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Anyone see it? Must have been really bad/blatant considering half the field was exiting and reentering the track all over.
Friese Penalty
Penalty by association
Hunter Lawrence was doing the same thing. Don't know if he got penalized?
Apparently Vince gained a position when he went off track and got back on.
And come to think of it, I swear we seen him do something like that just a couple months ago!
Association with what? His own misdemeanours and track record?
As for Hunter, I didn’t watch live so I couldn’t comment on all the ridiculous outcry in the Race Thread about him skipping the whoops and making up time 😂
They showed him do it twice; first occasion he went off track over a tuff block. Second time we didn’t get to see the reason why he was off the track, but he lost two positions. Love to know how he was making up time by going over a tuff block and losing two positions?!
He did it right in front of me. He skipped the whole rhythm section! Then I seen Deano after moto and he said he transferred direct because they docked the prick. Deano is a tall mfr! Cool dude tho.
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I thought Barcia might be in trouble for the 1st lap of the lcq as he passed Cade Clason off the track, 2 place penalty would have still put him in the main tho,
Hunter was completely bypassing the whoops several times. That's gaining time. No penalty.
What a crock of shite....
Please read my comment, two comments above yours and tell me how Hunter gained time by going over a tuff block one time and losing two positions another?
I guess that you were okay when Webb did it a couple of years ago. Fell in the turn before the whoops, rode straight of the track instead of going through them and gained time without a penalty.
Exactly, Friese gained a position whilst cutting the track.
Hunter went off the side of the whoops twice and never gained position or time. So no penalty was given.
I never buy in to the ”gain an advantage” thing.
the same second you get off the track and earn a tenth doing it you have gained an advantage even if you kept your position.
in US people seem to focus on the position when riders go of the track, not time gained/lost. Against the other riders on track that went through the section as you should.
Wah wah wahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Actually if you have ever read the ama rulebook you see it clearly defined. You can gain an advantage without gaining a position. It clearly delineates it. You're correct.
You’re telling me you can’t tell the difference between a rider going off track and reentering in the same position vs. a rider going off track, skipping obstacles and making a pass? You’re the only person mentioning “an advantage”.
In saying that you should re-enter the track where you got off (if possible) not ride beside it and re-enter it and not get a penalty just because ju re enter in the same position as you were when you got of track, but possible gained two seconds in time.
you can either try to understand or try to misunderstand. It’s clear that you choose the later one.
Yup.
The issue I have is if you fuck up. Your ment to lose time. Riders ride along the track side and re-enter just behind where they are. So they only lose 2 seconds of time instead of 30.
The biggest case of this happening was mxon Italy a couple years ago. Alessandro lupino came into the 1st corner about 7th had a massive moment. Went off track and re-entered in the 3rd corner in 6th and got a tiny penalty. He should have come out in last. He negated his mistake by cutting the track and returning in his position. To me that's gaining an advantage coz he should have been last.
We need stop boxes or something so you actually lose time when going off track.
If you exit the track you either have to re-enter where you left.
Or you have to come to a complete stop for like 3 seconds before re-entering.
So often you see guys cruise a whole section so they don't lose time from there mistake.
F1 have got this. If you go of track in some places ypu need to follow a certain route through a chicane and if you don’t do that you will end up with a time penalty.
Dangerous racer and a multiple cheat.
He must be the dumbest fucker ever, cause he never learns.
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If you absolutely don’t GAF, how would you ever “learn”?
Exactly, all the talk about wear and tear on the bikes. Energy saved by skipping whoops twice must have been nice. They removed the whoops because they were too tough to do for the mains. I like how RC said Hunter needed to find a new line thru the whoops because he kept going off track...pshhhh Hunter found the fastest line ha.
Love that for Vince
Friese has scored 0 points this year, yikes
I agree with you whole heartedly.
Maybe they should change the rule that you cannot re-enter the track before at least 1 person passes you, or a flat 3 seconds added to your overall race time. However IF you were forced off the track by another rider it does not apply. Clearly we can all agree you're not supposed to go off the track and going off the track is a mistake. We can all agree a mistake should mean you're not as fast as if you're mistake free.
Oh, Vince has “learned “— he’s learned that he usually gets away with it. After all these years of pulling sketchy, dangerous shit , he STILL has a ride and gets paid.
He made some off track passes at the GH 2 stroke national 10 years ago. The DQ’ed him for the day, it was great.
But does the "rule" say he will be in "B" group next week?
If I was team guy that got 5th in 450 lcq I would have complained about #51. He passed two guys when he went off the track and got back on.
even though RC said “ he did that perfectly and got back on with out passing anyone “😂
Did Hunta get a penalty? He apparently doesn't like whoops. I figure the AMA will have a "revised" rulebook by the end of the year to accommodate the royal Lawrence family.
Some guy on Instagram said they said "Jett" over 600 times in both Race day and the actual broadcast....WTH
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