When was the last time a rider went from 40th to first?

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chuck356 wrote:

  I think Ricky did on a KX125 in his last 125 season.

Please don’t roast me too bad if I’m wrong. 
I can’t remember the year, and I joined just to answer this question and agree with chuck356, but I was at the St. Louis SX and saw Carmichael leading, crash, and go to last, then get back to first place again. 

Hey, I’m old, so bear with me. My iffy memory wants to say he did it twice!. 
I know he was leading, crashed into last TWICE, then I THINK he got back to first twice. 
He for sure crashed 2 times, but I’m thinking he came back and won from last THE SECOND time.
Hoping someone else was there to verify of jog my memory. I do remember being amazed at the whole ordeal! Gives new meaning to the whole go big or go home phrase….

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I believe Rick Johnson did it in Supercross. it's not 40 laps but it's Supercross so...

Yes! 1987 at the final round. He passed Wardy and Lechien too. 

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Those of you talking depleted field and Jett went down and blah blah blah...get real. Can't help but think you are more recent fans or at...

Those of you talking depleted field and Jett went down and blah blah blah...get real. Can't help but think you are more recent fans or at least a newer generation. 

Pay attention to the guys who've been around a while, who watched Stew in 2002, or even 2014 in Toronto. The guys who have seen more races than you "Jett is unbeatable" guys, we aren't biased when it comes to generational RIDES like Sextons yesterday. 

That was a nasty track that bit two of the best riders in the series in one day, and Chase found the edge and put in a ride that will go down as one of the best ever.

You don't have to be a Jett hater or a Chase fanboy to acknowledge that fact. Just enjoy what you got to see yesterday, and we'll move on to the rest of the series.

I'm a fan of Jett AND Chase. Jett committed an unforced error and it bit him hard, but hopefully not hard enough to mess with the rest of the series. Chase HAD to have gained some confidence in himself and the bike. 

Yesterday was good for the series, especially since Jett doesn't appear to be hurt. We are in for some battles. 

Please dude. AP put a gap on 2nd place all moto long and got passed at the last second of the race and you think Jett would of succumbed to Chase? AP is not even in the same zipcode as Jett, Chase would of came in 2nd...again. Jett crashed because its easy to lose focus when your competition is weak and your IG dms are full of the finest tail known to man.

Chase should count his lucky stars because these "battles" will only be a thing until Jett has recovered then back to the struggle bus for box-faced underbite man.

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Those of you talking depleted field and Jett went down and blah blah blah...get real. Can't help but think you are more recent fans or at...

Those of you talking depleted field and Jett went down and blah blah blah...get real. Can't help but think you are more recent fans or at least a newer generation. 

Pay attention to the guys who've been around a while, who watched Stew in 2002, or even 2014 in Toronto. The guys who have seen more races than you "Jett is unbeatable" guys, we aren't biased when it comes to generational RIDES like Sextons yesterday. 

That was a nasty track that bit two of the best riders in the series in one day, and Chase found the edge and put in a ride that will go down as one of the best ever.

You don't have to be a Jett hater or a Chase fanboy to acknowledge that fact. Just enjoy what you got to see yesterday, and we'll move on to the rest of the series.

I'm a fan of Jett AND Chase. Jett committed an unforced error and it bit him hard, but hopefully not hard enough to mess with the rest of the series. Chase HAD to have gained some confidence in himself and the bike. 

Yesterday was good for the series, especially since Jett doesn't appear to be hurt. We are in for some battles. 

Please dude. AP put a gap on 2nd place all moto long and got passed at the last second of the race and you think Jett...

Please dude. AP put a gap on 2nd place all moto long and got passed at the last second of the race and you think Jett would of succumbed to Chase? AP is not even in the same zipcode as Jett, Chase would of came in 2nd...again. Jett crashed because its easy to lose focus when your competition is weak and your IG dms are full of the finest tail known to man.

Chase should count his lucky stars because these "battles" will only be a thing until Jett has recovered then back to the struggle bus for box-faced underbite man.

