions out of it and realize what happened from neutral mindset.  If you go back and actually read my first post, and then read his, you'll understand.   Nothing more than that.

Yea..you’re sooo right.  A snapshot tells the story.  See the pic shows Chance was going straight…ugh…let’s never respond to eachothers posts again.  People can go back and read …and decide for themselves.

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CASH476 wrote:
Man that's a stupid take, it's laughable that you claim Shred needs to control his emotions. Everyone in this thread who is not trolling agrees that...

Man that's a stupid take, it's laughable that you claim Shred needs to control his emotions.

Everyone in this thread who is not trolling agrees that it was a racing incident and that Haiden ran his mouth again.

Not sure what you're trying to prove?

.

I'm not trying to prove anything.  I simply noticed everyone was talking shit on Deegan for spouting out and I posed a possible explanation for why...

I'm not trying to prove anything.  I simply noticed everyone was talking shit on Deegan for spouting out and I posed a possible explanation for why he did, and I asked a simple question about the food dab.  To me, if you are dabbing your foot it's obvious what's happening, which would make sense of why Deegan was making claims of him cutting down on him.  Then shred responds with making claims of stuff I didn't say and he proceeded with personal attacks.  So I got back to my computer, watched the replay, and provided a screenshot of exactly what happened.  Then he pivots and says it's not a fair snapshot.  Well, unfortunately that snapshot is real and I didn't create it to be "unfair".  So I suggested he take his emotions out of it and realize what happened from neutral mindset.  If you go back and actually read my first post, and then read his, you'll understand.   Nothing more than that.

Shred wrote:
Yea..you’re sooo right.  A snapshot tells the story.  See the pic shows Chance was going straight…ugh…let’s never respond to eachothers posts again.  People can go back...

Yea..you’re sooo right.  A snapshot tells the story.  See the pic shows Chance was going straight…ugh…let’s never respond to eachothers posts again.  People can go back and read …and decide for themselves.

That pic straightened after the foot dab. 

 

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This is one thread where the downvotes correctly reflect who’s full of it…

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I'm not trying to prove anything.  I simply noticed everyone was talking shit on Deegan for spouting out and I posed a possible explanation for why...

I'm not trying to prove anything.  I simply noticed everyone was talking shit on Deegan for spouting out and I posed a possible explanation for why he did, and I asked a simple question about the food dab.  To me, if you are dabbing your foot it's obvious what's happening, which would make sense of why Deegan was making claims of him cutting down on him.  Then shred responds with making claims of stuff I didn't say and he proceeded with personal attacks.  So I got back to my computer, watched the replay, and provided a screenshot of exactly what happened.  Then he pivots and says it's not a fair snapshot.  Well, unfortunately that snapshot is real and I didn't create it to be "unfair".  So I suggested he take his emotions out of it and realize what happened from neutral mindset.  If you go back and actually read my first post, and then read his, you'll understand.   Nothing more than that.

Shred wrote:
Yea..you’re sooo right.  A snapshot tells the story.  See the pic shows Chance was going straight…ugh…let’s never respond to eachothers posts again.  People can go back...

Yea..you’re sooo right.  A snapshot tells the story.  See the pic shows Chance was going straight…ugh…let’s never respond to eachothers posts again.  People can go back and read …and decide for themselves.

Moto Braap wrote:

That pic straightened after the foot dab. 

 

No shit…maybe that’s why I said a single frame can be deceiving so watch the whole video.

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I think it's time for....

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Hahahaha, unfair snapshot....did you just say unfair snapshot!?!?!  I guess this makes you a little blind Hymas fanboy then since you are denying the facts presented...

Hahahaha, unfair snapshot....did you just say unfair snapshot!?!?!  I guess this makes you a little blind Hymas fanboy then since you are denying the facts presented with proof?

Try to separate your emotions from it and view it as is.  You couldn't even get through my original post without responding and claiming that I said something I didn't, and then proceeded to tell me I don't ride, etc.  The fact is, my assumption was correct and the photo shows exactly that.  You can decide to accept them or not, but I doubt you will because you are seeing red as a Deegan hater or a Hymas blind fanboy as you call it.  Don't let emotions get the best of you, it limits your ceiling in life.  Some people are fans of all riders, and can see things from both sides.  

One thing we can agree on is that Deegan should keep his words to himself.  He would generate a lot less hate from people like you and maybe gain more fans like others have said above.  But that's his decision, and like I said earlier by talking smack he's digging a deep deep hole for all the haters to pile onto the minute he goes down.  It's all too predictable.

Shred wrote:
Actually…not really a Hymas fan.  I said unfair snapshot because it is one millisecond in time.  Watch the video and you see a normal line until...

Actually…not really a Hymas fan.  I said unfair snapshot because it is one millisecond in time.  Watch the video and you see a normal line until he feels the bike start to wash.  Then he does what any rider would do to try to save it.  Turn the wheel down and put your foot down.  You use the snapshot as if he were turning there vs saving a wash.  Deegan was already tight when he had that reaction to keep from going down.  Video almost always tell a story better then a still frame.  You could take the picture right above ^ this post and say…see…Hymas wasn’t turning his wheel in.  But if you watch the video you get the real story.  And the questioning if you ride is because you ask questions any racer would know like why did he put his foot down…in a turn.

If you would read my posts you would see I'm agreeing that Chance did not cut down intentionally.  But, he made a mistake and lost the...

If you would read my posts you would see I'm agreeing that Chance did not cut down intentionally.  But, he made a mistake and lost the front which caused him to cut down accidentally, which caused the crash.  And this is what Deegan saw from his view.  Chance did nothing wrong but it was his choice to pinch Deegan before he made the mistake.  Deegan didn't like it.  No one likes to be raced hard and pinched, but when it results in a hard crash it's hard for him to contain his words.  That's why this discussion exists.  No crash = no discussion.

"No crash no discussion" well that's a lie because Deegan complained the weekend before about Chance cutting him off when he didn't crash. Deegan will bitch and moan about anything if a mic is put in front of him. 

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