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What's the go with WSX Im just see them posting content from other Supercross events round da world and using other series content to promote theres what is going on with WSX Dora's any body know ? 

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wSX sucks.     That's what's going on.  

 

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Magoofan wrote:

wSX sucks.     That's what's going on.  

 

WSuX

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Magoofan wrote:

wSX sucks.     That's what's going on.  

 

What do you mean? The current World Supercross Champion just put on a clinic on our ama riders this past weekend, clearly the premier series brethren 😄 

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It'll be a five-round series in the off-season, but I think confirmation is a way off at this point. There will only be a 450F class.

It sounds like rounds could be held in Asia, the Middle East, South America and Oceania. That's all that's out there, for now.

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It'll be a five-round series in the off-season, but I think confirmation is a way off at this point. There will only be a 450F class...

It'll be a five-round series in the off-season, but I think confirmation is a way off at this point. There will only be a 450F class.

It sounds like rounds could be held in Asia, the Middle East, South America and Oceania. That's all that's out there, for now.

I want it to succeed, but surely the lack of info and going 450 only must be causing discord amongst the teams, very hard to organise riders and pitch for sponsorship. Based upon the events around cancellations last season, it would be fair to assume the teams know as much as the fans at this point.  Time for the panic button yet Lewis, or premature at this point? 

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It'll be a five-round series in the off-season, but I think confirmation is a way off at this point. There will only be a 450F class...

It'll be a five-round series in the off-season, but I think confirmation is a way off at this point. There will only be a 450F class.

It sounds like rounds could be held in Asia, the Middle East, South America and Oceania. That's all that's out there, for now.

JDub067 wrote:
I want it to succeed, but surely the lack of info and going 450 only must be causing discord amongst the teams, very hard to organise...

I want it to succeed, but surely the lack of info and going 450 only must be causing discord amongst the teams, very hard to organise riders and pitch for sponsorship. Based upon the events around cancellations last season, it would be fair to assume the teams know as much as the fans at this point.  Time for the panic button yet Lewis, or premature at this point? 

I believe there are conversations going on behind the scenes at the moment to get teams and promoters on the same page.

No panic button yet. I actually think that only running one class is a great move for them.

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It'll be a five-round series in the off-season, but I think confirmation is a way off at this point. There will only be a 450F class...

It'll be a five-round series in the off-season, but I think confirmation is a way off at this point. There will only be a 450F class.

It sounds like rounds could be held in Asia, the Middle East, South America and Oceania. That's all that's out there, for now.

A five-round series of two and a half races, as usual?

Laughing

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It'll be a five-round series in the off-season, but I think confirmation is a way off at this point. There will only be a 450F class...

It'll be a five-round series in the off-season, but I think confirmation is a way off at this point. There will only be a 450F class.

It sounds like rounds could be held in Asia, the Middle East, South America and Oceania. That's all that's out there, for now.

RACING wrote:
A five-round series of two and a half races, as usual?

A five-round series of two and a half races, as usual?

Laughing

They MUST know that they need to deliver on every promise this year. I'd imagine that's why it's been so quiet recently. 

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That's probably a good thing, indeed.

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The prospect of a reliable supercross series around the world, with varying top level competitors, was real exciting.

Was it just managed terribly and then they lost all their credibility bailing on dates they'd planned?

Or was there a genuine lack of interest? The limited Arenacross events in the UK seems to get fans in, French supercross seems to do well, this Indian dealy seems to be taking off... Australian supercross sounds like it's gone a little cold?

I'm asking, as I don't know, I'm not picking a fight 👍

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Whenever I see "WSX" I automatically think it means "Women's Supercross"

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WSX is great, watch how many yanks ride next Rd and every nation is now running arena cross for juniors and own country sx

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Richy wrote:
The prospect of a reliable supercross series around the world, with varying top level competitors, was real exciting. Was it just managed terribly and then they...

The prospect of a reliable supercross series around the world, with varying top level competitors, was real exciting.

Was it just managed terribly and then they lost all their credibility bailing on dates they'd planned?

Or was there a genuine lack of interest? The limited Arenacross events in the UK seems to get fans in, French supercross seems to do well, this Indian dealy seems to be taking off... Australian supercross sounds like it's gone a little cold?

