New 2023 YZ450F

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MKMX wrote:
I figure this would be the best thread to ask… I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like...

I figure this would be the best thread to ask…

I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like to know the “must-do’s” right out of the box! So please let me know anything in addition to the below…

I’m already planning on doing the following work/changing the following parts for personal preference/feel;

Renthal twinwalls - 996 bend

Core moto steel braided lines

DID chain / Renthal sprockets

Works connection clutch perch

Re-grease the steering stem and linkage/swingarm

Re-spring the suspension

Suspension revalve

Engine mounts

Triple clamps

Vortex

22 swingarm

Twinair airbox

At least two sets of piston/cam chain/cranks...

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4/4/2024 1:45am
MKMX wrote:
I figure this would be the best thread to ask… I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like...

I figure this would be the best thread to ask…

I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like to know the “must-do’s” right out of the box! So please let me know anything in addition to the below…

I’m already planning on doing the following work/changing the following parts for personal preference/feel;

Renthal twinwalls - 996 bend

Core moto steel braided lines

DID chain / Renthal sprockets

Works connection clutch perch

Re-grease the steering stem and linkage/swingarm

Re-spring the suspension

greg570 wrote:

Suspension revalve

Engine mounts

Triple clamps

Vortex

22 swingarm

Twinair airbox

At least two sets of piston/cam chain/cranks...

22 swingarm is the same like the 23?

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WC perch, honda lever

Springs

Ride it. 

I wouldn't do twinwalls or lines before you ride it. I liked the brakes on both ends.

Stock chain and sprocket is too good to just take off right away for looks. 

Any of the other stuff is cool but not necessary to "make" the bike. 

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MKMX wrote:
I figure this would be the best thread to ask… I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like...

I figure this would be the best thread to ask…

I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like to know the “must-do’s” right out of the box! So please let me know anything in addition to the below…

I’m already planning on doing the following work/changing the following parts for personal preference/feel;

Renthal twinwalls - 996 bend

Core moto steel braided lines

DID chain / Renthal sprockets

Works connection clutch perch

Re-grease the steering stem and linkage/swingarm

Re-spring the suspension

greg570 wrote:

Suspension revalve

Engine mounts

Triple clamps

Vortex

22 swingarm

Twinair airbox

At least two sets of piston/cam chain/cranks...

At least two sets of Piston/Cam chain/Cranks? It’s not a 125 that wears stuff out fast so why would he need to have all that?

A skid plate is a good thing to add.

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4/4/2024 8:12am Edited Date/Time 4/4/2024 8:13am
MKMX wrote:
I figure this would be the best thread to ask… I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like...

I figure this would be the best thread to ask…

I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like to know the “must-do’s” right out of the box! So please let me know anything in addition to the below…

I’m already planning on doing the following work/changing the following parts for personal preference/feel;

Renthal twinwalls - 996 bend

Core moto steel braided lines

DID chain / Renthal sprockets

Works connection clutch perch

Re-grease the steering stem and linkage/swingarm

Re-spring the suspension

The only must do you should consider is settings sag, tire pressure, and put the levers where you want them. Ride the bike in stock trim and put a few hours on it (in different conditions if possible) before you do anything to the bike. Fancy new bits look really cool and it's fun to talk about at the track, but most folks would be far better off just riding the bike and learning how to best leverage the vast amount of time and money Yamaha has put into developing the bike. It's an incredible machine that works very well in stock form.

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MKMX wrote:
I figure this would be the best thread to ask… I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like...

I figure this would be the best thread to ask…

I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like to know the “must-do’s” right out of the box! So please let me know anything in addition to the below…

I’m already planning on doing the following work/changing the following parts for personal preference/feel;

Renthal twinwalls - 996 bend

Core moto steel braided lines

DID chain / Renthal sprockets

Works connection clutch perch

Re-grease the steering stem and linkage/swingarm

Re-spring the suspension

In my opinion, the bike is great in stock form, it’s very impressive! Handlebars are preference, I go with a non cross bar for less rigidity...

In my opinion, the bike is great in stock form, it’s very impressive!


Handlebars are preference, I go with a non cross bar for less rigidity.

