Tomac should just retire

Sully wrote:

I really hope you’re one of Steve’s buddies just giving him shit, otherwise, you can get a running start and kiss my whole ass. GuyB is...

I really hope you’re one of Steve’s buddies just giving him shit, otherwise, you can get a running start and kiss my whole ass. GuyB is as legit as they come. 

dirtyhead451 wrote:

Lighten up, Francis. Do you get mad when people leave shopping carts loose in the parking lot? This place used to have an edge...

soggy wrote:

putting a cart back is really the bare minimum of being a decent human. 

ando wrote:

I was interested in Tomac's season so far from a stats point of view.  I looked at two things - comparison to how he has started...

I was interested in Tomac's season so far from a stats point of view.  I looked at two things - comparison to how he has started his previous 450SX seasons, and has ability to make his way forward in a race. 

First, here is how he has gone for the first six races since 2015 (I ignored 2013 and 2014 as they were clearly his "learning" years on the 450):

Observations: 

(1) this year is equal with 2015 as his worst start in terms of average finish position, except for 2018 when he had a horror start with a couple of crashes.  

(2) again ignoring 2018, this is his worst season with regard to where he sits on the points table, and the first time since 2016 where he's been outside the top 5.

(3) first time since 2016 that he hasn't won at least one of the first six races.

I then looked at the first six races to see how he has gone with making passes and moving through the pack.  So far he's had 8 gate drops (5 normal rounds plus the A2 triple crown).  Here's how it looks with positions gained and passes made:

Note:  passes executed excludes situations where a rider in front fell and Eli gained a position.

Who has he passed?  This guys he's passed twice - McElrath, AC, Prado, Clason, H Lawrence.  These guys he has passed once - AP, DF, Wilson, Bloss, Noren, Friese, Rodbell.

ando wrote:

I was interested in Tomac's season so far from a stats point of view.  I looked at two things - comparison to how he has started...

I was interested in Tomac's season so far from a stats point of view.  I looked at two things - comparison to how he has started his previous 450SX seasons, and has ability to make his way forward in a race. 

First, here is how he has gone for the first six races since 2015 (I ignored 2013 and 2014 as they were clearly his "learning" years on the 450):

Observations: 

(1) this year is equal with 2015 as his worst start in terms of average finish position, except for 2018 when he had a horror start with a couple of crashes.  

(2) again ignoring 2018, this is his worst season with regard to where he sits on the points table, and the first time since 2016 where he's been outside the top 5.

(3) first time since 2016 that he hasn't won at least one of the first six races.

I then looked at the first six races to see how he has gone with making passes and moving through the pack.  So far he's had 8 gate drops (5 normal rounds plus the A2 triple crown).  Here's how it looks with positions gained and passes made:

Note:  passes executed excludes situations where a rider in front fell and Eli gained a position.

Who has he passed?  This guys he's passed twice - McElrath, AC, Prado, Clason, H Lawrence.  These guys he has passed once - AP, DF, Wilson, Bloss, Noren, Friese, Rodbell.

Bobby Barracuda wrote:

Kenny pulls a McGrath 93 and goes on to win the championship 

dirtyhead451 wrote:

Lighten up, Francis. Do you get mad when people leave shopping carts loose in the parking lot? This place used to have an edge...

soggy wrote:

putting a cart back is really the bare minimum of being a decent human. 

dirtyhead451 wrote:

I think getting your trash in the can and picking up your dog's crap both trump abandoning a shopping cart.

dirtyhead451 wrote:

Suck it, has been!

Sully wrote:

I really hope you’re one of Steve’s buddies just giving him shit, otherwise, you can get a running start and kiss my whole ass. GuyB is...

I really hope you’re one of Steve’s buddies just giving him shit, otherwise, you can get a running start and kiss my whole ass. GuyB is as legit as they come. 

dirtyhead451 wrote:

Lighten up, Francis. Do you get mad when people leave shopping carts loose in the parking lot? This place used to have an edge...

soggy wrote:

putting a cart back is really the bare minimum of being a decent human. 

dirtyhead451 wrote:

I think getting your trash in the can and picking up your dog's crap both trump abandoning a shopping cart.

Press516 wrote:

Abandoning a shopping cart in a parking lot is still a lazy ass bitch move…

jonesaustin wrote:

I would be elated but not surprised if Eli showed up next weekend and ran away with it. honestly. that's just how he is.

bc775 wrote:

Beastmode!!!!!! After seeing that speed tonight. Tomac wins number 8 at daytona next weekend. Stamp it

bc775 wrote:

Just kidding. I know it hasnt gone that good But Who thinks Et3 can win at daytona? Unfortunately i havent seen anything that says he can...

Just kidding. I know it hasnt gone that good But Who thinks Et3 can win at daytona? Unfortunately i havent seen anything that says he can pull it off yet. 

G-man wrote:

Well bc775 can you breathe yet? 

Well bc775 can you breathe yet? 

bc775 wrote:

Took a hefty rope but im out.  Hey man everyone else was saying the same stuff lol. I just posted it on vital. 

davistld01 wrote:

Tomac always gets faster the more pissed off that he gets.