I'm asking, as I don't know, I'm not picking a fight 👍

I think it was both. I applaud them for trying, but they just did not execute. 

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It'll be a five-round series in the off-season, but I think confirmation is a way off at this point. There will only be a 450F class...

It'll be a five-round series in the off-season, but I think confirmation is a way off at this point. There will only be a 450F class.

It sounds like rounds could be held in Asia, the Middle East, South America and Oceania. That's all that's out there, for now.

Are they going to double the riding time for 450? I think its a receipt for failure to run one class only unless it's way more riders entered (twice as many).

If they shrink the experience further, it's nothing left.

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It'll be a five-round series in the off-season, but I think confirmation is a way off at this point. There will only be a 450F class...

It'll be a five-round series in the off-season, but I think confirmation is a way off at this point. There will only be a 450F class.

It sounds like rounds could be held in Asia, the Middle East, South America and Oceania. That's all that's out there, for now.

JDub067 wrote:
I want it to succeed, but surely the lack of info and going 450 only must be causing discord amongst the teams, very hard to organise...

I want it to succeed, but surely the lack of info and going 450 only must be causing discord amongst the teams, very hard to organise riders and pitch for sponsorship. Based upon the events around cancellations last season, it would be fair to assume the teams know as much as the fans at this point.  Time for the panic button yet Lewis, or premature at this point? 

I believe there are conversations going on behind the scenes at the moment to get teams and promoters on the same page. No panic button yet...

I believe there are conversations going on behind the scenes at the moment to get teams and promoters on the same page.

No panic button yet. I actually think that only running one class is a great move for them.

How is one class a great move for them. I’m legit curious how you can ration that into a positive. I’m all about the series but less racing and riders pushes me in the opposite direction of you on this. 

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Trying to find 4 stadiums big enough for arenacross and call it wsx must be hard work. 

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JDub067 wrote:
I want it to succeed, but surely the lack of info and going 450 only must be causing discord amongst the teams, very hard to organise...

I want it to succeed, but surely the lack of info and going 450 only must be causing discord amongst the teams, very hard to organise riders and pitch for sponsorship. Based upon the events around cancellations last season, it would be fair to assume the teams know as much as the fans at this point.  Time for the panic button yet Lewis, or premature at this point? 

I believe there are conversations going on behind the scenes at the moment to get teams and promoters on the same page. No panic button yet...

I believe there are conversations going on behind the scenes at the moment to get teams and promoters on the same page.

No panic button yet. I actually think that only running one class is a great move for them.

How is one class a great move for them. I’m legit curious how you can ration that into a positive. I’m all about the series but...

How is one class a great move for them. I’m legit curious how you can ration that into a positive. I’m all about the series but less racing and riders pushes me in the opposite direction of you on this. 

Look, they will never attract the current 250F stars. Those riders are chasing a career in the USA, so SX2 will always be weak.

If they eliminate SX2, they could cut a lot of their costs (prize money, team payouts and whatnot). It is smart for their business.

Maybe not great from a 'sporting' point of view, but it will help a business that is not the healthiest.

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Look, they will never attract the current 250F stars. Those riders are chasing a career in the USA, so SX2 will always be weak. If they...

Look, they will never attract the current 250F stars. Those riders are chasing a career in the USA, so SX2 will always be weak.

If they eliminate SX2, they could cut a lot of their costs (prize money, team payouts and whatnot). It is smart for their business.

Maybe not great from a 'sporting' point of view, but it will help a business that is not the healthiest.

That actually makes sense from a cost and rider attraction standpoint, and the 450 class will hopefully attract some names later in their careers trying to bolster their finances with the time they have left! 

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I believe there are conversations going on behind the scenes at the moment to get teams and promoters on the same page. No panic button yet...

I believe there are conversations going on behind the scenes at the moment to get teams and promoters on the same page.

No panic button yet. I actually think that only running one class is a great move for them.

How is one class a great move for them. I’m legit curious how you can ration that into a positive. I’m all about the series but...

