2024 Kawasaki KX450 and KX450X

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5/16/2024 5:09pm

Two different local dealers blowing out 450s. A standard edition for $78xx otd and an anniversary edition for $7700 otd. 

5/16/2024 5:53pm
denis26 wrote:
Hi guys, yesterday my motorbike and that of a friend of mine arrived, as regards the recall to the frame I noticed that one had an...

Hi guys, yesterday my motorbike and that of a friend of mine arrived, as regards the recall to the frame I noticed that one had an additional weld done while on the other unfortunately they used putty.

Have any of you had fractures even after putting the putty on?

None have been reported here.  I haven’t heard of any at all.

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5/17/2024 6:06am
wrc777 wrote:

Two different local dealers blowing out 450s. A standard edition for $78xx otd and an anniversary edition for $7700 otd. 

My local dealership.. same one purchased from twice now on discount no hidden fees, just oay state tax and $99 doc fee 

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5/17/2024 2:27pm

FWIW, I did 15cc of fork oil and loved it as a 185# Vet B. I’m on the edge of needing some suspension work, it will just barely bottom on some G-outs, but only if I’m pushing. This is some of the best stock suspension I’ve ever ridden. 

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5/17/2024 6:23pm

I know  this answer is somewhere in the 55 pages.  When you send a map how Do you tell if it’s map 1 or 2 ? How do I know it’s loaded ? 

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5/17/2024 9:50pm
49weasel wrote:
I know  this answer is somewhere in the 55 pages.  When you send a map how Do you tell if it’s map 1 or 2...

I know  this answer is somewhere in the 55 pages.  When you send a map how Do you tell if it’s map 1 or 2 ? How do I know it’s loaded ? 

This is where the app is definitely not as good as the yamaha one. The map will get sent to whichever map you have selected on the map switch, I haven't seen anywhere in the app that it will actually tell you which map it is. The way I check if it is loaded is when the bike is running if you go to the monitor part you can see the fuel or ignition change as you rev the bike. It should change to the corresponding amount you changed on the map. Hope this makes sense.

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5/17/2024 10:35pm
49weasel wrote:
I know  this answer is somewhere in the 55 pages.  When you send a map how Do you tell if it’s map 1 or 2...

I know  this answer is somewhere in the 55 pages.  When you send a map how Do you tell if it’s map 1 or 2 ? How do I know it’s loaded ? 

Blue light stays on in map 2....... Oh wait, wrong one. Lol

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5/18/2024 4:48am
Meister wrote:

Blue light stays on in map 2....... Oh wait, wrong one. Lol

Down vote. lol 

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Whats your thoughts on the Showa suspension? 

Might go from yami to kawi.. the only thing I am not sure about is the suspension. Love the kyb.. plush with good hold up. Is it possible to get that feeling with the Showa? 

5/18/2024 2:57pm
mx4all wrote:
Whats your thoughts on the Showa suspension?  Might go from yami to kawi.. the only thing I am not sure about is the suspension. Love the...

Whats your thoughts on the Showa suspension? 

Might go from yami to kawi.. the only thing I am not sure about is the suspension. Love the kyb.. plush with good hold up. Is it possible to get that feeling with the Showa? 

In my opinion the kyb is a “plusher” feel on the initial part of the stroke. BUT the showa is much better on flat landers and more confidence inspiring jumping singles to flat 

 

just my .02

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5/19/2024 7:07am
mx4all wrote:
Whats your thoughts on the Showa suspension?  Might go from yami to kawi.. the only thing I am not sure about is the suspension. Love the...

Whats your thoughts on the Showa suspension? 

Might go from yami to kawi.. the only thing I am not sure about is the suspension. Love the kyb.. plush with good hold up. Is it possible to get that feeling with the Showa? 

In my opinion the kyb is a “plusher” feel on the initial part of the stroke. BUT the showa is much better on flat landers and...

In my opinion the kyb is a “plusher” feel on the initial part of the stroke. BUT the showa is much better on flat landers and more confidence inspiring jumping singles to flat 

 

just my .02

Ok thank you! Are the rider triangle more cramped on the 24 compared to 23 or same? 

