New 2023 YZ450F

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Abean3 wrote:
Does anyone know the size of the smaller drain bolt crush washer located on the crank case cover?   OEM is $8 plus shipping.  I'd imagine I...

Does anyone know the size of the smaller drain bolt crush washer located on the crank case cover?  

OEM is $8 plus shipping.  I'd imagine I could get something comparable at the hardware store for much cheaper. 

lumpy790 wrote:
That is the coolant drain bolt washer. I do not think I have ever seen copper crush washers for sale at a hardware store. Did you...

That is the coolant drain bolt washer.

I do not think I have ever seen copper crush washers for sale at a hardware store. Did you check with your local dealer to see if they have them?

No I haven't checked with a local dealer yet.  I usually grab stuff off on RMATV.  

I am talking about the smaller of the two oil drain bolts, the one just up from the shift lever on the crankcase cover.  The manual calls it "Engine Oil Drain Bolt (Oil Tank)". 

Are you saying it is the same size as the coolant drain bolt washer?  

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Abean3 wrote:
Does anyone know the size of the smaller drain bolt crush washer located on the crank case cover?   OEM is $8 plus shipping.  I'd imagine I...

Does anyone know the size of the smaller drain bolt crush washer located on the crank case cover?  

OEM is $8 plus shipping.  I'd imagine I could get something comparable at the hardware store for much cheaper. 

lumpy790 wrote:
That is the coolant drain bolt washer. I do not think I have ever seen copper crush washers for sale at a hardware store. Did you...

That is the coolant drain bolt washer.

I do not think I have ever seen copper crush washers for sale at a hardware store. Did you check with your local dealer to see if they have them?

Abean3 wrote:
No I haven't checked with a local dealer yet.  I usually grab stuff off on RMATV.   I am talking about the smaller of the two oil...

No I haven't checked with a local dealer yet.  I usually grab stuff off on RMATV.  

I am talking about the smaller of the two oil drain bolts, the one just up from the shift lever on the crankcase cover.  The manual calls it "Engine Oil Drain Bolt (Oil Tank)". 

Are you saying it is the same size as the coolant drain bolt washer?  

If it's just an aluminum sealing washer, those can usually be had from places like eBay/Amazon in multi-packs, typically for a lot less than the OE wants for a single. Just get the ID/OD and thickness to match it up.

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lumpy790 wrote:
That is the coolant drain bolt washer. I do not think I have ever seen copper crush washers for sale at a hardware store. Did you...

That is the coolant drain bolt washer.

I do not think I have ever seen copper crush washers for sale at a hardware store. Did you check with your local dealer to see if they have them?

Abean3 wrote:
No I haven't checked with a local dealer yet.  I usually grab stuff off on RMATV.   I am talking about the smaller of the two oil...

No I haven't checked with a local dealer yet.  I usually grab stuff off on RMATV.  

I am talking about the smaller of the two oil drain bolts, the one just up from the shift lever on the crankcase cover.  The manual calls it "Engine Oil Drain Bolt (Oil Tank)". 

Are you saying it is the same size as the coolant drain bolt washer?  

If it's just an aluminum sealing washer, those can usually be had from places like eBay/Amazon in multi-packs, typically for a lot less than the OE...

If it's just an aluminum sealing washer, those can usually be had from places like eBay/Amazon in multi-packs, typically for a lot less than the OE wants for a single. Just get the ID/OD and thickness to match it up.

Yeah man good call.  It's just a simple washer, so a bulk pack would be great to find. 

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Abean3 wrote:
No I haven't checked with a local dealer yet.  I usually grab stuff off on RMATV.   I am talking about the smaller of the two oil...

No I haven't checked with a local dealer yet.  I usually grab stuff off on RMATV.  

I am talking about the smaller of the two oil drain bolts, the one just up from the shift lever on the crankcase cover.  The manual calls it "Engine Oil Drain Bolt (Oil Tank)". 

Are you saying it is the same size as the coolant drain bolt washer?  

If it's just an aluminum sealing washer, those can usually be had from places like eBay/Amazon in multi-packs, typically for a lot less than the OE...

If it's just an aluminum sealing washer, those can usually be had from places like eBay/Amazon in multi-packs, typically for a lot less than the OE wants for a single. Just get the ID/OD and thickness to match it up.

Abean3 wrote:

Yeah man good call.  It's just a simple washer, so a bulk pack would be great to find. 

I ran rubber crush washers for a while when I had some drain plug issues. They work pretty damn well. Never had an issue. 