You're a delusional troll who posts contradictory things in each thread for attention. Go away, casual fan. 

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Those of you talking depleted field and Jett went down and blah blah blah...get real. Can't help but think you are more recent fans or at...

Those of you talking depleted field and Jett went down and blah blah blah...get real. Can't help but think you are more recent fans or at least a newer generation. 

Pay attention to the guys who've been around a while, who watched Stew in 2002, or even 2014 in Toronto. The guys who have seen more races than you "Jett is unbeatable" guys, we aren't biased when it comes to generational RIDES like Sextons yesterday. 

That was a nasty track that bit two of the best riders in the series in one day, and Chase found the edge and put in a ride that will go down as one of the best ever.

You don't have to be a Jett hater or a Chase fanboy to acknowledge that fact. Just enjoy what you got to see yesterday, and we'll move on to the rest of the series.

I'm a fan of Jett AND Chase. Jett committed an unforced error and it bit him hard, but hopefully not hard enough to mess with the rest of the series. Chase HAD to have gained some confidence in himself and the bike. 

Yesterday was good for the series, especially since Jett doesn't appear to be hurt. We are in for some battles. 

Please dude. AP put a gap on 2nd place all moto long and got passed at the last second of the race and you think Jett...

Please dude. AP put a gap on 2nd place all moto long and got passed at the last second of the race and you think Jett would of succumbed to Chase? AP is not even in the same zipcode as Jett, Chase would of came in 2nd...again. Jett crashed because its easy to lose focus when your competition is weak and your IG dms are full of the finest tail known to man.

Chase should count his lucky stars because these "battles" will only be a thing until Jett has recovered then back to the struggle bus for box-faced underbite man.

You're a delusional troll who posts contradictory things in each thread for attention. Go away, casual fan. 

Nothing I say is contradictory, you're just too stupid to make sense of things that don't start with "hurr" and "durr".

My nut hair has seen more races than you.

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Please dude. AP put a gap on 2nd place all moto long and got passed at the last second of the race and you think Jett...

Please dude. AP put a gap on 2nd place all moto long and got passed at the last second of the race and you think Jett would of succumbed to Chase? AP is not even in the same zipcode as Jett, Chase would of came in 2nd...again. Jett crashed because its easy to lose focus when your competition is weak and your IG dms are full of the finest tail known to man.

Chase should count his lucky stars because these "battles" will only be a thing until Jett has recovered then back to the struggle bus for box-faced underbite man.

You're a delusional troll who posts contradictory things in each thread for attention. Go away, casual fan. 

Nothing I say is contradictory, you're just too stupid to make sense of things that don't start with "hurr" and "durr". My nut hair has seen...

Nothing I say is contradictory, you're just too stupid to make sense of things that don't start with "hurr" and "durr".

My nut hair has seen more races than you.

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6/2/2024 11:46pm Edited Date/Time 6/2/2024 11:50pm
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No tomac  webb 94 and clearly injured jett.

Def agree field was not depleted .

Regardless epic  ride by chase.

What pray tell would Webb out there do against Chase? Other than get lapped, of course. 

Herr Lich wrote:
Exactly. Why does anyone even bring up Webb's name when it comes to outdoors? He's right where he wants to be this summer. 

Exactly. Why does anyone even bring up Webb's name when it comes to outdoors?

He's right where he wants to be this summer. 

All you downvoting fucks know this is exactly what Cooper 'never bothers racing outdoors for a whole season' Webb is doing. 

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Those of you talking depleted field and Jett went down and blah blah blah...get real. Can't help but think you are more recent fans or at...

Those of you talking depleted field and Jett went down and blah blah blah...get real. Can't help but think you are more recent fans or at least a newer generation. 

Pay attention to the guys who've been around a while, who watched Stew in 2002, or even 2014 in Toronto. The guys who have seen more races than you "Jett is unbeatable" guys, we aren't biased when it comes to generational RIDES like Sextons yesterday. 