 

5/19/2024 7:14am
mx4all wrote:
Whats your thoughts on the Showa suspension?  Might go from yami to kawi.. the only thing I am not sure about is the suspension. Love the...

Whats your thoughts on the Showa suspension? 

Might go from yami to kawi.. the only thing I am not sure about is the suspension. Love the kyb.. plush with good hold up. Is it possible to get that feeling with the Showa? 

In my opinion the kyb is a “plusher” feel on the initial part of the stroke. BUT the showa is much better on flat landers and...

In my opinion the kyb is a “plusher” feel on the initial part of the stroke. BUT the showa is much better on flat landers and more confidence inspiring jumping singles to flat 

 

just my .02

mx4all wrote:

Ok thank you! Are the rider triangle more cramped on the 24 compared to 23 or same? 

 

At nearly 6’4”, I can confirm it is the same (and the only brand I am comfortable on).  Better yet, the smooth body work doesn’t catch my knees anymore.

5/19/2024 7:45am
mx4all wrote:
Whats your thoughts on the Showa suspension?  Might go from yami to kawi.. the only thing I am not sure about is the suspension. Love the...

Whats your thoughts on the Showa suspension? 

Might go from yami to kawi.. the only thing I am not sure about is the suspension. Love the kyb.. plush with good hold up. Is it possible to get that feeling with the Showa? 

In my opinion the kyb is a “plusher” feel on the initial part of the stroke. BUT the showa is much better on flat landers and...

In my opinion the kyb is a “plusher” feel on the initial part of the stroke. BUT the showa is much better on flat landers and more confidence inspiring jumping singles to flat 

 

just my .02

mx4all wrote:

Ok thank you! Are the rider triangle more cramped on the 24 compared to 23 or same? 

 

Hard for me to give an exact on it but I can say I am very comfy on the bike. I changed bar bends from my 19 to now. So that might be why I feel better on the bike now vs then. But as mentioned above the body work is very appealing to riding. 

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In my opinion the kyb is a “plusher” feel on the initial part of the stroke. BUT the showa is much better on flat landers and...

In my opinion the kyb is a “plusher” feel on the initial part of the stroke. BUT the showa is much better on flat landers and more confidence inspiring jumping singles to flat 

 

just my .02

mx4all wrote:

Ok thank you! Are the rider triangle more cramped on the 24 compared to 23 or same? 

 

At nearly 6’4”, I can confirm it is the same (and the only brand I am comfortable on).  Better yet, the smooth body work doesn’t catch...

At nearly 6’4”, I can confirm it is the same (and the only brand I am comfortable on).  Better yet, the smooth body work doesn’t catch my knees anymore.

Ok sounds good Smile 

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5/19/2024 5:16pm
mx4all wrote:
Whats your thoughts on the Showa suspension?  Might go from yami to kawi.. the only thing I am not sure about is the suspension. Love the...

Whats your thoughts on the Showa suspension? 

Might go from yami to kawi.. the only thing I am not sure about is the suspension. Love the kyb.. plush with good hold up. Is it possible to get that feeling with the Showa? 

I came from a 23 yamy 450 to the kx and also have a 23 350sxf with kyb forks. I love the kyb feel, very plush up top but still with good bottoming resistance. After my second revalve on the kx forks I will say I am very happy with them. Still not quite the plushness of the kybs but alot of confidence on the bigger hits. Overall I like the kx alot more than the yamaha, but still not sure if I like it more than the 350. 

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5/19/2024 6:36pm
mx4all wrote:
Whats your thoughts on the Showa suspension?  Might go from yami to kawi.. the only thing I am not sure about is the suspension. Love the...

Whats your thoughts on the Showa suspension? 

Might go from yami to kawi.. the only thing I am not sure about is the suspension. Love the kyb.. plush with good hold up. Is it possible to get that feeling with the Showa? 

Smith246 wrote:
I came from a 23 yamy 450 to the kx and also have a 23 350sxf with kyb forks. I love the kyb feel, very plush...

I came from a 23 yamy 450 to the kx and also have a 23 350sxf with kyb forks. I love the kyb feel, very plush up top but still with good bottoming resistance. After my second revalve on the kx forks I will say I am very happy with them. Still not quite the plushness of the kybs but alot of confidence on the bigger hits. Overall I like the kx alot more than the yamaha, but still not sure if I like it more than the 350. 

