Gypsy vs Pulp

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I know which one I’d like more if I was a privateer 

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YouTube Stats for the last 30 days:

gypsy Tales: 3.7M views

Pulpmx: 230k Views

I know YouTube is just one platform, but that’s a HUGE difference..

stewie94 wrote:
misleading stat cause Gypsy is not pure moto based , he’s connected to moto yea but he’s not solely on moto therefore he have a bigger...

misleading stat cause Gypsy is not pure moto based , he’s connected to moto yea but he’s not solely on moto therefore he have a bigger audience or ppl searching for him for different stuff / selection of guest tht he has come in , Steve & pulp is strictly moto based so Steve only getting 1 targeted demographic / audience 

Not sure if “pure moto” matters to the guest that wants to get their message out to the most people possible.

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stewie94 wrote:
my personal opinion their in separate lanes , wht Steve do with pulp is like how me and a lot others do on utube normally, whether...

my personal opinion their in separate lanes , wht Steve do with pulp is like how me and a lot others do on utube normally, whether it’s bout sports , music , movie reviews , politics etc…. wht Jason do at Gypsy is wht u see Shannon sharpe do with the club Shay Shay , really a sit down convo type podcast setting with tht said guest. I like both styles but thts just me 

DonM wrote:

I think I agree with you....I believe what you said was that they both do what they do well but differently...

exactly, grapeape said it best forreal forreal…. Gypsy should be compared more to whiskey throttle more than pulp 

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7/10/2024 10:51am Edited Date/Time 7/10/2024 10:52am

YouTube Stats for the last 30 days:

gypsy Tales: 3.7M views

Pulpmx: 230k Views

I know YouTube is just one platform, but that’s a HUGE difference..

stewie94 wrote:
misleading stat cause Gypsy is not pure moto based , he’s connected to moto yea but he’s not solely on moto therefore he have a bigger...

misleading stat cause Gypsy is not pure moto based , he’s connected to moto yea but he’s not solely on moto therefore he have a bigger audience or ppl searching for him for different stuff / selection of guest tht he has come in , Steve & pulp is strictly moto based so Steve only getting 1 targeted demographic / audience 

Not sure if “pure moto” matters to the guest that wants to get their message out to the most people possible.

it does matter when it pertains to those YouTube stats for Gypsy because its not all from moto , wht u see for pulp is coming from a moto demographic cause thts wht pulp is , a motocross media outlet / platform 

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stewie94 wrote:
my personal opinion their in separate lanes , wht Steve do with pulp is like how me and a lot others do on utube normally, whether...

my personal opinion their in separate lanes , wht Steve do with pulp is like how me and a lot others do on utube normally, whether it’s bout sports , music , movie reviews , politics etc…. wht Jason do at Gypsy is wht u see Shannon sharpe do with the club Shay Shay , really a sit down convo type podcast setting with tht said guest. I like both styles but thts just me 

DonM wrote:

I think I agree with you....I believe what you said was that they both do what they do well but differently...

stewie94 wrote:

exactly, grapeape said it best forreal forreal…. Gypsy should be compared more to whiskey throttle more than pulp 

I'm still trying to understand your posting style! but I'm getting there!

7/10/2024 10:59am Edited Date/Time 7/10/2024 10:59am

Gypsy for the in depth one on one with the riders, even though the bro jiu jitsu talk is grating to the ears.

Pulp for the lols and Phil interviews, even though Steve is an entitled man baby that looks down on his audience.

So ya, both have their pros and cons, it depends on the mood.

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stewie94 wrote:
misleading stat cause Gypsy is not pure moto based , he’s connected to moto yea but he’s not solely on moto therefore he have a bigger...

misleading stat cause Gypsy is not pure moto based , he’s connected to moto yea but he’s not solely on moto therefore he have a bigger audience or ppl searching for him for different stuff / selection of guest tht he has come in , Steve & pulp is strictly moto based so Steve only getting 1 targeted demographic / audience 

Not sure if “pure moto” matters to the guest that wants to get their message out to the most people possible.

stewie94 wrote:
it does matter when it pertains to those YouTube stats for Gypsy because its not all from moto , wht u see for pulp is coming...

it does matter when it pertains to those YouTube stats for Gypsy because its not all from moto , wht u see for pulp is coming from a moto demographic cause thts wht pulp is , a motocross media outlet / platform 

Well I can tell u this..

gypsy’s 3.7M views probably earned him around $18,500 in YouTube Ad Revenue..

Pretty damn impressive 

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I prefer Pulp mostly for the format and segments. I like some of the more obscure guests too, guys from companies or behind the scenes people in the industry. The other content he puts out beside the main show like the Reraceables and Privateer Island pods are fantastic too. 