That was a nasty track that bit two of the best riders in the series in one day, and Chase found the edge and put in a ride that will go down as one of the best ever.

You don't have to be a Jett hater or a Chase fanboy to acknowledge that fact. Just enjoy what you got to see yesterday, and we'll move on to the rest of the series.

I'm a fan of Jett AND Chase. Jett committed an unforced error and it bit him hard, but hopefully not hard enough to mess with the rest of the series. Chase HAD to have gained some confidence in himself and the bike. 

Yesterday was good for the series, especially since Jett doesn't appear to be hurt. We are in for some battles. 

Please dude. AP put a gap on 2nd place all moto long and got passed at the last second of the race and you think Jett...

Please dude. AP put a gap on 2nd place all moto long and got passed at the last second of the race and you think Jett would of succumbed to Chase? AP is not even in the same zipcode as Jett, Chase would of came in 2nd...again. Jett crashed because its easy to lose focus when your competition is weak and your IG dms are full of the finest tail known to man.

Chase should count his lucky stars because these "battles" will only be a thing until Jett has recovered then back to the struggle bus for box-faced underbite man.

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What pray tell would Webb out there do against Chase? Other than get lapped, of course. 

Herr Lich wrote:
Exactly. Why does anyone even bring up Webb's name when it comes to outdoors? He's right where he wants to be this summer. 

Exactly. Why does anyone even bring up Webb's name when it comes to outdoors?

He's right where he wants to be this summer. 

Herr Lich wrote:

All you downvoting fucks know this is exactly what Cooper 'never bothers racing outdoors for a whole season' Webb is doing. 

I like someone bringing up AP.  Just because he got passed at the last minute and wasn’t running Chase’s pace doesn’t mean he wasn’t hauling or putting in good rides to pressure both Chase and Jett into having to force their pace.  

This is the first time we’ve seen Jett make a mistake in MX and have Chase in front of him for even a lap but that’s all it takes sometimes.  Jett may go back to cruise control and if so we still have Chase, Hunter, and probably AP wanting to duke it out for the podium.  

Start thinking about your fantasy pics.  I hope they keep it clean but if they see Jett hobbling around they may not be as nice and put a few traditional block passes on him that he has been able to outrun so far with good outdoor starts.  SX proved he’s not a machine and has to ride near perfect to hold these guys behind him.

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chuck356 wrote:

  I think Ricky did on a KX125 in his last 125 season.

Bamski wrote:
Please don’t roast me too bad if I’m wrong.  I can’t remember the year, and I joined just to answer this question and agree with chuck356...

Please don’t roast me too bad if I’m wrong. 
I can’t remember the year, and I joined just to answer this question and agree with chuck356, but I was at the St. Louis SX and saw Carmichael leading, crash, and go to last, then get back to first place again. 

Hey, I’m old, so bear with me. My iffy memory wants to say he did it twice!. 
I know he was leading, crashed into last TWICE, then I THINK he got back to first twice. 
He for sure crashed 2 times, but I’m thinking he came back and won from last THE SECOND time.
Hoping someone else was there to verify of jog my memory. I do remember being amazed at the whole ordeal! Gives new meaning to the whole go big or go home phrase….

Looking back and watching races again RC had a lot of crashes and challengers that makes people call him the goat.  Most riders would back it down but he still hung it out like Stew did.  Call them stupid or warriors willing to risk it all to win it all.  People were surprised to see Jett take a risk like “he doesn’t have to” but most of the winners in history even if smooth had to push the edge or come up with a new style or strategy.  Only a couple could make it look easy and not crash their way to #1.  Technically Chase still had 1 crash in the moto even though he rode insane afterward.  If he can keep it on 2 wheels he may have more for Jett like RC has been picking on him for years but RC rode wide open too and Chase already has a #1 plate now towards success.  

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6/3/2024 12:40am Edited Date/Time 6/3/2024 12:41am
Those of you talking depleted field and Jett went down and blah blah blah...get real. Can't help but think you are more recent fans or at...

