California Red/Green Sticker

Gravel
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5/9/2024 4:51pm
183Matt wrote:
I’ve only been to Gorman once and it was on a Monday . The Rangers were way cool that I talked with.  On a Monday it...

I’ve only been to Gorman once and it was on a Monday . The Rangers were way cool that I talked with.  On a Monday it was wild with idiots out there and I could see how it would wear the staff down.

Gravel wrote:
Only time I’ve ever ridden at Gorman was a couple years racing the VCMC qualifier enduro. The sections through the Gorman valley were as scary as...

Only time I’ve ever ridden at Gorman was a couple years racing the VCMC qualifier enduro. The sections through the Gorman valley were as scary as anything I’ve ever ridden, cars, trucks, quads, bikes, all over the course. Had a guy in a pickup literally race me on the flats trying to get to a turn before I got there, on a marked racecourse. 
 

That’s where our green sticker money goes. And I’m kinda okay with that, it keeps the rangers busy there and they mostly leave us alone in other areas. State involvement has never made a riding area better, as far as I’m concerned. 

183Matt wrote:
That’s a wild story!   I tend to agree with you on the state involvement thing,  with the exception that before they started “downsizing” the inmate...

That’s a wild story!
 

I tend to agree with you on the state involvement thing,  with the exception that before they started “downsizing” the inmate fire camps in California,  they provided a crew 4-5 days a week just to do trail work at one of our local OHV facilities (Stonyford/Fouts Springs).  That was definitely beneficial to the OHV community and an example of the State doing good work.

Love to hear about constructive trail work, that’s a great use of trail funds and free labor! In our area most of the trail projects involve hippie college students planting a bunch of red signs (trail closed) on random trail intersections.

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Zeke27G wrote:
The only time I'm getting rolled is if a ranger rolls up to our camp, otherwise if I'm being flagged down on a trail, that S.O.B...

The only time I'm getting rolled is if a ranger rolls up to our camp, otherwise if I'm being flagged down on a trail, that S.O.B. better be Ranger Larry Roeseler. 

That happened to me in Tahoe Forest a couple years back. Just having beers at the campsite in the evening and Ranger Rick shows up and sticks his thing down the silencer of my RM250 to check for spark arrestor (it had one). He asks me if I have registration and I say "no, I ride it on tracks." It was sitting in the back of my truck which supported my story, so he just left. Little did he know I rode it up there all the time.

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I once got popped for expired registration on my bike which was in the back of my truck. The cop stopped me at the inspection station; I didn't even get a speeding ticket. Apparently, you have to have a sticker just to transport a vehicle in California. 

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KurtJ99
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In my limited experience I've been challenged several times by attentive rangers. But this is CA state parts not national forests. 

At Carnegie I was issues a Green Sticker by mistake, Ranger stopped me and even though I had my papers to prove it tied to my bike, he said DMV was wrong, tore the sticker from my bike. 

Will be nice to not deal with this BS. 

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5/10/2024 9:05am
KurtJ99 wrote:
In my limited experience I've been challenged several times by attentive rangers. But this is CA state parts not national forests.  At Carnegie I was issues...

In my limited experience I've been challenged several times by attentive rangers. But this is CA state parts not national forests. 

At Carnegie I was issues a Green Sticker by mistake, Ranger stopped me and even though I had my papers to prove it tied to my bike, he said DMV was wrong, tore the sticker from my bike. 

Will be nice to not deal with this BS. 

I had an '04 CRF450R with a green sticker and they freaked out about it too, but they didn't take my sticker, they took my bike reg and faxed it to DMV and asked them to cancel my green sticker. They let me ride and nothing ever came of it, still got my green sticker every other year. All it really did is make them look like dicks. 

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5/10/2024 9:47am
enketchum wrote:

I usually see sheriffs patrolling the riding area we go to here in socal. 

RichieW13 wrote:

Is that a legal riding area?  Sounds weird that sheriff would patrol a legal area. 

Well this is how it works.  The state doesn’t have enough Rangers to check on legal riding areas.  So the state pays (you) the sheriffs salary...

Well this is how it works.  The state doesn’t have enough Rangers to check on legal riding areas.  So the state pays (you) the sheriffs salary and in most cases it’s time and half.  