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If it's just an aluminum sealing washer, those can usually be had from places like eBay/Amazon in multi-packs, typically for a lot less than the OE...

If it's just an aluminum sealing washer, those can usually be had from places like eBay/Amazon in multi-packs, typically for a lot less than the OE wants for a single. Just get the ID/OD and thickness to match it up.

Abean3 wrote:

Yeah man good call.  It's just a simple washer, so a bulk pack would be great to find. 

Zycki11 wrote:

I ran rubber crush washers for a while when I had some drain plug issues. They work pretty damn well. Never had an issue. 

Well according to RMATV it is an M6 washer.  Their oil change kit includes a M10 and M6 crush washer for the two drain plugs.  They sell a 10 pack of M6 washers for $5.  

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SDG Seats in orange county will build a seat to your specs, send them your entire seat, four days later they’ll mail you back your perfect seat, great quality!

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3/25/2024 6:52am Edited Date/Time 3/25/2024 6:54am

Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next to no reviews for race tech stuff on these.

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maupin226 wrote:
Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next...

Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next to no reviews for race tech stuff on these.

Stick with Enzo and be done. They understand the bike and the components better 

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3/25/2024 7:38am
maupin226 wrote:
Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next...

Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next to no reviews for race tech stuff on these.

Zycki11 wrote:

Stick with Enzo and be done. They understand the bike and the components better 

Agreed!

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3/25/2024 7:41am
maupin226 wrote:
Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next...

Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next to no reviews for race tech stuff on these.

A close friend of mine loves the Race Tech setup on his 2024.  I rode it and thought it was really good as well.   

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3/25/2024 8:02am Edited Date/Time 3/25/2024 8:31am
maupin226 wrote:
Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next...

Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next to no reviews for race tech stuff on these.

Contact Levi Kilbarger at Bonzi Suspension in Logan, OH. 

He races a '23 YZ450 with Race Tech products

Edit - When you call, tell him what you want. I know that may sound crazy but in my case,

I want bottoming resistance and small bump plushness. He works with a huge range of rider skill levels and ages.

Can't say enough good things about his work and work ethic. 

 

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3/25/2024 10:37am
maupin226 wrote:
Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next...

Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next to no reviews for race tech stuff on these.

mjshafer62 wrote:
Contact Levi Kilbarger at Bonzi Suspension in Logan, OH.  He races a '23 YZ450 with Race Tech products Edit - When you call, tell him what...

Contact Levi Kilbarger at Bonzi Suspension in Logan, OH. 

He races a '23 YZ450 with Race Tech products

Edit - When you call, tell him what you want. I know that may sound crazy but in my case,

I want bottoming resistance and small bump plushness. He works with a huge range of rider skill levels and ages.

Can't say enough good things about his work and work ethic. 

 

Yeah Levi is close to me as well. I had him do a 19 kx for me that was good. We're fortunate to have a bunch of good suspension guys in the Ohio area.

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Dont even have one yet but already started ordering stuff lol... PXL 20240323 152757250.jpg?VersionId=KWbOVW20VonRbGnC6vhKMebGyXb

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3/26/2024 2:58pm

We finally got around to doing our tank lid mod!Messenger creation 4b9c57b5-1459-4070-8634-54c621266721

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sgrimmxdad wrote:
We finally got around to doing our tank lid mod!

We finally got around to doing our tank lid mod!Messenger creation 4b9c57b5-1459-4070-8634-54c621266721

How do I get one for my 24 yz450?

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Can anyone tell me if previous gen triple clamps work? How about if previous gen top triple clamps alone will work? 

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Meister wrote:

Can anyone tell me if previous gen triple clamps work? How about if previous gen top triple clamps alone will work? 

Clamps (including aftermarket) that fit the previous gen will fit the current gen (goes back to 2010).  The current top clamp is the same part number for current vs previous gen (so "yes" to your second question), but the bottom clamp is different (likely a different flex characteristic).  Both are the same offset though (22mm).

Kinda unusual to only swap the top clamp on a newer bike (I did so on a 2005 YZ125 to get away from cast bar mounts and use fatbars).  What gives?

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Meister wrote:

Can anyone tell me if previous gen triple clamps work? How about if previous gen top triple clamps alone will work? 

motocrisis wrote:
Clamps (including aftermarket) that fit the previous gen will fit the current gen (goes back to 2010).  The current top clamp is the same part number...

