Chase, KTM, and the media.

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6/17/2024 5:40am

Honestly I think Chase knows that at this time at least Jett is faster than him. He can ride well within his comfort zone and not crash and get a podium or he can ride over his head a little and try to beat Jett but maybe crash and can still pick the bike up and get a podium.

Not a terrible tactic honestly, if he was cruising around in 3rd all day we would be giving him shit for that, if he challenges for the win with Jett and crashes and still gets a 3rd we give him shit as well. 

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6/17/2024 5:53am
plowboy wrote:
I think the question is asked because everyone knows his potential but he hasn't been "consistent". The bike has something to do with it but mostly...

I think the question is asked because everyone knows his potential but he hasn't been "consistent".

The bike has something to do with it but mostly he "has a hole in his swing".  In my recollection most of his crashes are a result of tucking or pushing the front.

If he can find and fix what he's doing that is causing it...Jett should be worried.

" he hasn't been "consistent". "

What? Of course he's consistent, he consistently rides like a bat outta hell to catch up, then does a digger when he has clean air. Eli knew it and Jett does too. If he didn't consistently do this, this thread wouldn't exist.

So the real question is, what's different from catching up vs leading. The mind is a funny thing.

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6/17/2024 6:59am

Chase problem is the year before the Jett era started he was battling with ET3 and still everybody thinks he is the man outdoors. Maybe the reality is just that Jett is a bit better than both of them and this is a hard to swallow pill. He can’t keep up with the Jett speed and is riding over the limit to close the gap. That’s also the moment his bike is not working anymore because he is over the limit. 

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6/17/2024 7:18am
hartebreak wrote:
Obviously Chase has been slow to get up to speed on the KTM. My point of this thread isnt whether its the bike, or Chase or...

Obviously Chase has been slow to get up to speed on the KTM. My point of this thread isnt whether its the bike, or Chase or a combo. That is what it is. But I'm finding it very weird and off-putting just how much "Chase, how is the bike" talk there is. Its literally all anyone talks about.

"Chase, you rode good today, does that mean you found something with the bike?".

"Chase, you seemed to a little off today, are you struggling on the bike with this type of dirt?"

I totally understand why people ask, and I appreciate the fact that Chase is willing to discuss it, but for shit's sake, lets talk about something else. Do we hear all this bike talk with Anderson, or Kenny, or anyone else? The narrative around Chase and the KTM almost makes it seem like Chase is on some sort of reality TV show where he agreed to develop some sort of hand built prototype bike and walk us through the process. This is not going to end well for Chase or KTM. If people thought it was a bad look when Webb left mid season to Yamaha, just wait until this relationship with Chase and KTM ends. I wouldn't be surprised if he has already signed with another team for 2026. I am a huge Chase fan, and KTM is my personal bike of choice more often then not, but looking at this objectively, this deal with him and the brand is a huge shit show. 

Everybody cant be number 1, Chase is fast enough.

Enough with the comfort thing we keep hearing about with everybody, Dungey did it. Chase can do it, i'ts in his head, Hangtown proved that.

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6/17/2024 9:46am
ToolMaker wrote:
" he hasn't been "consistent". " What? Of course he's consistent, he consistently rides like a bat outta hell to catch up, then does a digger when...

" he hasn't been "consistent". "

What? Of course he's consistent, he consistently rides like a bat outta hell to catch up, then does a digger when he has clean air. Eli knew it and Jett does too. If he didn't consistently do this, this thread wouldn't exist.

So the real question is, what's different from catching up vs leading. The mind is a funny thing.

Sorry...my fault for not being able to correctly convey an idea.Blush

You're %100 correct.  He "consistently" goes down.  I guess what I was trying to say is that instead of trying so hard to "fix" or get the bike to fit his technique (same problem on both bikes) he should spend some time looking closely at what he's doing when he tucks.  James has pointed out numerous times that he's slamming and trusting the front too much.  He should knowWoohoo

Sounds like an easy fix but we all know that ain't true.

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6/17/2024 9:57am

The narrative is out on the open because Ktm and Chase have mentioned that they have been searching all year. With that said, they shouldn’t be hiding parts they place on the bike and get mad at media (ML512) for pointing out the changes. Sometimes certain bikes work for riders better than others, but generally the teams can make riders happy. 

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6/17/2024 10:19am
ToolMaker wrote:
" he hasn't been "consistent". " What? Of course he's consistent, he consistently rides like a bat outta hell to catch up, then does a digger when...

" he hasn't been "consistent". "

What? Of course he's consistent, he consistently rides like a bat outta hell to catch up, then does a digger when he has clean air. Eli knew it and Jett does too. If he didn't consistently do this, this thread wouldn't exist.

So the real question is, what's different from catching up vs leading. The mind is a funny thing.

plowboy wrote:
Sorry...my fault for not being able to correctly convey an idea. You're %100 correct.  He "consistently" goes down.  I guess what I was trying to say...

Sorry...my fault for not being able to correctly convey an idea.Blush

You're %100 correct.  He "consistently" goes down.  I guess what I was trying to say is that instead of trying so hard to "fix" or get the bike to fit his technique (same problem on both bikes) he should spend some time looking closely at what he's doing when he tucks.  James has pointed out numerous times that he's slamming and trusting the front too much.  He should knowWoohoo

Sounds like an easy fix but we all know that ain't true.