You are correct and others shouldn't make dumb comments in areas they do not understand. http://shq.lasdnews.net/pages/pagedetail.aspx?id=837

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5/10/2024 10:01am
RichieW13 wrote:

Is that a legal riding area?  Sounds weird that sheriff would patrol a legal area. 

Well this is how it works.  The state doesn’t have enough Rangers to check on legal riding areas.  So the state pays (you) the sheriffs salary...

Well this is how it works.  The state doesn’t have enough Rangers to check on legal riding areas.  So the state pays (you) the sheriffs salary and in most cases it’s time and half.  

You are correct and others shouldn't make dumb comments in areas they do not understand. http://shq.lasdnews.net/pages/pagedetail.aspx?id=837

That looks like a team whose job it is to pursue people who are riding dirt bikes in illegal areas.

 

"In order to tackle the high volume of off-highway vehicle complaints, the Palmdale Station Off-Highway Vehicle (OHV) team was created "

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I'll be riding my 21' for a long time.

 

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5/10/2024 11:18am
Well this is how it works.  The state doesn’t have enough Rangers to check on legal riding areas.  So the state pays (you) the sheriffs salary...

Well this is how it works.  The state doesn’t have enough Rangers to check on legal riding areas.  So the state pays (you) the sheriffs salary and in most cases it’s time and half.  

You are correct and others shouldn't make dumb comments in areas they do not understand. http://shq.lasdnews.net/pages/pagedetail.aspx?id=837

RichieW13 wrote:
That looks like a team whose job it is to pursue people who are riding dirt bikes in illegal areas.   "In order to tackle the...

That looks like a team whose job it is to pursue people who are riding dirt bikes in illegal areas.

 

"In order to tackle the high volume of off-highway vehicle complaints, the Palmdale Station Off-Highway Vehicle (OHV) team was created "

This just reminded me about last year. We have a local place up in the mountains that people ride to whether on Harley’s, dual sports, crotch rockets or off-roaders(trucks, utv’s, quads and bikes riding legal trails). Coming off of the local trails you have to cross the main road to get to the restaurant. Well rangers sat there waiting for the bikes, quads and utv’s to cross over the road. As soon as wheels touched asphalt the rangers pulled them over and ticketed every one of them. They did this for a few weeks before the local businesses complained.

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Here is a positive solution: As a Cali resident, I took all of my bikes, got a quick Tusk lighting kit with turn signals, headlight/tail light & horn, sent like $50 to the good people of South Dakota, made all of them street legal plated bikes and now tell the ranger man to f off. Have done 6 bikes this way for less than registering 1 bike in CA. Even did a KLX 110 w a big bore kit like this. Getting groceries tonight on my XCF 450 and waved at 5-0 as I cruised home with a sixer. 🤫

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5/10/2024 8:30pm
ktmwoods wrote:
Here is a positive solution: As a Cali resident, I took all of my bikes, got a quick Tusk lighting kit with turn signals, headlight/tail light...

Here is a positive solution: As a Cali resident, I took all of my bikes, got a quick Tusk lighting kit with turn signals, headlight/tail light & horn, sent like $50 to the good people of South Dakota, made all of them street legal plated bikes and now tell the ranger man to f off. Have done 6 bikes this way for less than registering 1 bike in CA. Even did a KLX 110 w a big bore kit like this. Getting groceries tonight on my XCF 450 and waved at 5-0 as I cruised home with a sixer. 🤫

You can register a bike in a state you don't live in?

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5/10/2024 8:38pm
ktmwoods wrote:
Here is a positive solution: As a Cali resident, I took all of my bikes, got a quick Tusk lighting kit with turn signals, headlight/tail light...

Here is a positive solution: As a Cali resident, I took all of my bikes, got a quick Tusk lighting kit with turn signals, headlight/tail light & horn, sent like $50 to the good people of South Dakota, made all of them street legal plated bikes and now tell the ranger man to f off. Have done 6 bikes this way for less than registering 1 bike in CA. Even did a KLX 110 w a big bore kit like this. Getting groceries tonight on my XCF 450 and waved at 5-0 as I cruised home with a sixer. 🤫

prozach wrote:

You can register a bike in a state you don't live in?

Some states let you register there without being a resident. 

 

I think a California resident with South Dakota registered vehicle is technically illegal, but I've never heard of anybody having a problem. 