Clamps (including aftermarket) that fit the previous gen will fit the current gen (goes back to 2010).  The current top clamp is the same part number for current vs previous gen (so "yes" to your second question), but the bottom clamp is different (likely a different flex characteristic).  Both are the same offset though (22mm).

Kinda unusual to only swap the top clamp on a newer bike (I did so on a 2005 YZ125 to get away from cast bar mounts and use fatbars).  What gives?

My reasoning is incase i come across a deal on a top clamp only in the Neken clamp to try their sfs system without going all in. Great info tho. 

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Meister wrote:

Can anyone tell me if previous gen triple clamps work? How about if previous gen top triple clamps alone will work? 

motocrisis wrote:
Clamps (including aftermarket) that fit the previous gen will fit the current gen (goes back to 2010).  The current top clamp is the same part number...

Clamps (including aftermarket) that fit the previous gen will fit the current gen (goes back to 2010).  The current top clamp is the same part number for current vs previous gen (so "yes" to your second question), but the bottom clamp is different (likely a different flex characteristic).  Both are the same offset though (22mm).

Kinda unusual to only swap the top clamp on a newer bike (I did so on a 2005 YZ125 to get away from cast bar mounts and use fatbars).  What gives?

Meister wrote:
My reasoning is incase i come across a deal on a top clamp only in the Neken clamp to try their sfs system without going all...

My reasoning is incase i come across a deal on a top clamp only in the Neken clamp to try their sfs system without going all in. Great info tho. 

Ah got it, makes total sense.

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Meister wrote:

Can anyone tell me if previous gen triple clamps work? How about if previous gen top triple clamps alone will work? 

motocrisis wrote:
Clamps (including aftermarket) that fit the previous gen will fit the current gen (goes back to 2010).  The current top clamp is the same part number...

Clamps (including aftermarket) that fit the previous gen will fit the current gen (goes back to 2010).  The current top clamp is the same part number for current vs previous gen (so "yes" to your second question), but the bottom clamp is different (likely a different flex characteristic).  Both are the same offset though (22mm).

Kinda unusual to only swap the top clamp on a newer bike (I did so on a 2005 YZ125 to get away from cast bar mounts and use fatbars).  What gives?

Back to 2010 on the 450 and 2012 on the 250F are the same fitment. The only exception being the 2016-2017 450 being 25mm offset instead of 22 (possibly the 2017 250 as well?). 

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3/27/2024 4:35am
sgrimmxdad wrote:
We finally got around to doing our tank lid mod!

We finally got around to doing our tank lid mod!Messenger creation 4b9c57b5-1459-4070-8634-54c621266721

LLOYD22 wrote:

How do I get one for my 24 yz450?

Shoot me a DM or look us up on social media or google, TAGMX

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Meister wrote:

Can anyone tell me if previous gen triple clamps work? How about if previous gen top triple clamps alone will work? 

motocrisis wrote:
Clamps (including aftermarket) that fit the previous gen will fit the current gen (goes back to 2010).  The current top clamp is the same part number...

Clamps (including aftermarket) that fit the previous gen will fit the current gen (goes back to 2010).  The current top clamp is the same part number for current vs previous gen (so "yes" to your second question), but the bottom clamp is different (likely a different flex characteristic).  Both are the same offset though (22mm).

Kinda unusual to only swap the top clamp on a newer bike (I did so on a 2005 YZ125 to get away from cast bar mounts and use fatbars).  What gives?

Luxon MX wrote:
Back to 2010 on the 450 and 2012 on the 250F are the same fitment. The only exception being the 2016-2017 450 being 25mm offset instead...

Back to 2010 on the 450 and 2012 on the 250F are the same fitment. The only exception being the 2016-2017 450 being 25mm offset instead of 22 (possibly the 2017 250 as well?). 

Thanks for that. If i dont end up finding that technology to try, i may try a set of your bar mounts. Im not one who needs full clamps for bling, but just like the idea of added comfort in the bar mounts. I had actually sent you a resume awhile back when I was on Honda's but hadnt heard back. Must not have made the cut. Lol 

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Meister wrote:
Thanks for that. If i dont end up finding that technology to try, i may try a set of your bar mounts. Im not one who...

Thanks for that. If i dont end up finding that technology to try, i may try a set of your bar mounts. Im not one who needs full clamps for bling, but just like the idea of added comfort in the bar mounts. I had actually sent you a resume awhile back when I was on Honda's but hadnt heard back. Must not have made the cut. Lol 

We've just been so slammed we haven't done much with the rider support program aside from various pro teams and riders. Hoping to open that up to more racers soon later this year, just been hard to keep up with everything as-is!