Those of you talking depleted field and Jett went down and blah blah blah...get real. Can't help but think you are more recent fans or at least a newer generation. 

Pay attention to the guys who've been around a while, who watched Stew in 2002, or even 2014 in Toronto. The guys who have seen more races than you "Jett is unbeatable" guys, we aren't biased when it comes to generational RIDES like Sextons yesterday. 

That was a nasty track that bit two of the best riders in the series in one day, and Chase found the edge and put in a ride that will go down as one of the best ever.

You don't have to be a Jett hater or a Chase fanboy to acknowledge that fact. Just enjoy what you got to see yesterday, and we'll move on to the rest of the series.

I'm a fan of Jett AND Chase. Jett committed an unforced error and it bit him hard, but hopefully not hard enough to mess with the rest of the series. Chase HAD to have gained some confidence in himself and the bike. 

Yesterday was good for the series, especially since Jett doesn't appear to be hurt. We are in for some battles. 

Please dude. AP put a gap on 2nd place all moto long and got passed at the last second of the race and you think Jett...

Please dude. AP put a gap on 2nd place all moto long and got passed at the last second of the race and you think Jett would of succumbed to Chase? AP is not even in the same zipcode as Jett, Chase would of came in 2nd...again. Jett crashed because its easy to lose focus when your competition is weak and your IG dms are full of the finest tail known to man.

Chase should count his lucky stars because these "battles" will only be a thing until Jett has recovered then back to the struggle bus for box-faced underbite man.

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Pretty boys get pretty girls.  Racers talk best with their helmets on to impress with gutsy rides.  Name your top 5 riders with the most passes who pull chicks I am sure LaRocco would have made a list coming off broken bones and passing most of the field with bad starts.  Neck Jett can hold a pace doing nose wheelies with a donut in his mouth but wait a few years for Deegs to punt them like a foot baller.  Is she under teen arrest with the brick wall lol?

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I am not a Jett golf ball waxer but I just noticed he got a 6th in Moto 2 despite a fresh injury and boss says he ain’t hurt so this may not be as new of a season for the fantasy people unfortunately with Chase still doing his patented slide-outs.  It was fun to watch a good comeback but that’s what it was: a comeback after another crash.

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Dave Thorpe, 1985 British 500 GP. He got knocked down on the first corner, got up last and cut through the whole field to take the lead within 4 laps. On an old-school, grassy, off-camber rough-as-guts track where passing was supposed to be difficult.

I was there that day as a 15 year old and it was incredible; I've never experienced anything like it since. You could hear where he was on the track just by following the roar of the crowd.

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Dave Thorpe, 1985 British 500 GP. He got knocked down on the first corner, got up last and cut through the whole field to take the...

Dave Thorpe, 1985 British 500 GP. He got knocked down on the first corner, got up last and cut through the whole field to take the lead within 4 laps. On an old-school, grassy, off-camber rough-as-guts track where passing was supposed to be difficult.

I was there that day as a 15 year old and it was incredible; I've never experienced anything like it since. You could hear where he was on the track just by following the roar of the crowd.

Do they still have 500’s?  I can’t remember the last 2 stroke must have been the 80’s other than the Rm-Zilla. England has a good spirit despite the weather.  The stadium must be epic.  Come to think of it there must have been a race where Pastrana fell and knocked himself silly and come back blowing by everyone.

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That may be correct. 

davis224 wrote:

I think he had a few down behind him, might have been 35th or so

ShipLap wrote:

Herlings was 14th after the first lap.

Herlings and Freddie (who caused the crash) where last. When they got up. Herlings got away just before Noren so he was 39th?

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davis224 wrote:

I think he had a few down behind him, might have been 35th or so

ShipLap wrote:

Herlings was 14th after the first lap.

Sideways wrote:

Herlings and Freddie (who caused the crash) where last. When they got up. Herlings got away just before Noren so he was 39th?

Musquin had an off track excursion with a pretty healthy lead too in the waning moments ... but all part of it I guess. 