If you listen to every show like I do, some of the rants and bits do become repetitive though. We get it, Deegan does bad interviews and Fireworks annoy your dog, time to move on please. 

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7/10/2024 11:12am

I listen to both, I only listen to Gypsy when he has moto people on, I like to go back and listen to older episodes also, like the Daniel Ricciardo one. As for pulp, I listen to pretty much everything but re raceables, I am always chatting in the live stream with other people. I am just thankful that there's so much moto content to consume, especially with all the shows steve does. I met Gypsy at A1 this year, I've also met Dark last year.

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Kind of totally different shows, Pulp is more like a weekend wrap up sort of state of the sport and usually has topical guests on from the weekend like race winners or a guy that had a break out ride or like Tickle on after his first race back. Pulp is cool because a lot of times you almost get a behind the scenes of the weekends race from the guys calling in. 

Gypsy is a full on long form podcast where you learn a ton about one guys whole life story, outlook on things etc. Way more of a get to know a guy beyond moto or whatever he gets killer guests from both moto and the mountain bike world.

 

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7/10/2024 11:14am Edited Date/Time 7/10/2024 11:16am

My favorite part of both shows is when they release specific slices of their show a few days later on youtube. I cannot listen to either show in their entirety.  

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davistld01 wrote:

Gypsy for me. Steve has come like a pompous douchebag most every time I’ve tried to listen to him.

Not that my opinion matters.. but in my opinion Gypsy - if he'd just listen a little more and not talk so much (I listen to hear his guests - not him talk) - could be the better of the two and attract more fans. Steve... In my opinion..He really seems to me to be a guy playing for the camera. 

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stewie94 wrote:
my personal opinion their in separate lanes , wht Steve do with pulp is like how me and a lot others do on utube normally, whether...

my personal opinion their in separate lanes , wht Steve do with pulp is like how me and a lot others do on utube normally, whether it’s bout sports , music , movie reviews , politics etc…. wht Jason do at Gypsy is wht u see Shannon sharpe do with the club Shay Shay , really a sit down convo type podcast setting with tht said guest. I like both styles but thts just me 

HonDawg17 wrote:
Pulp over Gypsy usually. I also can't stand the "DUDE, BRO, Law-ike" every 5 seconds. But I also think Pulp has gone downhill ever since Steve...

Pulp over Gypsy usually. I also can't stand the "DUDE, BRO, Law-ike" every 5 seconds. But I also think Pulp has gone downhill ever since Steve decided that an American motocross racer waving an American flag on the podium of an American MX National after he won it, looked bad in his eyes. Said the Canadian living in the freest country on planet earth where he's lived for decades..

stewie94 wrote:
i feel it just depends on wht ur looking for , if ur looking for news breaking , predictions /  “bench racing” , race breakdowns &...

i feel it just depends on wht ur looking for , if ur looking for news breaking , predictions /  “bench racing” , race breakdowns & reviews then u go to pulp , if u want to hear about life after racing , or opinions of the current landscape of the sport etc…. then u check out gyspy  tales & see wht guest he had on , everybody is not going to appeal to everyone so just pick a podcaster or a media outlet tht u identify with. as far as Steve & his take on haiden goes 😂😂 I mean thts his opinion 🤷🏾‍♂️  

Are you really THAT lazy where you can't type the "a" in THAT or WHAT?.....unbelievable.

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HonDawg17 wrote:
Pulp over Gypsy usually. I also can't stand the "DUDE, BRO, Law-ike" every 5 seconds. But I also think Pulp has gone downhill ever since Steve...

Pulp over Gypsy usually. I also can't stand the "DUDE, BRO, Law-ike" every 5 seconds. But I also think Pulp has gone downhill ever since Steve decided that an American motocross racer waving an American flag on the podium of an American MX National after he won it, looked bad in his eyes. Said the Canadian living in the freest country on planet earth where he's lived for decades..

stewie94 wrote:
i feel it just depends on wht ur looking for , if ur looking for news breaking , predictions /  “bench racing” , race breakdowns &...

i feel it just depends on wht ur looking for , if ur looking for news breaking , predictions /  “bench racing” , race breakdowns & reviews then u go to pulp , if u want to hear about life after racing , or opinions of the current landscape of the sport etc…. then u check out gyspy  tales & see wht guest he had on , everybody is not going to appeal to everyone so just pick a podcaster or a media outlet tht u identify with. as far as Steve & his take on haiden goes 😂😂 I mean thts his opinion 🤷🏾‍♂️  

HonDawg17 wrote:

Are you really THAT lazy where you can't type the "a" in THAT or WHAT?.....unbelievable.