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5/10/2024 8:46pm
ktmwoods wrote:
Here is a positive solution: As a Cali resident, I took all of my bikes, got a quick Tusk lighting kit with turn signals, headlight/tail light...

Here is a positive solution: As a Cali resident, I took all of my bikes, got a quick Tusk lighting kit with turn signals, headlight/tail light & horn, sent like $50 to the good people of South Dakota, made all of them street legal plated bikes and now tell the ranger man to f off. Have done 6 bikes this way for less than registering 1 bike in CA. Even did a KLX 110 w a big bore kit like this. Getting groceries tonight on my XCF 450 and waved at 5-0 as I cruised home with a sixer. 🤫

prozach wrote:

You can register a bike in a state you don't live in?

RichieW13 wrote:
Some states let you register there without being a resident.    I think a California resident with South Dakota registered vehicle is technically illegal, but I've...

Some states let you register there without being a resident. 

 

I think a California resident with South Dakota registered vehicle is technically illegal, but I've never heard of anybody having a problem. 

Yes you can register a bike in another state.  Technically it is not illegal to live in one state and register a vehicle in another (at least in California).  However, if said vehicle is in California for greater than 10 days, you technically are suppose to apply for California registration.  I have a few rancher friends that have properties in both California and in Oregon, they all register their vehicles in Oregon, even though they have them here a large portion of the year.  A few years ago California started a snitch line to rat your neighbors out that do such things.

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183Matt wrote:
Yes you can register a bike in another state.  Technically it is not illegal to live in one state and register a vehicle in another (at...

Yes you can register a bike in another state.  Technically it is not illegal to live in one state and register a vehicle in another (at least in California).  However, if said vehicle is in California for greater than 10 days, you technically are suppose to apply for California registration.  I have a few rancher friends that have properties in both California and in Oregon, they all register their vehicles in Oregon, even though they have them here a large portion of the year.  A few years ago California started a snitch line to rat your neighbors out that do such things.

There may be a loop hole to this. I was researching road registering heavy equipment for work a few weeks ago, and found that there was some form that CA wants you to complete/file if you commute in and out of the state on a frequent basis. This likely applies to neighboring states, but you could do file it and have something in case someone throws a fit about something being registered in another state.

i have only been in CA for a couple of years, but the main thing that I have noticed is that the state and state agencies are so big, and that they do not communicate together, let alone in their own agency. I got a red sticker for a 22 CRF450R a couple months ago, mostly just to see if it could be done. It may get nixed in ‘25, but I have heard about a lot of people getting red stickers on ‘22 and forward bikes. Nobody at the DMV even knows of this new legislation.

You can also road register a dirtbike easier than you think, as long as you actually try and aren’t some lazy complainer like a lot of the people sound on here. Register it in another state first, and don’t use South Dakota, as that will just highlight to the DMV or CHP what you are trying to do. Then it will have a road title. Give it a year or so, then register it in CA. They will make you take it to CHP for a VIN verification because it won’t have a SMOG certification sticker on it. The odd loop hole is that it will need to have an odometer on it with OVER 7,500 miles on it. If I have to describe how to do this for you guys, and you can’t figure out how to easily do this, then you should go back to your complaining about every stupid thing. I did this a couple years ago on an ‘05 CRF450X, and I just renewed the plate today.

Just put in some damn effort, and you’d be surprised what you can actually get done.

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dcg141 wrote:

How valuable will used bikes that grandfather into green stickers become? 21's especially. 

I would assume it would affect them the same way that 2002 and older models in CA always had a big price kicker on them because they could be ridden year round. (Prior to green/red sticker system) Growing up we kept all of our pre-2002 models for a very long time to take advantage of the grandfathered in green sticker two strokes.

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5/14/2024 5:19pm
dcg141 wrote:

How valuable will used bikes that grandfather into green stickers become? 21's especially. 

I would assume it would affect them the same way that 2002 and older models in CA always had a big price kicker on them because...

I would assume it would affect them the same way that 2002 and older models in CA always had a big price kicker on them because they could be ridden year round. (Prior to green/red sticker system) Growing up we kept all of our pre-2002 models for a very long time to take advantage of the grandfathered in green sticker two strokes.

I’ve still got a 2006 KTM 450xc that KTM sold as a green sticker bike. I bought it new over a CRF or a YZF because of the sticker..