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ShipLap wrote:

Herlings was 14th after the first lap.

Sideways wrote:

Herlings and Freddie (who caused the crash) where last. When they got up. Herlings got away just before Noren so he was 39th?

ATKpilot99 wrote:

Musquin had an off track excursion with a pretty healthy lead too in the waning moments ... but all part of it I guess. 

Musquin was so famous for going off track I thought it was slapstick part of the show.

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Those of you talking depleted field and Jett went down and blah blah blah...get real. Can't help but think you are more recent fans or at...

Those of you talking depleted field and Jett went down and blah blah blah...get real. Can't help but think you are more recent fans or at least a newer generation. 

Pay attention to the guys who've been around a while, who watched Stew in 2002, or even 2014 in Toronto. The guys who have seen more races than you "Jett is unbeatable" guys, we aren't biased when it comes to generational RIDES like Sextons yesterday. 

That was a nasty track that bit two of the best riders in the series in one day, and Chase found the edge and put in a ride that will go down as one of the best ever.

You don't have to be a Jett hater or a Chase fanboy to acknowledge that fact. Just enjoy what you got to see yesterday, and we'll move on to the rest of the series.

I'm a fan of Jett AND Chase. Jett committed an unforced error and it bit him hard, but hopefully not hard enough to mess with the rest of the series. Chase HAD to have gained some confidence in himself and the bike. 

Yesterday was good for the series, especially since Jett doesn't appear to be hurt. We are in for some battles. 

Please dude. AP put a gap on 2nd place all moto long and got passed at the last second of the race and you think Jett...

Please dude. AP put a gap on 2nd place all moto long and got passed at the last second of the race and you think Jett would of succumbed to Chase? AP is not even in the same zipcode as Jett, Chase would of came in 2nd...again. Jett crashed because its easy to lose focus when your competition is weak and your IG dms are full of the finest tail known to man.

Chase should count his lucky stars because these "battles" will only be a thing until Jett has recovered then back to the struggle bus for box-faced underbite man.

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6/3/2024 5:38am Edited Date/Time 6/3/2024 5:39am
Dave Thorpe, 1985 British 500 GP. He got knocked down on the first corner, got up last and cut through the whole field to take the...

Dave Thorpe, 1985 British 500 GP. He got knocked down on the first corner, got up last and cut through the whole field to take the lead within 4 laps. On an old-school, grassy, off-camber rough-as-guts track where passing was supposed to be difficult.

I was there that day as a 15 year old and it was incredible; I've never experienced anything like it since. You could hear where he was on the track just by following the roar of the crowd.

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Do they still have 500’s?  I can’t remember the last 2 stroke must have been the 80’s other than the Rm-Zilla. England has a good spirit...

Do they still have 500’s?  I can’t remember the last 2 stroke must have been the 80’s other than the Rm-Zilla. England has a good spirit despite the weather.  The stadium must be epic.  Come to think of it there must have been a race where Pastrana fell and knocked himself silly and come back blowing by everyone.

There's a lot of 500's being raced in the UK despite them not being built for decades. Good ones sell for big money and yet there was a time when you couldn't give them away.

I knew a guy who worked at the UK Kawasaki headquarters when they put their focus on 250's around the early '90's. They ordered a few skips and literally threw all their dismantled 500's in as they were no longer needed. Those skips would be literal gold mines now lol

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The dunge almost did it...

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Was that the southwick race where the rest of the field got close to minutes head start in the rain for Dungey and he climbed back...

Was that the southwick race where the rest of the field got close to minutes head start in the rain for Dungey and he climbed back to about 7th?

dsmith wrote:

Pretty sure..and I think he was standing with his mom all pissed..then his mechanic rode his bike to the gate.???

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Chase's ride was one for the ages. Glad to see it in person.

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Was that the southwick race where the rest of the field got close to minutes head start in the rain for Dungey and he climbed back...

