#3: MXGP of Sardegna - April 6-7

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Motofinne wrote:
We're 3 rounds in with 3 completely different tracks. Argentina is unique to the GP schedule, super fast and sketchy. Prado won. Madrid. Pretty typical hard...

We're 3 rounds in with 3 completely different tracks.

Argentina is unique to the GP schedule, super fast and sketchy. Prado won.

Madrid. Pretty typical hard packed track with a lot of ruts. Prado won.

Sardegna. One of the softer sand tracks on the schedule. Prado won.

I can't see him losing this title, he's the complete package now. The only way he gets beaten is if he gets hurt.

 

I'm curious if the long season including SX will have an impact for Prado. I assume he was close to very good form at least 6-8 weeks earlier then in a normal GP season.

 

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dan22 wrote:
ho hum - i know what you mean lol. Its as if Tim is just a bystander in all this. Im assuming Tim will be far...

ho hum - i know what you mean lol. Its as if Tim is just a bystander in all this. Im assuming Tim will be far better than Prado next round on hard pack? thoughts anyone?

agn5008 wrote:
I’m certainly not saying Tim won’t win on a hard packed track but it’s impossible to be far better than Prado right now. He’s riding extremely...

I’m certainly not saying Tim won’t win on a hard packed track but it’s impossible to be far better than Prado right now. He’s riding extremely well and his starts are on point. He’s going to be really hard to beat at any given round. 

rym wrote:
To me Prado is favorite regardless of the track with the way he is riding. But Arco for sure is a better track for Tim then...

To me Prado is favorite regardless of the track with the way he is riding. But Arco for sure is a better track for Tim then Sardegna was

Yeah i should've specified. Prado will not win every round, but i just can't see how anyone is going to beat him in the championship this year.

Gajser and Herlings will win races this season, probably Febvre too.

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JT's a natural in the booth. 

Gotta give him props for throwing in a ‘kilometre’ during one of the races. It didn’t quite sound natural but an American using the global metric system to commentate a race where the bike sizes are measured in cubic centimetres is refreshing.  

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Motofinne wrote:
We're 3 rounds in with 3 completely different tracks. Argentina is unique to the GP schedule, super fast and sketchy. Prado won. Madrid. Pretty typical hard...

We're 3 rounds in with 3 completely different tracks.

Argentina is unique to the GP schedule, super fast and sketchy. Prado won.

Madrid. Pretty typical hard packed track with a lot of ruts. Prado won.

Sardegna. One of the softer sand tracks on the schedule. Prado won.

I can't see him losing this title, he's the complete package now. The only way he gets beaten is if he gets hurt.

Fully agree. It's been a while since we've seen someone look so effortless go so fast. It looks like he's not even trying.

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prozach wrote:
If he can wrap it up early,  smx races are maybe in play!   I'd assume it would be on a KTM though.  He might have to...

If he can wrap it up early,  smx races are maybe in play!   I'd assume it would be on a KTM though.  He might have to race one national to get enough points though? 

If he's leaving KTM Group then there's no way they'll fund anything for him outside of MXGP races.

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Motofinne wrote:
We're 3 rounds in with 3 completely different tracks. Argentina is unique to the GP schedule, super fast and sketchy. Prado won. Madrid. Pretty typical hard...

We're 3 rounds in with 3 completely different tracks.

Argentina is unique to the GP schedule, super fast and sketchy. Prado won.

Madrid. Pretty typical hard packed track with a lot of ruts. Prado won.

Sardegna. One of the softer sand tracks on the schedule. Prado won.

I can't see him losing this title, he's the complete package now. The only way he gets beaten is if he gets hurt.

rym wrote:
  I'm curious if the long season including SX will have an impact for Prado. I assume he was close to very good form at least...

 

I'm curious if the long season including SX will have an impact for Prado. I assume he was close to very good form at least 6-8 weeks earlier then in a normal GP season.

 

It will be a positive impact during this short sprint of increased activity.

It's similar to Herlings 17-18 seasons when he was pretty much unbeatable due to training and racing his ass off. He also stated it was non-sustainable over time.

So if anything I think Prado will only get stronger (possible injury excluded) 2024-2025, but may see a downside of being so on it, maybe at end of 2025 or midd 2026?

