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I never knew this was the reason for that. That's crazy. Is LACR in jeopardy of shutting down permanently over this nonsense? Is there anything we can do to help? I ride there frequently but don't know any of the staff. Had no idea any of this was going on
I haven't read this whole thread but if Cooksey has report anything incorrectly then it will be foolish for RT or EKS to issue any press release.....the Courts will set the record straight.
You said it yourself..." I'm not buying anything more from them until I hear something....."
If RT or EKS prove deformation or whatever and win then they will Issue a press release. Anything before will be premature and will effect a court case.
I'm so confused....let me try to figure it out....
So Rich Taylor was racing a PW 50 to help his son qualify for Loretta's at a Loretta Lynn's Qualifier at LACR but LACR has never hosted a Loretta Lynn's Qualifier so a kid on a big bike jumped on Rich and now Rich's son is suing LACR because he didn't qualify for Loretta Lynns because he didn't sign a waiver for a the Qualifier that never happened?
The way everything from two separate lawsuits is getting put together, you pretty much nailed it!
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There’s a lot of things you can lie about when talking about other people on the Internet, but smearing a company and family in this way, would not be one of them. I mean you can jumble the names and facts a little but overall this would be very provable defamation in any court, especially when you have a platform. It would end Chris Cooksey if it wasn’t true. I mean, I doubt Chris thinks Rich is scared to sue him lol.
Well, then I'm never buying a PW50 again!
I received pretty much the same letter 21 years ago after an ER visit led to 5 days in the hospital. I told them I crashed on my own and they kept right on paying. The meat wagon ride from the track made it difficult to hide what I'd been doing to get injured.
I just lit mine on fire in my front yard with all of my Utopia Goggle piled on top.
I just dug through the Cooksey video....let's clear up a few inaccuracies.
1. It wasn't a Loretta Lynn Regional, the younger Taylor brother only attempted LL one time on 85s and never tried for it again. The crash was at a Road to Mammoth race in late February of 2017.
2. The 15 foot down side berm was actually around 40-50 feet down a cliff/steep hillside. I remember the crash area because it was insanely sketchy how the section was built and I personally swapped and almost ate shit off that corner around two weeks before. Donn Maeda crashed in the same section the week prior at a Transworld race and requested the section be changed because he almost flew off the same cliff. Looking down the section you'd fly off, literally, scared the hell out of me...
3. The most obvious thing that can't be overlooked when you look up basic court docs, when injured if the injured party has major medical bills, the insurance company will sue anyone and everything attached to the incident to recoop their loss on the payout. The lawsuit is filed under the injured person's name, not the insurance company's name. If the injured party doesn't co-operate with the lawsuit, they will suspend payments to medical bills, etc.
Shitty part is most of this falls under NDAs and unless someone wants to get sued...it's hard to release details of the case itself.
4. Injuries to Zach were pretty severe, it wasn't just a broken pelvis. His total broken bone count was around 30. Shattered both ankles, his wrists, broken toes, broken sacrum, broken pelvis, collapsed a lung, and a ruptured bladder. He had three blood transfusions, and actually flat-lined at the hopsital. He was fucked up, over three weeks in UCLA hospital.
5. Rich would've gone to the hospital with Zach with the severity of his injuries, he's also over 200 pounds trying to pose as his 120lb 13 year old son the same day? Again, this was in late February, there was only one are qualifier for LL that had happened that year before that date, that was at ACP. There was no area or regional qualifiers for LL scheduled at LACR in 2017
Thanks Michael. A journalist I can trust.
All I heard here was, the Taylors did sue the track, and did collect a shit ton of money (neither were in ML's list of "inaccuracies" and matter the most in the end on this one) I also heard in that post that the section was well known and the Taylor's signed up, raced a dangerous dirt bike and assumed the risks.
I'm sorry but something like a water truck or dozer going backwards on the track or similar negligence in my mind is the only thing that excuses suing a track. The Taylor's have been in the sport a long time, and they definitely know how to walk a track and walk away from a track if they think it's too dangerous. I have no clue how much of what Cooksey said is true, but I now know 100% Rich Taylor and son sued LACR after Zach crashed on a track they knew well.
Thanks ML! Couldn't remember how many bones Zach broke, but I knew it was a lot and knew he was off the bike for a long time.