Id suggest riding the stock brakes before you do the braided line. For me, the stock front brake bites too hard. I’m coming off years of Using Brembo so I did the brembo master mod with old Yamaha caliper.

I like the works connection low peg mounts.

Waterproof the map switch/kill switch with silicone.

Twin air filter cage is nice

upload a bunch of maps to test

 

@CarlinoJoeVideo did the brembo mount with enough bar clearance on the banjo?  I tried the Keefer p/n and even when I cranked the banjo down it made contact with the bar very slightly. I was worried that it would bend/loosen if I crashed and forced the master down. 

Maybe I run my master too far in and it lined up perfectly with the oem bar 🤷🏻‍♂️

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4/4/2024 8:38am
MKMX wrote:
I figure this would be the best thread to ask… I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like...

I figure this would be the best thread to ask…

I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like to know the “must-do’s” right out of the box! So please let me know anything in addition to the below…

I’m already planning on doing the following work/changing the following parts for personal preference/feel;

Renthal twinwalls - 996 bend

Core moto steel braided lines

DID chain / Renthal sprockets

Works connection clutch perch

Re-grease the steering stem and linkage/swingarm

Re-spring the suspension

In my opinion, the bike is great in stock form, it’s very impressive! Handlebars are preference, I go with a non cross bar for less rigidity...

In my opinion, the bike is great in stock form, it’s very impressive!


Handlebars are preference, I go with a non cross bar for less rigidity.

Id suggest riding the stock brakes before you do the braided line. For me, the stock front brake bites too hard. I’m coming off years of Using Brembo so I did the brembo master mod with old Yamaha caliper.

I like the works connection low peg mounts.

Waterproof the map switch/kill switch with silicone.

Twin air filter cage is nice

upload a bunch of maps to test

 

joe846 wrote:
@CarlinoJoeVideo did the brembo mount with enough bar clearance on the banjo?  I tried the Keefer p/n and even when I cranked the banjo down it...

@CarlinoJoeVideo did the brembo mount with enough bar clearance on the banjo?  I tried the Keefer p/n and even when I cranked the banjo down it made contact with the bar very slightly. I was worried that it would bend/loosen if I crashed and forced the master down. 

Maybe I run my master too far in and it lined up perfectly with the oem bar 🤷🏻‍♂️

Mine was close, but fit. I’m on pro taper bars. You can try a slimmer banjo?

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In my opinion, the bike is great in stock form, it’s very impressive! Handlebars are preference, I go with a non cross bar for less rigidity...

In my opinion, the bike is great in stock form, it’s very impressive!


Handlebars are preference, I go with a non cross bar for less rigidity.

Id suggest riding the stock brakes before you do the braided line. For me, the stock front brake bites too hard. I’m coming off years of Using Brembo so I did the brembo master mod with old Yamaha caliper.

I like the works connection low peg mounts.

Waterproof the map switch/kill switch with silicone.

Twin air filter cage is nice

upload a bunch of maps to test

 

joe846 wrote:
@CarlinoJoeVideo did the brembo mount with enough bar clearance on the banjo?  I tried the Keefer p/n and even when I cranked the banjo down it...

@CarlinoJoeVideo did the brembo mount with enough bar clearance on the banjo?  I tried the Keefer p/n and even when I cranked the banjo down it made contact with the bar very slightly. I was worried that it would bend/loosen if I crashed and forced the master down. 

Maybe I run my master too far in and it lined up perfectly with the oem bar 🤷🏻‍♂️

Mine was close, but fit. I’m on pro taper bars. You can try a slimmer banjo?

Good to know. I’m using the stock bars, and the problem was the banjo angle and the fact that the banjo didn’t go in as far as on newer KTMs.  Sounds like maybe you have to crank the banjo down a lot more than typical?  Or like you said, maybe I should have tried a few different banjos. 
 

Do the brakes feel dramatically different after you made the changes?

Thanks!

4/4/2024 9:49am
joe846 wrote:
@CarlinoJoeVideo did the brembo mount with enough bar clearance on the banjo?  I tried the Keefer p/n and even when I cranked the banjo down it...