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Tim ang Herlings will try to find own tactics later,they just will keep pressure on Prado and wait for mistake from him,I know how it sounds,like Prado never makes mistakes, but others just tries keep pressure on. Hard weekend for Prado also is coming. In my opinion previous year Prado was risking less then this year. Prado is riding almost all time in limit. Just knows very well how stay consistent laptimes and maintain gap

Herlings not done yet,he still easily top5 rider,and can get podiums. Just I can understand he wants to stay calm and on 2 wheels more,then winning by any price.

Tim ir riding very good,he is next to win GP, same as Herlings,he is riding safely.  Season is long.

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4/8/2024 3:53am

I wouldn't throw the towel on Herlings just yet. He didn't race for 14 months, then came back and race a couple of race only to break something in his neck, then came back and broke his collarbone because of a false neutral, then broke his collarbone again at a beach race not that long before the season started. It would be unrealistic to expect 2018 Herlings after only three races. I think the championship is pretty much out of reach for him already this year unless something happens to Prado, but if he can race the whole season without getting hurt, then I should be game on for next year.

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Both Gajser and Herlings were closer to Prado than he would have wanted.

As we saw, one mistake in the sand can be 2-3 seconds, and both Gajser and Herlings were keeping him honest till they werent. 

The old Herlings would have crashed trying to win at all costs, the new Herlings took the points at a lower risk, and he looked good doing it. 

The sprint race is a joke, it needs to go, as we saw with Febvre, whole weekend was done before it started with a DNF  

Still 54 races to go 

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philG wrote:
Both Gajser and Herlings were closer to Prado than he would have wanted. As we saw, one mistake in the sand can be 2-3 seconds, and...

Both Gajser and Herlings were closer to Prado than he would have wanted.

As we saw, one mistake in the sand can be 2-3 seconds, and both Gajser and Herlings were keeping him honest till they werent. 

The old Herlings would have crashed trying to win at all costs, the new Herlings took the points at a lower risk, and he looked good doing it. 

The sprint race is a joke, it needs to go, as we saw with Febvre, whole weekend was done before it started with a DNF  

Still 54 races to go 

Well, the new Herlings crashed twice this weekend. One hard in practise, one trying to catch Prado.

So you could say, the new Herlings is kind of the same as the old one. Just slightly slower 😄😁

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philG wrote:
Both Gajser and Herlings were closer to Prado than he would have wanted. As we saw, one mistake in the sand can be 2-3 seconds, and...

Both Gajser and Herlings were closer to Prado than he would have wanted.

As we saw, one mistake in the sand can be 2-3 seconds, and both Gajser and Herlings were keeping him honest till they werent. 

The old Herlings would have crashed trying to win at all costs, the new Herlings took the points at a lower risk, and he looked good doing it. 

The sprint race is a joke, it needs to go, as we saw with Febvre, whole weekend was done before it started with a DNF  

Still 54 races to go 

aees wrote:
Well, the new Herlings crashed twice this weekend. One hard in practise, one trying to catch Prado. So you could say, the new Herlings is kind...

Well, the new Herlings crashed twice this weekend. One hard in practise, one trying to catch Prado.

So you could say, the new Herlings is kind of the same as the old one. Just slightly slower 😄😁

He crashed twice and didn’t break anything…I’d say that’s a step in the right direction haha

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4/8/2024 6:55am

PRADO making his #1 look really good this year. Hope he keeps it going. Its a long season.

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Prado is winning but I wouldn’t say he’s dominating the races outside of some laps in Spain. It’s already looking like a two horse race though which you would never know the way the media/broadcast fawns over Prado deservingly so right now and Herlings when he’s on screen. Gajser has shown the ability to slice thru the pack with relative ease right now but he needs to start in front of Prado. As it stands now the real test will be the very rare bad start from Prado. In the past he’s given up points quickly by not starting in front. As of now obviously this is Prados to lose though. 
 

Gajsers lack of respect from everyone is on full display this year. Reminds me so much of when AC, Herlings and Prado were all on KTM and it’s all the media could talk about even though there was a multi time MX champ under the Honda awning. They love the narrative of Prado coming into his own and Herlings coming back, yet as usual Gajser the guy who has either led the 450 championship or won it in every year he’s started healthy feels like the odd man out. 

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4/8/2024 7:46am

Saying anyone is out of the championship this early in the insanely long GP season is crazy

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