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Lawyers for insurance companies will be the death blow to any public moto tracks, and probably most private ones too.
For me it was the closest track and I adjusted how I went through that section after having a few close calls. With that said, I was one who expressed concern for others possibility of going over the side and even worse the possibility of going over and hitting a kid on the kids track below. It was met with "we are one of the safest track in Southern California."
With the way point #3 works, I am amazed we are still able to do any high risk activities in this country. What these insurance companies get away with is pretty wild.
Thanks for the summary. This thread was getting really confusing.
We have enough trouble from outside our sport to have someone on the inside fucking it up. I'm shocked to hear this to be honest. Of all people, I'd have never guessed it to be him. He always seemed like a stand-up guy that loved the sport. Anyone that rides and sues a track is a PC of sh*t. Absolutely no excuse!! You take a chance each time you ride and you know the risk.
I was a loyal EXS brand wearer but will never wear them again.
This is sickening. The moto world had to know about this and how he hasn't been blackballed is insane.
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Exactly. Round up everyone in the pits and go up to the promoter and demand your money back if they won’t change a section “all” feel is unsafe
Which track was this accident on?
For everyone who says they're throwing away their Eks Brand goggles, I'll take them.
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Wait inaccuracies in something Kooksey reports....you don't say...
You may want to take the time to read the whole thread....
I'm trying to think what part of the Vet track where the accident occurred.
It's mind boggling how many of you just completely ignore that it's VERY VERY VERY likely that Rich had nothing to do with the lawsuit.
But hey....keep that outrage going broskis....feel free to DM for a shipping address for those EKS Brand goggles ya'll are throwing away.
Seriously! How some people make it through life shocks me....
Top section. It was a long straightaway that had 1 or 2 jumps before it went downhill into the left 180 on the side of the hill, had a small jump into a right hand corner before heading back down the hill to the front straight with the 3 tables.
I had a pretty serious injury I got an ambulance ride for about two years ago. I had to answer all the same questions about who was involved, where it occurred, etc. I got landed on by another rider, but filled out the form stating that I was the only person involved in recreational riding at the track. They paid the bills and I never heard anything about it again. I can promise you that the form that was filled out didn't ask if the injury occurred in a "sketchy" section of the track.
You'd think that with all "journalists" in the sport that someone could get to the bottom of this. Even if an NDA prevents Rich from coming on here himself to discuss this, I'd bet he could feed enough information to one of these "journalists" to steer them in the right direction to uncover the truth. I've always liked Rich and his products and I really want to know that this is just BS.
Oh wait, I just saw the EKS brand banner in the upper right corner of my screen...
It's called subrogation, and every insurance company does it. For example: you get hurt at a business and break your leg. Your health insurance will pay out to fix your leg and then go after the business's insurance to cover the bills if they can prove that they were negligent/liable/whatever.
Yeah that's called insurance fraud you may want to delete that first part....This was discussed on a pulp show a few years ago...leave it up to Kooksey to get everyone riled up with misinformation and half truths...I'm amazed that people actually watch and pay attention to that clown....
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ML posted that he has reached out to the track and Rich. the track had nothing to say . Rich was talking to his Lawyer to see what he could say.
Wouldn't you rather wait a little bit to hear a direct quote from Rich, rather than some round about vaguely worded undisclosed source being quoted or hinted at? Give him more than a couple hours to make sure he's not going to say something that makes it even worse for him. ML has posted with what he knows to be true. And said that he is still working on getting more info. In Cali its still only what 11 am?
I wrecked at a hare scramble last fall and broke my arm and dislocated my shoulder. No surgery, but had an ER visit to reset the shoulder and two months worth of PT. My wife is still getting letters/emails from our insurance wanting more details about my wreck. I'm guessing they are digging to see if we'll provide more information for them to attempt to sue the promoter and/or land owner. I'm not going to do any of that, but I could see the Taylor family having nothing to do with the lawsuit. Maybe they are 100% behind it IDK just giving another perspective. But, I can't see him shitting on a track and risking his business/name for a couple hundred grand.
This. 100%.
I broke my foot in my own woods about 10 years ago and went to the hospital. I told them I did it in my backyard on my dirtbike.
I had a few phone calls and at least one letter wanting more information about where it occurred. The lady on the last phone call even went so far to tell me she didn't believe I was riding in my backyard to obtain that type of injury. I finally told her I paid premiums monthly to her company as well as my homeowners insurance in case these things happen and for her to do her job and pay the bill or I'd be shopping new providers.
"Jounalist"
People have been saying that for almost 50 years.
If there was a settlement that included a confidentiality clause, disclosing information privately to a journalist is no different than broadcasting the same information on social media.
That being said there is nothing in the public record to indicate the case has been settled, it is currently set for trial in August. I wish Dan would answer my question (just kidding, he knows why I asked and I know why he won't answer).
Amazing the journalist can “speculate” on rider salaries which I’m sure are protected by NDA but when it comes to something controversial the NDA is the trump card for getting out of a discussion about the subject
Bah, that's too boring. It's much more fun to think LACR and/or the Taylor's are pieces of shit! I'm gonna send them some hate mail. Now where is my dark red crayon...
That doesn't even make sense, but hey....keep that hate flowing even though it's clear you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
My good ole Uncle Don joining the party.
You must be a joy to be around. I don’t like tracks getting sued either but if other moto guys say something is sketchy, it’s sketchy. If they were told and saw crashes and didn’t change that. That’s negligence. If it was my buddy I don’t think I would be telling him well bro you know what you signed up for.
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