@CarlinoJoeVideo did the brembo mount with enough bar clearance on the banjo?  I tried the Keefer p/n and even when I cranked the banjo down it made contact with the bar very slightly. I was worried that it would bend/loosen if I crashed and forced the master down. 

Maybe I run my master too far in and it lined up perfectly with the oem bar 🤷🏻‍♂️

Mine was close, but fit. I’m on pro taper bars. You can try a slimmer banjo?

joe846 wrote:
Good to know. I’m using the stock bars, and the problem was the banjo angle and the fact that the banjo didn’t go in as far...

Good to know. I’m using the stock bars, and the problem was the banjo angle and the fact that the banjo didn’t go in as far as on newer KTMs.  Sounds like maybe you have to crank the banjo down a lot more than typical?  Or like you said, maybe I should have tried a few different banjos. 
 

Do the brakes feel dramatically different after you made the changes?

Thanks!

Listen to Keefer's latest podcast on the 24 YZ450. He and his mechanic talk about the banjo and having to crank it down more than you'd think.

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Mine was close, but fit. I’m on pro taper bars. You can try a slimmer banjo?

joe846 wrote:
Good to know. I’m using the stock bars, and the problem was the banjo angle and the fact that the banjo didn’t go in as far...

Good to know. I’m using the stock bars, and the problem was the banjo angle and the fact that the banjo didn’t go in as far as on newer KTMs.  Sounds like maybe you have to crank the banjo down a lot more than typical?  Or like you said, maybe I should have tried a few different banjos. 
 

Do the brakes feel dramatically different after you made the changes?

Thanks!

mattyhamz2 wrote:
Listen to Keefer's latest podcast on the 24 YZ450. He and his mechanic talk about the banjo and having to crank it down more than you'd...

Listen to Keefer's latest podcast on the 24 YZ450. He and his mechanic talk about the banjo and having to crank it down more than you'd think.

Totally and good call. That’s what I was referencing.
 

Mine had like 3 mm of space where the washers go once the bolt bottomed, though. A lot of cranking!
 

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4/4/2024 11:21am
joe846 wrote:
Good to know. I’m using the stock bars, and the problem was the banjo angle and the fact that the banjo didn’t go in as far...

Good to know. I’m using the stock bars, and the problem was the banjo angle and the fact that the banjo didn’t go in as far as on newer KTMs.  Sounds like maybe you have to crank the banjo down a lot more than typical?  Or like you said, maybe I should have tried a few different banjos. 
 

Do the brakes feel dramatically different after you made the changes?

Thanks!

mattyhamz2 wrote:
Listen to Keefer's latest podcast on the 24 YZ450. He and his mechanic talk about the banjo and having to crank it down more than you'd...

Listen to Keefer's latest podcast on the 24 YZ450. He and his mechanic talk about the banjo and having to crank it down more than you'd think.

joe846 wrote:
Totally and good call. That’s what I was referencing.   Mine had like 3 mm of space where the washers go once the bolt bottomed, though...

Totally and good call. That’s what I was referencing.
 

Mine had like 3 mm of space where the washers go once the bolt bottomed, though. A lot of cranking!
 

Could you add an extra sealing washer to take up some of the space? Over tightening sounds like a recipe for disaster!

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mattyhamz2 wrote:
Listen to Keefer's latest podcast on the 24 YZ450. He and his mechanic talk about the banjo and having to crank it down more than you'd...

Listen to Keefer's latest podcast on the 24 YZ450. He and his mechanic talk about the banjo and having to crank it down more than you'd think.

joe846 wrote:
Totally and good call. That’s what I was referencing.   Mine had like 3 mm of space where the washers go once the bolt bottomed, though...

Totally and good call. That’s what I was referencing.
 

Mine had like 3 mm of space where the washers go once the bolt bottomed, though. A lot of cranking!
 

crmx105 wrote:

Could you add an extra sealing washer to take up some of the space? Over tightening sounds like a recipe for disaster!

If I remember correctly, I had to add three washers to get the correct torque, but then the banjo made contact with the bars.
 

 

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mattyhamz2 wrote:
Listen to Keefer's latest podcast on the 24 YZ450. He and his mechanic talk about the banjo and having to crank it down more than you'd...

