That Red cross flag was the dumbest Bullshit I've ever seen, Pro rider on a 450 racing for a AMA Supercross title coming around what is essentially a blind right corner with a big jump that you need to be on the throttle immediately to clear and that's where they decide to have the flag at, there's absolutely no time to slow down in the fraction of a second if you managed to see it. The Red Cross flag should have been right down at the corner and the AMA should have known that. I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but there was some shaddy shit that went down last night in St Louis, between Vince Freise being the cause of that Red Cross Flag at the finish line jump and then Barcia and Friese coming in like a couple hired Assassins pointed at Jett Lawrence. It's common knowledge that Vince Friese is willing to pay a bounty to take riders out, so it's certainly possible he's willing to take a bounty under the table to cause carnage.
Checkered Flag/Red Cross Flag nonsense. Jett's on the gas, how's he going to have time to slow down if he manages to see it.
They apparently had two laps to get someone to the bottom of the jump to put another Red Cross flag out there. The penalty on Jett was warranted and Jett should have been paying attention better but they had plenty of time to get someone in a better position with another Red Cross flag.
I do find it comical how often frieses name is involved with absolute mayhem even when he doesn’t do anything wrong per se.
Yeah, 100% correct. And, why is the flagman waving the white, then checkered flag like the starter at LeMans? (Obviously, the primary reason is to draw attention to the moving flag.) Shouldn't the red cross flag be the focal point?
I'm not quite sure of that, the fast guys coming into that right corner before the jump are on the gas immediately to clear it. If the AMA wanted to have a Red Cross flag there, it should have been in the corner warning riders coming into it or on the outside of the turn at the bottom of the jump where they could have seen it better. It was in the worst place possible to warn riders of a down rider.
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eli managed to see it and roll the jump … sorry jett didn’t see it, but, even in the picture you have the the red cross flag is way further out and pretty obvious to see, shit he is even pointed directly at it exiting the corner.
Stationary object versus a moving / waving object in front of it.
Which one would you see?
Reverse it with holding the Red Cross flag in front of the waving checkered flag behind it and the riders would have seen it first.
The places where red flags are waved has always been an issue. Get the flagger on the track not off the side opposite of where riders focus is.
5 out of 21 - 25% of the riders could not see it. BTW I thought it was 10 riders that jumped?
All 5 riders should file appeal this decision.
yea they gotta do betta with the placement of these flags , or at least wave it on the face on the side , how many ppl got penalized last night 🤔 Jett , chase , coop , ando & AP7? I neva seen tht many factory riders get penalized like tht in 1 race
I agree. And we are fortunate someone didn't get landed on otherwise it can be quite the race director/promoter responsibility.
looks to me like a post race red cross flag after checkered Flag😝
Interviews last night and riders said they complain when it was waving because they didn't see it and now complaining because it was stationary. Have to look.
Imagine El Hombre’s expression when he found out that got docked for jumping on that flag TWICE.
And yet the vast majority of riders saw the flag and didn't jump
Also, cut the crap on this conspiracy theory nonsense. Nothing was done to try to sabotage Jett, that is some victim mentality with no basis in reality.
I concur 100%.
Sorry I have never heard anyone say they could not see a waving flag, motion is easier to see out of your peripheral vision.
None of it was great, but the reason Jett didnt see it is because he kept looking back to see where Eli was.
This is professional racing. The flags are there for a reason and these guys are supposed to pay attention to them. Jetts mind was on celebrating and the finish of the race. But there are still safety considerations at play. Ithe race is not over.
I can see arguments on both sides. From the picture above, it looks like its clearly displayed. But definitely being on the inside makes it harder ti see.
Listen the Plessinger ( I think) on the Pulp interviews.....specifically said that and he is not wrong. The issues jumping on flags is riders always say they cannot see it. I get it. Max heart rate at the end of the race and trying to look for things is not easy.
It actually looks pretty good in the OP's screenshot. Sticks out like a sore thumb and Jett's practically aimed right at it. The image makes the checkered flag look like much worse placement. Waving the red cross might obfuscate the cross, then it just looks like a white flag with something indistinguishable on it.
What! was it a conspiracy theory when Vince Friese was trying to get someone to accept his bounty to take out Ken Roczen and Justin Brayton in the Australian WSX. We already know what his character and reputation is, so why is it so hard to believe that he's taken on that villain role and likes the opportunity to blantantly take out Championship winning riders and banking on people just accepting it as a racing incident. Imagine the uproar that would have been caused if it had been Eli Tomac take out last night by either Barcia or Friese. You can't argue this board would have exploded if Eli Tomac was the points leader and Vince Friese torpedoed Tomac in that turn and injured him. Tony Alessi and his band of MCR Dipshits need to go.
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Jett has less than a second to react from the time he see's the flag to then try and back off clearing that jump.
Lol, how would Friese know that Jett would be stupid enough to jump on a red cross flag? And why would he crash himself on the off chance that might happen to Jett instead of Tomac and everyone else?
And maybe your memory has been damaged, but Friese wasn't the one who hit Jett in the 3rd race.
You sound unhinged
And yet Tomac and the vast majority of riders saw it and didn't jump, lol. You have no valid argument
If he chopped the throttle at the point of eye contact with the flag it would have resulted in an endo that promptly deposited him on the downed rider.
The SX series does not need the AMA, Feld would handle it much better.
Maybe I was not clear, my point was stationery to waving, waving gets way more noticeability.
With that being said, the cross flag was NOT in a good position to see and is the fagging person's responsibility to make sure it can be noticed with ease.
That joker last night was wasting his time holding it like that and in that position.
5 of the top 6 in series points did not see the flag, it’s kind of a valid argument don’t you think? 1 or 2….okay, but 5 of the top 6?
Imagine if he had great reaction times, like those of a top SX racer. The flag was obvious.
That’s your position on this? Yikes.
EVERY penalty for Jason Anderson is automatically doubled
Good thing there was a waving flag right next to it. Clearly they didn’t look.
You just went full on batshit crazy...
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