I’ve got a 24 Yamaha 450. I just rode a 24 Kawi 450 the other day with a few basic mods (no vortex). Tell me why you switched, any reason specifically? Thanks 

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5/19/2024 7:31pm
mx4all wrote:
Whats your thoughts on the Showa suspension?  Might go from yami to kawi.. the only thing I am not sure about is the suspension. Love the...

Whats your thoughts on the Showa suspension? 

Might go from yami to kawi.. the only thing I am not sure about is the suspension. Love the kyb.. plush with good hold up. Is it possible to get that feeling with the Showa? 

Smith246 wrote:
I came from a 23 yamy 450 to the kx and also have a 23 350sxf with kyb forks. I love the kyb feel, very plush...

I came from a 23 yamy 450 to the kx and also have a 23 350sxf with kyb forks. I love the kyb feel, very plush up top but still with good bottoming resistance. After my second revalve on the kx forks I will say I am very happy with them. Still not quite the plushness of the kybs but alot of confidence on the bigger hits. Overall I like the kx alot more than the yamaha, but still not sure if I like it more than the 350. 

707motoman wrote:
I’ve got a 24 Yamaha 450. I just rode a 24 Kawi 450 the other day with a few basic mods (no vortex). Tell me why...

I’ve got a 24 Yamaha 450. I just rode a 24 Kawi 450 the other day with a few basic mods (no vortex). Tell me why you switched, any reason specifically? Thanks 

The yz was a good bike, good suspension and crazy motor (too much for me when track was rough). But after 30hrs on it I just got sick of constantly chasing setup, some days on some tracks it was awesome and then the next time it was horrible. I felt I could get a good suspension setting but was always chasing balance, constantly changing fork height and sag numbers. So took the chance on the kx and was more comfortable on it after the first few rides than 30hrs on the yz. If ktm didn't make 350's I would be all in on the kx and put kyb suspension on it, could possibly make it the perfect 450 for anyone who doesn't need the power of the yamy.

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5/19/2024 7:42pm
Smith246 wrote:
The yz was a good bike, good suspension and crazy motor (too much for me when track was rough). But after 30hrs on it I just...

The yz was a good bike, good suspension and crazy motor (too much for me when track was rough). But after 30hrs on it I just got sick of constantly chasing setup, some days on some tracks it was awesome and then the next time it was horrible. I felt I could get a good suspension setting but was always chasing balance, constantly changing fork height and sag numbers. So took the chance on the kx and was more comfortable on it after the first few rides than 30hrs on the yz. If ktm didn't make 350's I would be all in on the kx and put kyb suspension on it, could possibly make it the perfect 450 for anyone who doesn't need the power of the yamy.

This^^^^^
I have a 24 yz also and just bought a 24 kx450 and experiencing the same thing.  I’ve been a Kawi guy for a bit but after getting hurt and sidelined for awhile I decided to buy a yz.   I was always chasing comfort & never felt 100% on it.   
Minus weighing 240lb and killing the stock suspension the Kawi feels great.  Have PC exhaust coming and I hope that helps with the power.   

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5/19/2024 7:44pm
Smith246 wrote:
I came from a 23 yamy 450 to the kx and also have a 23 350sxf with kyb forks. I love the kyb feel, very plush...

I came from a 23 yamy 450 to the kx and also have a 23 350sxf with kyb forks. I love the kyb feel, very plush up top but still with good bottoming resistance. After my second revalve on the kx forks I will say I am very happy with them. Still not quite the plushness of the kybs but alot of confidence on the bigger hits. Overall I like the kx alot more than the yamaha, but still not sure if I like it more than the 350. 

707motoman wrote:
I’ve got a 24 Yamaha 450. I just rode a 24 Kawi 450 the other day with a few basic mods (no vortex). Tell me why...

I’ve got a 24 Yamaha 450. I just rode a 24 Kawi 450 the other day with a few basic mods (no vortex). Tell me why you switched, any reason specifically? Thanks 

Smith246 wrote:
The yz was a good bike, good suspension and crazy motor (too much for me when track was rough). But after 30hrs on it I just...