Listen to Keefer's latest podcast on the 24 YZ450. He and his mechanic talk about the banjo and having to crank it down more than you'd think.

joe846 wrote:
Totally and good call. That’s what I was referencing.   Mine had like 3 mm of space where the washers go once the bolt bottomed, though...

Totally and good call. That’s what I was referencing.
 

Mine had like 3 mm of space where the washers go once the bolt bottomed, though. A lot of cranking!
 

crmx105 wrote:

Could you add an extra sealing washer to take up some of the space? Over tightening sounds like a recipe for disaster!

I think on the caliper side I needed extra copper crush washer.  
 

As far as feel, dramatic change, no. But closer to a KTM/Brembo, yes.

I’m not a fan of the Japanese bikes front brake feel. Honda, Kawi and Yamaha all feel like too much bore and on/off for me. The Austrian bikes(brembo) I can drag more smoothly. 

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Thanks for all the input! Usually with new bikes I grease everything, set sag, check clickers, throw some other creature comforts on and then put 4-ish hours on it before deciding on anything else to change! Might try the other way and just grease everything , set sag and clickers and let-er-rip for a few hours completely stock!

Thanks for the heads up on the brake lines and twin-walls, I won’t order anything until I’ve ridden it and decide if they’re worth it or not! Luckily the 827 Fatbar is the same bend as the 996 Twinwall so I can go to a more forgiving bar in my favourite bend if I don’t like stock.

I’ll add a skid plate to my list and make sure I water-proof the kill/map switch!

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NBD

 

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NBD  

NBD

 

Rider 5280 wrote:

Blue spoke skins on the way. Got the super light ones but I'm fat so it doesn't matter. Lol.. bought a big bore 570 kit at paws motor shop in the hills of PA on my way back through..

 

(WC levers on already lol)

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Top mods

 

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Top mods  

Top mods

 

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Navicular?

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MKMX wrote:
I figure this would be the best thread to ask… I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like...

I figure this would be the best thread to ask…

I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like to know the “must-do’s” right out of the box! So please let me know anything in addition to the below…

I’m already planning on doing the following work/changing the following parts for personal preference/feel;

Renthal twinwalls - 996 bend

Core moto steel braided lines

DID chain / Renthal sprockets

Works connection clutch perch

Re-grease the steering stem and linkage/swingarm

Re-spring the suspension

IF you ride more than once a week, taller seat foam is a must. The stock seat simply doesn’t have enough material between the plastic seat frame and your behind. The results can be most uncomfortableWoohoo

Besides that, change your oil/air filter lots and RIDE the damn thing!! Yamaha has done a great job

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MKMX wrote:
I figure this would be the best thread to ask… I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like...

I figure this would be the best thread to ask…

I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like to know the “must-do’s” right out of the box! So please let me know anything in addition to the below…

I’m already planning on doing the following work/changing the following parts for personal preference/feel;

Renthal twinwalls - 996 bend

Core moto steel braided lines

DID chain / Renthal sprockets

Works connection clutch perch

Re-grease the steering stem and linkage/swingarm

Re-spring the suspension

skid plate, dont think you need to change the sprockets unless youre changing the gearing. some type of grip tape or the acerbis frame grip things, the geometry is awesome on the bike but it is slippery especially when new.   If you arent doing graphics, then the clear tape stuff works wonders too.

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If I go to 14/52 gearing will the 114 link chain still fit? Thanks

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Crash82 wrote:

If I go to 14/52 gearing will the 114 link chain still fit? Thanks

You'll definitely need to add links to catch that extra few teeth for sure. I haven't tried 14/52, but I did run 13/52 for a bit and I needed extra links.

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MKMX wrote:
I figure this would be the best thread to ask… I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like...

I figure this would be the best thread to ask…

I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like to know the “must-do’s” right out of the box! So please let me know anything in addition to the below…

I’m already planning on doing the following work/changing the following parts for personal preference/feel;

Renthal twinwalls - 996 bend

Core moto steel braided lines

DID chain / Renthal sprockets

Works connection clutch perch

Re-grease the steering stem and linkage/swingarm

Re-spring the suspension

swaldrop wrote:
The only must do you should consider is settings sag, tire pressure, and put the levers where you want them. Ride the bike in stock trim...