😂😂 coming from a guy who can’t debate anything moto objectively with out sucking off tomac , idk who’s  worse…. u , the bedbugs or the jetties , u tell me 🤔

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stewie94 wrote:
misleading stat cause Gypsy is not pure moto based , he’s connected to moto yea but he’s not solely on moto therefore he have a bigger...

misleading stat cause Gypsy is not pure moto based , he’s connected to moto yea but he’s not solely on moto therefore he have a bigger audience or ppl searching for him for different stuff / selection of guest tht he has come in , Steve & pulp is strictly moto based so Steve only getting 1 targeted demographic / audience 

Not sure if “pure moto” matters to the guest that wants to get their message out to the most people possible.

stewie94 wrote:
it does matter when it pertains to those YouTube stats for Gypsy because its not all from moto , wht u see for pulp is coming...

it does matter when it pertains to those YouTube stats for Gypsy because its not all from moto , wht u see for pulp is coming from a moto demographic cause thts wht pulp is , a motocross media outlet / platform 

That's totally true. Gypsy has done some very good interview with people that are non-moto like Casey Stoner, Sete Giberneau and Loic Bruni, a mountain bike world champion. I'm pretty sure that fans of thoses sport have listened to theses interviews, which is a way larger  demographic then if you get another Daniel Blair interview.

For me, I prefer gypsy to pulp. Gypsy isn't afraid to dig deeper and ask tougher question, to his own detriment sometime (Like when he was telling Lars Lindstrom his theory on why Chase was washing the front so much on the honda), while Steve will usually hide behind a joke or a commercial as soon as something a little dicey comes up. It's also clear that gypsy follows and is open to more stuff, which  just makes for a more interesting conversation with the guest. Pulp is funny at times, but feels like groundhog days most of the times.

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One supports privateers and one wants to get rid of them....

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stewie94 wrote:
i feel it just depends on wht ur looking for , if ur looking for news breaking , predictions /  “bench racing” , race breakdowns &...

i feel it just depends on wht ur looking for , if ur looking for news breaking , predictions /  “bench racing” , race breakdowns & reviews then u go to pulp , if u want to hear about life after racing , or opinions of the current landscape of the sport etc…. then u check out gyspy  tales & see wht guest he had on , everybody is not going to appeal to everyone so just pick a podcaster or a media outlet tht u identify with. as far as Steve & his take on haiden goes 😂😂 I mean thts his opinion 🤷🏾‍♂️  

HonDawg17 wrote:

Are you really THAT lazy where you can't type the "a" in THAT or WHAT?.....unbelievable.

stewie94 wrote:
😂😂 coming from a guy who can’t debate anything moto objectively with out sucking off tomac , idk who’s  worse…. u , the bedbugs or the...

😂😂 coming from a guy who can’t debate anything moto objectively with out sucking off tomac , idk who’s  worse…. u , the bedbugs or the jetties , u tell me 🤔

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GrapeApe wrote:
I don't consume either other than clips that get posted here, but I don't get the impression they are competing with one another. Does Steve do...

I don't consume either other than clips that get posted here, but I don't get the impression they are competing with one another. Does Steve do one-on-one long-form interviews? Seems like Gypsy Tales and Whiskey Throttle would be a more relevant comparison.

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Yes, Matthes has done hundreds of long form, one on one interviews for the last decade.  He's the originator of it.  Most the folks Ping has...

Yes, Matthes has done hundreds of long form, one on one interviews for the last decade.  He's the originator of it.  Most the folks Ping has on...Matthes has already had on years ago.

If you search "Steve Matthes Show Podcast" it will pull them up, chances are if someone is historically relevant to the sport he has done one with them at some point other than the few folks who have a beef with him for calling it as he sees it.

Originator of it? Pretty sure that he didn't pioneer the podcast

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7/10/2024 12:41pm

At the end they doing different formats. Pulp is weekly and up to date with gossip and all and the bro mate dude goes deep with his guests. Can’t really compare. 

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7/10/2024 12:42pm

I like both they are very different and I like that. The interviews with Anderson, Keefer and Weege on gypsy where great and Jase even said pulp and Steve are a big part of the media so credit to him for that. I think if Steve maybe gave more credit to gypsy they could do some great things. 

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I really dislike Steve matthes. He has some pretty bad takes as well.    I don’t mind the gypsytales dude. He was kind of weird to...

I really dislike Steve matthes. He has some pretty bad takes as well. 
 

I don’t mind the gypsytales dude. He was kind of weird to me at first but I’ve grown to like him fine. It helps that the guys he gets on there seem to like him as well. 
 

big thing I look at is if I met either one of the guys in person which one do you think would be nicer…. Lmfao. Should be pretty obvious. 

"big thing I look at is if I met either one of the guys in person which one do you think would be nicer…. Lmfao. Should be pretty obvious."

 

I've never met Steve before, but I did see and have a brief moto chat with Jase @ LAX last week, Wednesday I think.  He obviously had no idea who I was and was very friendly and normal.  One thing he casually shared seemed like a "hot scoop" of info...time will tell if it turns into anything.  I'm a light Gypsy listener.