Was that the southwick race where the rest of the field got close to minutes head start in the rain for Dungey and he climbed back to about 7th?

dsmith wrote:

Pretty sure..and I think he was standing with his mom all pissed..then his mechanic rode his bike to the gate.???

ShipLap wrote:

Dungey's ride that day was historic and it ranks right up there with any of the all-time great rides, even if it only resulted in an overall podium for the day. 

That photo is iconic, too. She went from Mama to Mama Bear as soon as that engine fired up. 

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Dave Thorpe, 1985 British 500 GP. He got knocked down on the first corner, got up last and cut through the whole field to take the...

Dave Thorpe, 1985 British 500 GP. He got knocked down on the first corner, got up last and cut through the whole field to take the lead within 4 laps. On an old-school, grassy, off-camber rough-as-guts track where passing was supposed to be difficult.

I was there that day as a 15 year old and it was incredible; I've never experienced anything like it since. You could hear where he was on the track just by following the roar of the crowd.

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Do they still have 500’s?  I can’t remember the last 2 stroke must have been the 80’s other than the Rm-Zilla. England has a good spirit...

Do they still have 500’s?  I can’t remember the last 2 stroke must have been the 80’s other than the Rm-Zilla. England has a good spirit despite the weather.  The stadium must be epic.  Come to think of it there must have been a race where Pastrana fell and knocked himself silly and come back blowing by everyone.

There's a lot of 500's being raced in the UK despite them not being built for decades. Good ones sell for big money and yet there...

There's a lot of 500's being raced in the UK despite them not being built for decades. Good ones sell for big money and yet there was a time when you couldn't give them away.

I knew a guy who worked at the UK Kawasaki headquarters when they put their focus on 250's around the early '90's. They ordered a few skips and literally threw all their dismantled 500's in as they were no longer needed. Those skips would be literal gold mines now lol

You can’t compare the beast sound of a 500

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Tumic wrote:

Statistics say otherwise. This was a awsome ride from Chase, but both him and we know why he could manage to do it. 

Statistics? What did the statistics say about Jett holeshot to: eat shit combo? 
 

I hope he’s better next race and I hope chase has high confidence so we can see some good racing. 

my money’d be on chase 

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Was that the southwick race where the rest of the field got close to minutes head start in the rain for Dungey and he climbed back...

Was that the southwick race where the rest of the field got close to minutes head start in the rain for Dungey and he climbed back to about 7th?

dsmith wrote:

Pretty sure..and I think he was standing with his mom all pissed..then his mechanic rode his bike to the gate.???

ShipLap wrote:

Is mom yelling “you forgot your umbrella” or  “top 5 or no dinner”.

“Just because you are 2 laps down is no excuse to not win” or “just don’t get in the main line or get roosted and you will be fine”.

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2017 Ironman. One dude named Jeffrey with a borrowed bike and never seen the track before in his life.

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6/3/2024 8:09am Edited Date/Time 6/3/2024 8:14am
Tumic wrote:

Statistics say otherwise. This was a awsome ride from Chase, but both him and we know why he could manage to do it. 

bama205 wrote:
Statistics? What did the statistics say about Jett holeshot to: eat shit combo?    I hope he’s better next race and I hope chase has high...

Statistics? What did the statistics say about Jett holeshot to: eat shit combo? 
 

I hope he’s better next race and I hope chase has high confidence so we can see some good racing. 

my money’d be on chase 

1 misjudge crash after Jett being undefeated winning every championship versus Chase crashing all over the tv screen each race still not passing or starting ahead and now your money is going on Chase with Jett having no claimed injury and basically a top 5 within hours of crashing.  Double check your donut stocks and bonds investments.

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6/3/2024 8:23am

A few years ago, I think Mark Barnett did it in 1981 125cc GP mid Ohio second moto

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6/3/2024 8:28am

A few years ago, I think Mark Barnett did it in 1981 125cc GP mid Ohio second moto

I could picture Dowdy picking his way through the pack not stopping till the checkers or McGrath could have tipped over in the 1st turn and passed everyone.

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