The only must do you should consider is settings sag, tire pressure, and put the levers where you want them. Ride the bike in stock trim and put a few hours on it (in different conditions if possible) before you do anything to the bike. Fancy new bits look really cool and it's fun to talk about at the track, but most folks would be far better off just riding the bike and learning how to best leverage the vast amount of time and money Yamaha has put into developing the bike. It's an incredible machine that works very well in stock form.

I love my 23. Put in some time to get used to the bike, then get the suspension sprung correctly for you (I had Shock Therapy do mine). I use a manual timing chain tensioner, which makes the engine feel a little more free reving, like a smoker. I have both keefer maps in mine as well. For me the seat is fine, except for the durability. I eventually went with a guts racing cover.

Enjoy the ride!

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4/23/2024 12:13pm
Crash82 wrote:

If I go to 14/52 gearing will the 114 link chain still fit? Thanks

swaldrop wrote:
You'll definitely need to add links to catch that extra few teeth for sure. I haven't tried 14/52, but I did run 13/52 for a bit...

You'll definitely need to add links to catch that extra few teeth for sure. I haven't tried 14/52, but I did run 13/52 for a bit and I needed extra links.

Thanks, the 120 link chain was cheaper than the 114 for some reason so that's cool. I will let y'all know what it feels like. 

 

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4/24/2024 10:03pm
MKMX wrote:
I figure this would be the best thread to ask… I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like...

I figure this would be the best thread to ask…

I’m planning on jumping aboard a ‘24/‘25 YZ450f at the start of 2025 and would like to know the “must-do’s” right out of the box! So please let me know anything in addition to the below…

I’m already planning on doing the following work/changing the following parts for personal preference/feel;

Renthal twinwalls - 996 bend

Core moto steel braided lines

DID chain / Renthal sprockets

Works connection clutch perch

Re-grease the steering stem and linkage/swingarm

Re-spring the suspension

IF you ride more than once a week, taller seat foam is a must. The stock seat simply doesn’t have enough material between the plastic seat...

IF you ride more than once a week, taller seat foam is a must. The stock seat simply doesn’t have enough material between the plastic seat frame and your behind. The results can be most uncomfortableWoohoo

Besides that, change your oil/air filter lots and RIDE the damn thing!! Yamaha has done a great job

Just picked up a 24 last month.  Stock seat really does feel like sitting on a 2x4.  I mountain bike somewhat regularly so my taint is used to it, but I'm coming from a 2020 450 and that seat feels like a couch relatively speaking.  

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i just threw on the Seat Concepts complete tall seat.  I have one ride with it and it helped considerably with more foam. 

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I have a Honda master cylinder and wanted a braided line that works correctly with the longer stiffener. I had to make a custom Core line but it came out perfectly. I liked the oem caliper feel over the billet nissin, but I will test again with the steel line. My billet caliper has a slight drag unlike the oem also. They also have the rear brake and clutch line available pre built. Not sure the clutch line makes a difference but I switched it anyways and it comes with a little rubber cover.

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Hey guys. So just picked up a 23 yz450f from a friend with 17 hours on it. Rode it about 3 hours now and just had it shipped down to Florida from New Hampshire. Was racing at Tampa this past weekend for the first ride after shipping and mid moto the bike just cut out like it was out of gas or something. Checked the gas, it had a full tank and then tried starting it and nothing. Walked it to the track exit and tried to start it again and it fired right up a minute or so later. Rode it back to van and put it in neutral while it was running and it just stalled out. Let it sit for a couple hours and it ran fine again after around the parking lot and idling on the stand. The coolant level was a little low (just at the top of the fins). But I highly doubt that’s what caused it to do that, unless there’s some kind of overheating sensor? But my thought is on the shipping down here it was exposed and it got some rain on it. Possibly getting water in the connections and causing some electrical issues. Checked the app as well and no code. My knee jerk reaction is to di electric grease all the connectors and electrical tape them and ride some trails with no jumps to see if it persists. Would love to know if someone is having similar issues or some other thoughts. Thanks.

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