The yz was a good bike, good suspension and crazy motor (too much for me when track was rough). But after 30hrs on it I just got sick of constantly chasing setup, some days on some tracks it was awesome and then the next time it was horrible. I felt I could get a good suspension setting but was always chasing balance, constantly changing fork height and sag numbers. So took the chance on the kx and was more comfortable on it after the first few rides than 30hrs on the yz. If ktm didn't make 350's I would be all in on the kx and put kyb suspension on it, could possibly make it the perfect 450 for anyone who doesn't need the power of the yamy.

I’m kinda in the same boat. Have 12 hours on the Yz. Had a 23 350&450sx. Rode my sons 24 yz and thought how much less vibration the yz had and it was better on square edge chop when the track got rough. So I got one and sold both KTM’s. Been all over the place with set up trying to get it to feel like the KTM’s in a turn. Curious of your height/weight/skill? I’m 50 expert 6” 195. I’ve always been able to adapt to different bikes but I’m kinda struggling on this Yamaha. Dumbed it down as much as I can with the app and have been messing with different gearing combos. I appreciate your feedback.

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Smith246 wrote:
The yz was a good bike, good suspension and crazy motor (too much for me when track was rough). But after 30hrs on it I just...

The yz was a good bike, good suspension and crazy motor (too much for me when track was rough). But after 30hrs on it I just got sick of constantly chasing setup, some days on some tracks it was awesome and then the next time it was horrible. I felt I could get a good suspension setting but was always chasing balance, constantly changing fork height and sag numbers. So took the chance on the kx and was more comfortable on it after the first few rides than 30hrs on the yz. If ktm didn't make 350's I would be all in on the kx and put kyb suspension on it, could possibly make it the perfect 450 for anyone who doesn't need the power of the yamy.

49weasel wrote:
This^^^^^ I have a 24 yz also and just bought a 24 kx450 and experiencing the same thing.  I’ve been a Kawi guy for a bit...

This^^^^^
I have a 24 yz also and just bought a 24 kx450 and experiencing the same thing.  I’ve been a Kawi guy for a bit but after getting hurt and sidelined for awhile I decided to buy a yz.   I was always chasing comfort & never felt 100% on it.   
Minus weighing 240lb and killing the stock suspension the Kawi feels great.  Have PC exhaust coming and I hope that helps with the power.   

If you are swapping from the completely stock exhaust you will notice a huge difference. I've also gone up a tooth on the rear and I never use 2nd gear, 3rd, 4th everywhere. 

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707motoman wrote:
I’ve got a 24 Yamaha 450. I just rode a 24 Kawi 450 the other day with a few basic mods (no vortex). Tell me why...

I’ve got a 24 Yamaha 450. I just rode a 24 Kawi 450 the other day with a few basic mods (no vortex). Tell me why you switched, any reason specifically? Thanks 

Smith246 wrote:
The yz was a good bike, good suspension and crazy motor (too much for me when track was rough). But after 30hrs on it I just...

The yz was a good bike, good suspension and crazy motor (too much for me when track was rough). But after 30hrs on it I just got sick of constantly chasing setup, some days on some tracks it was awesome and then the next time it was horrible. I felt I could get a good suspension setting but was always chasing balance, constantly changing fork height and sag numbers. So took the chance on the kx and was more comfortable on it after the first few rides than 30hrs on the yz. If ktm didn't make 350's I would be all in on the kx and put kyb suspension on it, could possibly make it the perfect 450 for anyone who doesn't need the power of the yamy.

707motoman wrote:
I’m kinda in the same boat. Have 12 hours on the Yz. Had a 23 350&450sx. Rode my sons 24 yz and thought how much less...

I’m kinda in the same boat. Have 12 hours on the Yz. Had a 23 350&450sx. Rode my sons 24 yz and thought how much less vibration the yz had and it was better on square edge chop when the track got rough. So I got one and sold both KTM’s. Been all over the place with set up trying to get it to feel like the KTM’s in a turn. Curious of your height/weight/skill? I’m 50 expert 6” 195. I’ve always been able to adapt to different bikes but I’m kinda struggling on this Yamaha. Dumbed it down as much as I can with the app and have been messing with different gearing combos. I appreciate your feedback.