Didn't know both you and Don had near misses with that section, but I do know a lot of people voiced their opinions and concerns which pretty much seemed to fall on deaf ears. I had a few sketchy moments there myself and watched many others.
If that's all you got from ML's post, then you need to re-read. It says SPECIFICALLY that the suit will be in the injured parties name even if the insurance company files suit. Not cooperating with the company stops payment of all claims from the Insurance to the injured party.
I cut myself working on a clothes drier and got the same letter. No, I wasn't at work. No I was not an outside contractor, it was privately owned dryer.
I crashed at Elsinore and lumped myself up pretty good, 3rd degree AC separation like AC9. Another questionnaire. My bike, my fault, I signed a release. Never heard another thing.
This could be posted 1,000,000,000 times and it wouldn't matter. It's 2024 and every day is a new day to get a lynch mob fired up and cancel someone.
What a time to be alive.
Where did you hear he collected a shit ton of money?
Remember the Terry Varner fiasco? None of the "names" in the moto media wanted to talk about it. Some were endorsing him while there was a 15 page thread hear of unhappy customers.
Alright, you guys are right. ML says it's okay, so it's ok. Nothing to see here.
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I didn't say anything was okay, I just pointed out inaccuracies and commented that lawsuits need to be taken with a grain of salt since info is scarce.
It's up to everyone to make an opinion, if they want to, from the information provided. Or just read, it's just information.
Can't answer the question so your gonna deflect like it's someone elses problem huh? Classic.
Seemed like with the shit you talked it woulda been a pretty simple question to answer but I guess it's just easier to deflect and keep talking shit when you don't actually know what the fuck you're talking about.
Let me reiterate one major thing. I can't confirm who is behind the lawsuit, the family or the insurance company. I'm just pointing out how it can work and to weigh that. I've had friends go through similar, so I've seen it first hand.
I would bet that it is the insurance company that sued . Like others have said , its in every insurance contract.
I had a friend crash and pass away at another friend's track. His life insurance sued the track. Even though his fiancée objected. I do not know any other details.
I am going to give Rich the benefit of the doubt, and assume that its his insurance company that sued and NOT him.
Cooksey's explanation seems to be missing info or presenting it in a way that gets attention and mostly for views. I don't watch a lot of his stuff because I always get the feeling that he is using his platform to get back at people he has some problem with. His reporting seems overly personal.
I don't blame other places for not reporting on it if there are many unknown things and they are unable to get quotes from the Taylors , his lawyer or insurance company. Reporting on it without knowing all the facts could make the wrong person look like the bad guy. It was pointed out on here in the first or second page that it was most likely the insurance company. And people are still calling to cancel Rich and his company.
I called the track, they won't comment and said they can't say much. Rich is talking to a lawyer to see what he can and can't talk about due to the NDA.
Yes. I'm sorry I worded that in that manner. I was inferring that even if the Ins. Co. filed suit, it would be in the injured party's name and not the company. The same as you had stated.
Huh? You said he "did collect a shit ton of money", I was curious where you heard that piece of information. I didn't say anything about ML's post.
I honestly have no idea. I'm not close with the folks who own the track... There was just a bit of uproar and whisperings going around at the time.
Also, people complaining about a sketchy section of a track, yet continuing to ride said track... Peak human behavior.
I was thinking that they were unable to give you any info on it . Not that You had not tried to get the info. I was assuming there were NDA's involved like just about everything these days. Thank You for going above any beyond to make things as clear as possible.
If it is Rich's insurance that brought the suit , he was doing the right thing by having medical coverage . And then they turn around and make him look bad and possibly do a lot of damage to his companies name. I hope that whatever the truth is, that it is able to be reported. And I hope that his kid has fully recovered.
I understand why You are commenting on here with the limited info You have.
Unfortunately, I can see this and many other situations be the reason so many more tracks may close down. We know the risks. Insurance companies don't care and will still go after the track
Man, this whole situation bums me out.
I get support from EKS and have for a long time. Love their products.
I've seen the shit insurance companies do to keep their pockets fat, if he had to get carted out from the track its harder to push the "I did it mountain biking" cover up we do in this sport.
When I lacerated my kidney a couple years ago, my wife who doesn't really understand told them I did it riding a dirt bike and it became a huge pain in the ass.
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