I've listed to Pulp for years, not all of it, that's too many hours.  For some reason I'm starting to notice the level of banter on Pulp now more than in the past.

Lately, I've be listening to Daniel Blair's Main Event Moto clips and really like his, to the point, style.

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I respect all of the work both do to put content out there for us moto fans to choose from on what we want to listen to.

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Originator of it? Pretty sure that he didn't pioneer the podcast

He did in the moto world.

But if it makes you feel better, you win and I was completely wrong.

Do you feel fulfilled now?

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Hands down gypsy over steve. 

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I think a lot of people misunderstand Matthes. Some of his rants are VERY tongue in cheek, it's surprising so many people miss that. Or maybe they just don't like that kind of humor, which is fine. 

 

I find it relatable though, I like to do the same. I'll rant about stuff, and purposely be a little over the top with it. If you're not too dense, it's easy to pick up on the fact that I'm playing it up for the fun of it, and you can tell he's doing the exact same thing.

 

Steve comes across as a genuinely nice, and caring human being. He's gone out of his way to help a lot of people. He's even increased some riders stock by increasing their popularity through his show.

 

As for jace, I will watch some of his clips now, which is progress. Sometimes there's some good clips, but jace needs to talk about himself way less. It's like he tries to relate to absolutely every single thing the guests say, and sometimes just talks in circles for literally minutes. I just don't think I fit his demo, seems more for the crypto, Andrew Tate dude bro types. 

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tyler113 wrote:
I think a lot of people misunderstand Matthes. Some of his rants are VERY tongue in cheek, it's surprising so many people miss that. Or maybe...

I think a lot of people misunderstand Matthes. Some of his rants are VERY tongue in cheek, it's surprising so many people miss that. Or maybe they just don't like that kind of humor, which is fine. 

 

I find it relatable though, I like to do the same. I'll rant about stuff, and purposely be a little over the top with it. If you're not too dense, it's easy to pick up on the fact that I'm playing it up for the fun of it, and you can tell he's doing the exact same thing.

 

Steve comes across as a genuinely nice, and caring human being. He's gone out of his way to help a lot of people. He's even increased some riders stock by increasing their popularity through his show.

 

As for jace, I will watch some of his clips now, which is progress. Sometimes there's some good clips, but jace needs to talk about himself way less. It's like he tries to relate to absolutely every single thing the guests say, and sometimes just talks in circles for literally minutes. I just don't think I fit his demo, seems more for the crypto, Andrew Tate dude bro types. 

In my opinion, I think you are correct, but there is also another level to it.

He does do a lot for the privateers, and does seem to be a genuinely nice dude, BUT he's also the guy who has to remind everyone how many things he's done for you. He regularly straight up asks guests and/or riders how much credit he gets for their success/popularity. He did it this week for Phil.

Steve is one of those guys I can't give a real opinion on, because sometimes I love listening to his stuff and other times I legitimately think he's an arrogant and self-righteous a-hole lol.

Ultimately I'll always go back and listen to the review pod, so even my complaining isn't keeping me from giving him views/listens.

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Neither.

One is too siiiiick, bro and the other needs just a edited highlight reel.

Mainly listen to Whiskey because Ping just lets them talk and the stories are great.

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It would be nearly impossible to talk frankly about any subject as much as Steve does about MX and not piss someone off. He is a huge benefit to MX in my opinion. Nothing against Gypsy, I’m just hot and cold on his content. I don’t see them as competitors though. 

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They’re aren’t even the same really. Pulp is like its own network with multiple shows under the pulp umbrella.
 

Comparing YouTube views is kinda funny. If that’s what you think makes a show successful, I think you’d be surprised. Marx could spend 10 hours a day clipping up all of pulps  shows and get crazy numbers, but he doesn’t need clickbait bullshit to survive. He has the best fantasy platform, Keefer doing bike/product reviews, and who knows what else. 
 

Whiskey Throttle would be a closer comparison. And if we’re doing that, ping, regardless of what you think of him is probably the best interviewer in the game imo.  
 

I’ve been listening to Gypsy for years and he still puts out a good show. But his early stuff and when he was doing race companions kicking back with his friends is what I liked best from him. I can only take so much now though.
 

Of course some riders are going to prefer other podcasters of Steve for whatever reason, but ultimately, Steve has used his show to give better lives to the people around him and almost every privateer in the paddock and you can’t argue that.  I like fireworks btw. 

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YouTube Stats for the last 30 days:

gypsy Tales: 3.7M views

Pulpmx: 230k Views

I know YouTube is just one platform, but that’s a HUGE difference..

Yikes, a lot of those for Gypsy are shorts, which don't mean shit. 

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