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Meister wrote:
Thanks for that. If i dont end up finding that technology to try, i may try a set of your bar mounts. Im not one who...

Thanks for that. If i dont end up finding that technology to try, i may try a set of your bar mounts. Im not one who needs full clamps for bling, but just like the idea of added comfort in the bar mounts. I had actually sent you a resume awhile back when I was on Honda's but hadnt heard back. Must not have made the cut. Lol 

Luxon MX wrote:
We've just been so slammed we haven't done much with the rider support program aside from various pro teams and riders. Hoping to open that up...

We've just been so slammed we haven't done much with the rider support program aside from various pro teams and riders. Hoping to open that up to more racers soon later this year, just been hard to keep up with everything as-is!

No worries! Lol. I get to drool over Crute's stuff! Lol

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sgrimmxdad wrote:
We finally got around to doing our tank lid mod!

We finally got around to doing our tank lid mod!Messenger creation 4b9c57b5-1459-4070-8634-54c621266721

LLOYD22 wrote:

How do I get one for my 24 yz450?

I ordered the "1" JDM quick latch" off amazon for like $10.  I cut the pin bolt to make it fit exactly as needed to push air box cover fit tighter.

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sgrimmxdad wrote:
We finally got around to doing our tank lid mod!

We finally got around to doing our tank lid mod!Messenger creation 4b9c57b5-1459-4070-8634-54c621266721

LLOYD22 wrote:

How do I get one for my 24 yz450?

kennyc wrote:
I ordered the "1" JDM quick latch" off amazon for like $10.  I cut the pin bolt to make it fit exactly as needed to push...

I ordered the "1" JDM quick latch" off amazon for like $10.  I cut the pin bolt to make it fit exactly as needed to push air box cover fit tighter.

Do you have the amazon link?  Having trouble finding it.

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Ayyy... Thanks.. another something i didn't know i needed. Lol

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3/27/2024 9:00pm Edited Date/Time 3/28/2024 8:18am
maupin226 wrote:
Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next...

Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next to no reviews for race tech stuff on these.

I went with Enzo and THOUGHT is was really harsh. I was having serious issues with acceleration bumps out of turns sitting down. it was beating me like a jack hammer.  So I recently upgraded to the Guts wide seat soft foam and added 14mm to the height. It's a different bike I can sit down most anywhere, it feels so much more plush. It is amazing to me. My suspension feels insanely better. I'm 60 years though. If i had a choice of the Yoshi, Enzo or the Guts wide seat you can straight up only choose one. Guts seat foam upgrade all day long. The seat ruins this bike. I never would have thought it affected my suspension set up that much but I was setting up my bike around the crappy OEM seat. Had I upgraded the seat I may not have upgraded the suspension. I love the ENZO don't get me wrong I can flat land out of the sky and it soaks it up like a miracle but I had them set it up for race pace and my old butt can't run race pace very long in practice. Plus it's set up for 215 lb and I lost weight down to 200. Anyway my 2 cents. I will post a seat review with more pics comparing foam tomorrow. 

 

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maupin226 wrote:
Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next...

Any opinions/reviews on race tech setups with this bike? My local guy that I'd like to use is a race tech shop but I've seen next to no reviews for race tech stuff on these.

Crash82 wrote:
I went with Enzo and THOUGHT is was really harsh. I was having serious issues with acceleration bumps out of turns sitting down. it was beating...

I went with Enzo and THOUGHT is was really harsh. I was having serious issues with acceleration bumps out of turns sitting down. it was beating me like a jack hammer.  So I recently upgraded to the Guts wide seat soft foam and added 14mm to the height. It's a different bike I can sit down most anywhere, it feels so much more plush. It is amazing to me. My suspension feels insanely better. I'm 60 years though. If i had a choice of the Yoshi, Enzo or the Guts wide seat you can straight up only choose one. Guts seat foam upgrade all day long. The seat ruins this bike. I never would have thought it affected my suspension set up that much but I was setting up my bike around the crappy OEM seat. Had I upgraded the seat I may not have upgraded the suspension. I love the ENZO don't get me wrong I can flat land out of the sky and it soaks it up like a miracle but I had them set it up for race pace and my old butt can't run race pace very long in practice. Plus it's set up for 215 lb and I lost weight down to 200. Anyway my 2 cents. I will post a seat review with more pics comparing foam tomorrow. 

 

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I know you're 60 (I'll be 50 in two months), but relating suspension settings to seat foam is unreal.

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