No, I get what you're trying to convey. I just don't know what "the fix" is. Because we see it and talk about it. He lives it. And every time it happens it creates doubt the next time he's out front. I swear, I can go for months "knowing" I locked the front door when I leave the house. But when my wife asks me did you lock the door, I question myself, then, for the next 2 weeks I get out of the truck and go check because it's in my mind "maybe" I didn't do it. We get something in our head and it's really hard to believe in ourself again, especially if it's reinforced with consistency of diggers while out front. I sure hope he gets it figured out because he seems to be the only guy to make this interesting.

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6/17/2024 12:00pm
Money wrote:
It’s not the ktm or Honda. The bike was perfect they said second Moto at Hangtown of course he won. When he’s not winning it’s the...

It’s not the ktm or Honda. The bike was perfect they said second Moto at Hangtown of course he won. When he’s not winning it’s the bike not him lol. U put Jett on the ktm he still wins 

UpTiTe wrote:
Nobody said that bike was good after the second moto at Hangtown. If fact, AP said it wasn’t good at all and it’s why he was...

Nobody said that bike was good after the second moto at Hangtown. If fact, AP said it wasn’t good at all and it’s why he was so tired at the end of the moto. 

ando wrote:
Pretty sure that at Thunder Valley Chase said they didn’t change anything from Hangtown, or words to that effect, so they must have been happy with...

Pretty sure that at Thunder Valley Chase said they didn’t change anything from Hangtown, or words to that effect, so they must have been happy with it.  

Chase didn’t change anything because he didn’t want to deal with the bike that week. 
 

 AP said the bike wasn’t good after Hangtown too. 

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6/17/2024 12:10pm

When he's on a Yamaha in 26, doing the same thing, will it still be the bike?

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6/17/2024 12:17pm
Money wrote:
It’s not the ktm or Honda. The bike was perfect they said second Moto at Hangtown of course he won. When he’s not winning it’s the...

It’s not the ktm or Honda. The bike was perfect they said second Moto at Hangtown of course he won. When he’s not winning it’s the bike not him lol. U put Jett on the ktm he still wins 

UpTiTe wrote:
Nobody said that bike was good after the second moto at Hangtown. If fact, AP said it wasn’t good at all and it’s why he was...

Nobody said that bike was good after the second moto at Hangtown. If fact, AP said it wasn’t good at all and it’s why he was so tired at the end of the moto. 

ando wrote:
Pretty sure that at Thunder Valley Chase said they didn’t change anything from Hangtown, or words to that effect, so they must have been happy with...

Pretty sure that at Thunder Valley Chase said they didn’t change anything from Hangtown, or words to that effect, so they must have been happy with it.  

Chase said they did make change, then decided to go back to hangtown settings

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6/17/2024 4:01pm
Chase problem is the year before the Jett era started he was battling with ET3 and still everybody thinks he is the man outdoors. Maybe the...

Chase problem is the year before the Jett era started he was battling with ET3 and still everybody thinks he is the man outdoors. Maybe the reality is just that Jett is a bit better than both of them and this is a hard to swallow pill. He can’t keep up with the Jett speed and is riding over the limit to close the gap. That’s also the moment his bike is not working anymore because he is over the limit. 

Totally agree with this.
 

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6/17/2024 5:40pm
zehn wrote:
Go back and watch that second moto, the bike looked fucking terrible just about everywhere. He just rode the ever loving shit out of it with...

Go back and watch that second moto, the bike looked fucking terrible just about everywhere. He just rode the ever loving shit out of it with aggression and anger, something he should learn to harness 

The first Moto, he was 30 seconds behind the leaders then in the second Moto he’s upfront and that’s when you start to see all the mistakes. I just don’t think he’s comfortable/capable of going the speed of the front runners and dealing with all that pressure without making a mistake. You know the guy is in shape,the bike is capable so that doesn’t leave anything but looking in the mirror.  I told my daughter when Sexton got in the lead that if Jett stayed close he would make a mistake. 

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6/18/2024 6:47pm

To be fair, his setup still looked no bueno at high point but that wasn’t the cause of that crash. He just pushed the front over a small soft rut, complete mental error.  

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6/18/2024 11:27pm
Zycki11 wrote:
To be fair, his setup still looked no bueno at high point but that wasn’t the cause of that crash. He just pushed the front over...

To be fair, his setup still looked no bueno at high point but that wasn’t the cause of that crash. He just pushed the front over a small soft rut, complete mental error.  

All this soul searching when all he did was push THROUGH a soft rut...he didn't even go over.

While the consistency of falling is frustrating, I think it was more a "one of those things" thing this time than a full-blown error.

I'm stoked to see he was running the pace with Jet and at least going back and forth. That was refreshing!

Why can't we celebrate that rather than constantly ripping Chase a new one....
 

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t_baum88
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6/19/2024 6:38am

I nominate RV or JLAW as Chases' mental coach

 

And when I say mental coach, I mean teach him how to turn his brain off during the moto and go off of instinct.

 

Jett playing 4d mental chess during the moto, Chase trying to match that, when he really needs to just send it. Jetts' mid moto thoughts are pretty deep, guessing 95% of the sports champions didn't think on the track as much as he does. 

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t_baum88 wrote:
I nominate RV or JLAW as Chases' mental coach   And when I say mental coach, I mean teach him how to turn his brain off...

I nominate RV or JLAW as Chases' mental coach

 

And when I say mental coach, I mean teach him how to turn his brain off during the moto and go off of instinct.

 

Jett playing 4d mental chess during the moto, Chase trying to match that, when he really needs to just send it. Jetts' mid moto thoughts are pretty deep, guessing 95% of the sports champions didn't think on the track as much as he does. 

It's looking like the time spent with Eli is paying off for Haiden 😉

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