How is one class a great move for them. I’m legit curious how you can ration that into a positive. I’m all about the series but less racing and riders pushes me in the opposite direction of you on this. 

Look, they will never attract the current 250F stars. Those riders are chasing a career in the USA, so SX2 will always be weak. If they...

Look, they will never attract the current 250F stars. Those riders are chasing a career in the USA, so SX2 will always be weak.

If they eliminate SX2, they could cut a lot of their costs (prize money, team payouts and whatnot). It is smart for their business.

Maybe not great from a 'sporting' point of view, but it will help a business that is not the healthiest.

So how is that more appealing to the team owners?  They now have less income from the series and are less appealing to a sponsor who just had their exposure cut in half.  As a person who is spending money on tickets, there's no way I'm paying the same ticket price for half the racing action.  The only one who benefits is the series owner/promoter. 

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I believe there are conversations going on behind the scenes at the moment to get teams and promoters on the same page. No panic button yet...

I believe there are conversations going on behind the scenes at the moment to get teams and promoters on the same page.

No panic button yet. I actually think that only running one class is a great move for them.

How is one class a great move for them. I’m legit curious how you can ration that into a positive. I’m all about the series but...

How is one class a great move for them. I’m legit curious how you can ration that into a positive. I’m all about the series but less racing and riders pushes me in the opposite direction of you on this. 

Look, they will never attract the current 250F stars. Those riders are chasing a career in the USA, so SX2 will always be weak. If they...

Look, they will never attract the current 250F stars. Those riders are chasing a career in the USA, so SX2 will always be weak.

If they eliminate SX2, they could cut a lot of their costs (prize money, team payouts and whatnot). It is smart for their business.

Maybe not great from a 'sporting' point of view, but it will help a business that is not the healthiest.

Something else and I’ve always hated the saying, casual fan but there is a lot of people in the locations that they are going that are going to see a supercross for the first time. One class is a lot easier for new fans to keep up with. 

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How is one class a great move for them. I’m legit curious how you can ration that into a positive. I’m all about the series but...

How is one class a great move for them. I’m legit curious how you can ration that into a positive. I’m all about the series but less racing and riders pushes me in the opposite direction of you on this. 

Look, they will never attract the current 250F stars. Those riders are chasing a career in the USA, so SX2 will always be weak. If they...

Look, they will never attract the current 250F stars. Those riders are chasing a career in the USA, so SX2 will always be weak.

If they eliminate SX2, they could cut a lot of their costs (prize money, team payouts and whatnot). It is smart for their business.

Maybe not great from a 'sporting' point of view, but it will help a business that is not the healthiest.

dkurtd wrote:
So how is that more appealing to the team owners?  They now have less income from the series and are less appealing to a sponsor who...

So how is that more appealing to the team owners?  They now have less income from the series and are less appealing to a sponsor who just had their exposure cut in half.  As a person who is spending money on tickets, there's no way I'm paying the same ticket price for half the racing action.  The only one who benefits is the series owner/promoter. 

I'd imagine that they would have a national championship as a support class at each race, but I'm just guessing now.

You asked about sponsors... I am not sure if you have noticed at all, but WSX is not exactly attractive at the moment.

It needs to be taken off life support, first of all, and I would think that minimizing costs is a step towards that.

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How is one class a great move for them. I’m legit curious how you can ration that into a positive. I’m all about the series but...

How is one class a great move for them. I’m legit curious how you can ration that into a positive. I’m all about the series but less racing and riders pushes me in the opposite direction of you on this. 

Look, they will never attract the current 250F stars. Those riders are chasing a career in the USA, so SX2 will always be weak. If they...

Look, they will never attract the current 250F stars. Those riders are chasing a career in the USA, so SX2 will always be weak.

If they eliminate SX2, they could cut a lot of their costs (prize money, team payouts and whatnot). It is smart for their business.

Maybe not great from a 'sporting' point of view, but it will help a business that is not the healthiest.

joshd wrote:
Something else and I’ve always hated the saying, casual fan but there is a lot of people in the locations that they are going that are...

Something else and I’ve always hated the saying, casual fan but there is a lot of people in the locations that they are going that are going to see a supercross for the first time. One class is a lot easier for new fans to keep up with. 

