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He got it into neutral and it started right up, what am I missing here?
That factory Husky 450 team sure has been dominant.
I was just a district sales rep, nothing fancy.
As for bias, I have owned every Japanese brand, and all three from the KTM group. I raced honda and Kawasaki four strokes when I moved up to big bikes, bought Austrian bikes in 2016, bought my first RMZ’s when I worked there, went back to Austrian bikes, and decided between the RMZ and Kawasaki this year. I work on my friends Austrian bikes all the time, and there’s certainly things from each brand I appreciate, I just find it funny when people get so worked up about someone preferring another bike.
So many of those issues fall under the “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” mantra IMO.
Besides, those ‘08 RMZs were way ahead of their time anyway. This is testament to how ahead Suzuki used to be back in those days that their bikes can be largely unchanged for this long and still be in the mix at the top level every weekend.
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Per Larry Brooks, the team was testing an electric start in the off-season but it was causing a vibration and they ran out of time. He said it may be on the bike later in the year or next year.
I’m not saying they should fix it, im just saying it’s outdated, if you don’t like that, you can goto your local suzuki dealer and complain, I don’t cause I don’t care. Like I said above I think it has its place, unfortunately it’s last place.
It’s made that way so first gear and second gear are rideable and no worries of hitting neutral, the euro trannys are long…
they make it to where your not supposed to be able to get it into neutral when the bike is running…
I thought his restart was fairly reasonable considering the conditions. Muddy boots on a muddy kick starter usually makes it worse but she fired right up.
The point is that if he had a button, he’d have gotten going sooner, losing fewer positions. Yeah, he started it relatively quickly for a bike with a kickstart, but that’s irrelevant. Suzuki won’t put an electric start on their bike because they don’t care about winning anymore.
Yup..
This is not fact. I had times where I tried to start my offroad KTM while in gear and it didn't like it. I had to go to neutral and then it fired up quickly (with the button). Same as what happened to Roczen.
I think everyone here is forgetting the bike started right up, but it was twisted. He lost time getting it straightened back up, those suzuki clamps twist in a strong breeze.
My point is, in Saturdays situation, an electric start wouldn't have made much difference. He found neutral and it fired.
Electric start isn't a magical button that instantly gets your motorcycle back in the race. Obviously, Kenny had other issues.
Kenny has no doubt garnered new attention for this motorcycle which in turn means new development. I'd bet the farm the next model has one.
Did everyone catch how KR came out of the first corner in San Fran in the lead only to stall it on the first table top trying to pull a tear off? Fired back up pretty quick then also.
Still be nice to see a new RM-Z.
People aren't getting worked up about other peoples choices....
Where the problem is, when people that have never owned or ridden certain bikes telling everyone those bikes are just as good as another brand that they have also never ridden or owned.
Did it really? I dont remember that. But I dont remember the RMX450 very much either. It was only around for a year or two
Don’t refer to me- yes I’ve ridden them all and owned a few.
I also didn't think it cost him much/any more time wise than many of the electric start bikes, this time.
It certainly has cost time in the past and it definitely costs more in energy expended, when the heart rate is already jacked from dropping/picking up the bike.
Ultimately it is only gonna be an upside having the button in professional racing.
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List the 450s you've owned
Love reading all the knuckle draggers and thier "The zook needs updates" blather. It never gets old!
Suzuki is fine. Suzuki is raking in the cash globally and those guys in Japan know EXACTLY what they are doing. They dont give two shits if Joe Six pack in the USA thinks he needs "updates" to win a plastic trophy at local Lick-Skillet MX track or what the stupid "shoot-outs" have to say. They are a business and its all about making a profitable bottom line, and they are doing that very well.
Oh did I mention Im gonna buy new Zook this year? Yes, the "heavy" bike with a kick-start that doesn't have the "updates."
Flame on monkeys !!
lol let me know if you find any for a good price, we'll take a 2-pack.
Replies like this are funnier than anyone thinking a professional (not the average dude at the practice track) race bike shouldn't be the only one on track without electric start when the other 7, soon to be 9, manufacturers all do have it.
We all know the Suzuki is a perfectly capable bike and it still looks excellent to this day, but why not give it a minor, token upgrade to bring it into this decade?
That's what I don't get. Yes they're making a killing selling cheap cars and boat engines, why is that relevant? Oh, they have better things to do and they don't care about you, the rider.
I'm absolutely NOT a Suzuki hater, I like Suzuki's, so I'm disappointed they don't care about motocross anymore.
It would seem people on here think they are new to this whole notion of making motorcycles, racing them and what makes money. They've been playing this game for a long, long time and know what works and what doesnt. First off, they have an obligation to the shareholders. They've found out that winning on Sunday does not always mean sales on Monday. Theyve tried that, throwing huge amounts of cash at AMA racing and there wasnt a decent ROI. Its not that Suzuki "don't care about motocross anymore", they care about what makes a profit.
I have a few in my sights, will let ya know what I come up with.
It's always interesting to me how it's almost always the guys that don't ride them and have no intent to buy one that say they need an upgrade, yet the guys actually riding them really aren't asking for anything with the exception of a few.
I liked mine, but they were so heavy, almost too heavy to ever consider again, I preferred the 17 model over the 18. 18 model is pretty stinkbug feeling, 17 model felt more relaxed rear end. I do appreciate a suzuki. Just as much as I appreciate the one guy in here sticking up for them, but facts tell stories, and when you goto your local track or any track and you see people unloading their Yamahas, KTM group, Hondas bikes, there is a reason for that.
CLT: you saying you prefer the suzuki is good, it’s good for suzuki, and it’s good for you. I’m not saying you have made a bad choice nor am I unhappy with your decision, roczen looks great on his, as I’m sure you look great on yours, I unfortunately prefer the ktm 350sxf over the rmz450.
The KTM group 350 is a better bike than a RMZ 450 in my opinion, and as far as a suzuki crank being heavy, I find it extremely hard to believe it’s heavier than a pankl…
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