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Don’t mean to bring up an old thread but does anyone know if a 21 bike with an az title will still be grandfathered in to ca or does the bike currently need to be registered in ca?

6/7/2024 7:30am
jordon372 wrote:
Don’t mean to bring up an old thread but does anyone know if a 21 bike with an az title will still be grandfathered in to...

Don’t mean to bring up an old thread but does anyone know if a 21 bike with an az title will still be grandfathered in to ca or does the bike currently need to be registered in ca?

Being a 21 it should be completely fine. Worst case, don't register it here and just buy the out of state sticker.

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jordon372 wrote:
Don’t mean to bring up an old thread but does anyone know if a 21 bike with an az title will still be grandfathered in to...

Don’t mean to bring up an old thread but does anyone know if a 21 bike with an az title will still be grandfathered in to ca or does the bike currently need to be registered in ca?

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Being a 21 it should be completely fine. Worst case, don't register it here and just buy the out of state sticker.

Ok, so if Imma WA resident with 21. Or older (formerly red sticker classified) bike, I assume can get an out of state OHV tag; and if I have a 22 or newer closed course comp bike, there’s no way to “legally” take it to Ocatillo or Glamis I assume. 🤔

 

And if I had to move to CA (other than asking some one to just shoot me to put me out of my misery before I leave a state with gun laws that make a little bit of sense), I #1 cant OHV register my 22 or newer comp. Bikes, and #2 Can register my 21 and older closed course bikes, and #3 can no longer keep my AR 15’s, nor (and this is the stupidest thing Ive ever heard of) can I keep grandpas WW2 45 cal 1911 service pistol… Your state sucks!!! 🤡

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jordon372 wrote:
Don’t mean to bring up an old thread but does anyone know if a 21 bike with an az title will still be grandfathered in to...

Don’t mean to bring up an old thread but does anyone know if a 21 bike with an az title will still be grandfathered in to ca or does the bike currently need to be registered in ca?

mattyhamz2 wrote:

Being a 21 it should be completely fine. Worst case, don't register it here and just buy the out of state sticker.

Moto728 wrote:
Ok, so if Imma WA resident with 21. Or older (formerly red sticker classified) bike, I assume can get an out of state OHV tag; and...

Ok, so if Imma WA resident with 21. Or older (formerly red sticker classified) bike, I assume can get an out of state OHV tag; and if I have a 22 or newer closed course comp bike, there’s no way to “legally” take it to Ocatillo or Glamis I assume. 🤔

 

And if I had to move to CA (other than asking some one to just shoot me to put me out of my misery before I leave a state with gun laws that make a little bit of sense), I #1 cant OHV register my 22 or newer comp. Bikes, and #2 Can register my 21 and older closed course bikes, and #3 can no longer keep my AR 15’s, nor (and this is the stupidest thing Ive ever heard of) can I keep grandpas WW2 45 cal 1911 service pistol… Your state sucks!!! 🤡

Are you planning to move to California?

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10/19/2024 9:14pm
mattyhamz2 wrote:

Being a 21 it should be completely fine. Worst case, don't register it here and just buy the out of state sticker.

Moto728 wrote:
Ok, so if Imma WA resident with 21. Or older (formerly red sticker classified) bike, I assume can get an out of state OHV tag; and...

Ok, so if Imma WA resident with 21. Or older (formerly red sticker classified) bike, I assume can get an out of state OHV tag; and if I have a 22 or newer closed course comp bike, there’s no way to “legally” take it to Ocatillo or Glamis I assume. 🤔

 

And if I had to move to CA (other than asking some one to just shoot me to put me out of my misery before I leave a state with gun laws that make a little bit of sense), I #1 cant OHV register my 22 or newer comp. Bikes, and #2 Can register my 21 and older closed course bikes, and #3 can no longer keep my AR 15’s, nor (and this is the stupidest thing Ive ever heard of) can I keep grandpas WW2 45 cal 1911 service pistol… Your state sucks!!! 🤡

zehn wrote:

Are you planning to move to California?

Fortunately no… 😅

 

However, I have family that all live down by Fox raceway and Elsionore I visit some years. Every year they have told me me something new I either cannot bring with me or cannot use when I get there. It’s been steady for the last 2 decades; CA State legislators should be renamed, “The Liberty Crushers…👹” lol.

 

Oh, and don’t forget to leave the barret 50 cal out of the packing list as well. 🤣

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