They shortened the night show in Abu Dhabi, because they were worried that the fans would lose interest in too much racing.

Based on the proposed markets for 2024, I'd imagine that thinking is prevalent.

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JDub067 wrote:
I want it to succeed, but surely the lack of info and going 450 only must be causing discord amongst the teams, very hard to organise...

I want it to succeed, but surely the lack of info and going 450 only must be causing discord amongst the teams, very hard to organise riders and pitch for sponsorship. Based upon the events around cancellations last season, it would be fair to assume the teams know as much as the fans at this point.  Time for the panic button yet Lewis, or premature at this point? 

I believe there are conversations going on behind the scenes at the moment to get teams and promoters on the same page. No panic button yet...

I believe there are conversations going on behind the scenes at the moment to get teams and promoters on the same page.

No panic button yet. I actually think that only running one class is a great move for them.

How is one class a great move for them. I’m legit curious how you can ration that into a positive. I’m all about the series but...

How is one class a great move for them. I’m legit curious how you can ration that into a positive. I’m all about the series but less racing and riders pushes me in the opposite direction of you on this. 

One class means they have Friese track drama in every race! 

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Look, they will never attract the current 250F stars. Those riders are chasing a career in the USA, so SX2 will always be weak. If they...

Look, they will never attract the current 250F stars. Those riders are chasing a career in the USA, so SX2 will always be weak.

If they eliminate SX2, they could cut a lot of their costs (prize money, team payouts and whatnot). It is smart for their business.

Maybe not great from a 'sporting' point of view, but it will help a business that is not the healthiest.

joshd wrote:
Something else and I’ve always hated the saying, casual fan but there is a lot of people in the locations that they are going that are...

Something else and I’ve always hated the saying, casual fan but there is a lot of people in the locations that they are going that are going to see a supercross for the first time. One class is a lot easier for new fans to keep up with. 

They shortened the night show in Abu Dhabi, because they were worried that the fans would lose interest in too much racing. Based on the proposed...

They shortened the night show in Abu Dhabi, because they were worried that the fans would lose interest in too much racing.

Based on the proposed markets for 2024, I'd imagine that thinking is prevalent.

It's getting more and more attractive to the actual SX fan.

And more and more legit as a world championship.

That's the nice thing with WSX (and a good way to cut on communication costs): their original claim works every year...

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Something else and I’ve always hated the saying, casual fan but there is a lot of people in the locations that they are going that are...

Something else and I’ve always hated the saying, casual fan but there is a lot of people in the locations that they are going that are going to see a supercross for the first time. One class is a lot easier for new fans to keep up with. 

A world championship is not exactly supposed to be the Harlem Globe Trotters or Holiday on Ice. 

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2/17/2024 4:47am Edited Date/Time 2/17/2024 5:35am

They MUST know that they need to deliver on every promise this year. I'd imagine that's why it's been so quiet recently. 

It's such a fluid situation they honestly might not know themselves as far as scheduling 

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I’m good with 450 only if they run 12min triple crowns on a 1.5-2 hour max broadcast. I don’t want to see fluff for 3 hours to fill the 250 races that don’t happen. 

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joshd wrote:
Something else and I’ve always hated the saying, casual fan but there is a lot of people in the locations that they are going that are...

Something else and I’ve always hated the saying, casual fan but there is a lot of people in the locations that they are going that are going to see a supercross for the first time. One class is a lot easier for new fans to keep up with. 

RACING wrote:

A world championship is not exactly supposed to be the Harlem Globe Trotters or Holiday on Ice. 

Thanks, DC. 

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One class means they have Friese track drama in every race! 

Vince is actually the only reason to watch wannabeSX.

 

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2/17/2024 9:49am Edited Date/Time 2/17/2024 9:50am

Wow, one class ruins a whole lot more than just “less cost for the team.” Such a myopic view is so wrong. You can’t attract sponsors that way, similar to you can’t attract sponsors when you cut the rounds in half. And I’m not buying for a second that fans lose interest after half the show. If they do, your show format sucks, like running all the mains in a row so fast that NOBODY knows what’s going on. You lose all of the excitement trying to force a new gimmick. 

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