I'm 180cm, 90-95kg and vet B speed (Australia). I kept going more mellow on yz aswell, but I actually ended up most comfortable when I went to 13/52 gearing with more aggressive mapping and running 3rd gear in corners. But ultimately was still never fully happy with it. The new Kx is definitely the best 450 I have ever owned. Kx ergos and just general bike feel to me is better than yamaha or ktm. If they ever make a kx350 ill be first in line, i know the kx is a very mellow 450 but I've definitely come to realise no 450 will ever handle as good as a 350.

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5/20/2024 3:52am

Salve. Mi sapreste dire dove si trova il tappo nell’air box da levare. Magari con una foto grazie 🙏 

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Smith246 wrote:
If you are swapping from the completely stock exhaust you will notice a huge difference. I've also gone up a tooth on the rear and I...

If you are swapping from the completely stock exhaust you will notice a huge difference. I've also gone up a tooth on the rear and I never use 2nd gear, 3rd, 4th everywhere. 

I did cut out all the BS in the muffler.  

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5/20/2024 6:11pm

Salve. Mi sapreste dire dove si trova il tappo nell’air box da levare. Magari con una foto grazie 🙏 

Si. grazie mille 🙏 

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5/20/2024 6:20pm

I was able to get my shock out by just loosing subframe and moving as much as I could but it’s a tighter fit than the last generation. Sure is nice but having to remove tank and subframe. 

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5/20/2024 6:37pm
Smith246 wrote:
If you are swapping from the completely stock exhaust you will notice a huge difference. I've also gone up a tooth on the rear and I...

If you are swapping from the completely stock exhaust you will notice a huge difference. I've also gone up a tooth on the rear and I never use 2nd gear, 3rd, 4th everywhere. 

49weasel wrote:

I did cut out all the BS in the muffler.  

Best 450 I've ever owned. 4.1 slip on, 13-51 final gearing, and stock map. It's stable, turns good, and I can do longer Motos with out getting too tired! Perfect bike for 50+ Vet rider north of 230 pounds. I've ridden the new YZ 450 it's a beast! No thank you.

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Smith246 wrote:
If you are swapping from the completely stock exhaust you will notice a huge difference. I've also gone up a tooth on the rear and I...

If you are swapping from the completely stock exhaust you will notice a huge difference. I've also gone up a tooth on the rear and I never use 2nd gear, 3rd, 4th everywhere. 

49weasel wrote:

I did cut out all the BS in the muffler.  

rpm.15 wrote:
Best 450 I've ever owned. 4.1 slip on, 13-51 final gearing, and stock map. It's stable, turns good, and I can do longer Motos with out...

Best 450 I've ever owned. 4.1 slip on, 13-51 final gearing, and stock map. It's stable, turns good, and I can do longer Motos with out getting too tired! Perfect bike for 50+ Vet rider north of 230 pounds. I've ridden the new YZ 450 it's a beast! No thank you.

I have the same slip on coming. How do you like it over stock?

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49weasel wrote:

I did cut out all the BS in the muffler.  

rpm.15 wrote:
Best 450 I've ever owned. 4.1 slip on, 13-51 final gearing, and stock map. It's stable, turns good, and I can do longer Motos with out...

Best 450 I've ever owned. 4.1 slip on, 13-51 final gearing, and stock map. It's stable, turns good, and I can do longer Motos with out getting too tired! Perfect bike for 50+ Vet rider north of 230 pounds. I've ridden the new YZ 450 it's a beast! No thank you.

I have the same slip on coming. How do you like it over stock?

In my opinion much better than stock. Stock has a funny lag when getting on the gas. That's gone with the 4.1  I run it with the spark arrestor in it. 

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In my opinion much better than stock. Stock has a funny lag when getting on the gas. That's gone with the 4.1  I run it with the...

In my opinion much better than stock. Stock has a funny lag when getting on the gas. That's gone with the 4.1  I run it with the spark arrestor in it. 

What’s the difference between spark arrestor in or out? 

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