Is it just my self noticing or do they constantly have bike issues with either motor swap outs in-between races/ heats to bike bogging in or before races. I just notice more then any other team how many more bike issues they have then other teams..
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They are on an all new package for this year, shit happens especially in smaller teams. Gutted for Phil tho, he looked great in the heat race.
It’s not like there is a bounch of new technology going in to the engines now days.
a new package is a new cam profile and a different compression more or less.
bogs etc is a electrical failure, like a temp or map sensor and should not be happening in 2024.
What do you expect from a satellite team trying to (successfully) dice with the factories on 250s. I’m surprised they don’t have more issues
How ironic for Phil. They make 22 get zero points and he is the first person to make the main and get 0.
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Sometimes the simplest shit still catches you out despite massive efforts to prevent it.
They all looked genuinely confused about the situation so it's bit likes it's negligence. These guys have been grinding for months, I'm sure if this was happening during that time it would have been addressed.
Unfortunately washing bikes 4(ish) times in a day is a great way to introduce electrical issues. Sucks that it happened at that time but better than it happening in a rhythm section and causing another serious injury. I'm glad that cooler heads prevailed and Phil wasn't sent out on a death trap. They will learn from it and move ahead.
Perhaps Phil missing this race will forestall his annual supercross injury tradition.
Phil said it last night. It happens. Sometimes the gremlins get you. There’s so much electrical stuff on these bikes now, I’m surprised we don’t see more hiccups across the board.
Phil handled that well in the interview , I”m sure he was fuming….
With all the electrical components and smart phone tuning, I'm surprised these guys can't look at a phone or laptop and know instantly what's wrong. OBD scanners for cars have been around for decades. I have one I got on Amazon for $30.
The diagnostics on a modern motorcycle are unfortunately not at OB2 level, it’s pretty much a flash sequence on the map switch to tell you a sensors unplugged/bad, much faster to do what they were doing
Thing was starving for fuel. Never has been easy for Phil.
The angry fast finger taps on the bike gave it away, and him having to rev the bike for the mechanic
I don’t know why he didn’t start the race and trail ride till he got black flagged. He would have pointed if he did.
The bike was able to make it from the truck to the track and then started stuttering on the site lap, when he reached his mechanic is was bogging, then they couldn't get it started... Was it out of gas? It wouldn't be the first time a team forgot to put gas in.
Ha, the folks riding today are so used to how reliable and durable the bikes are today. No idea how the struggles were from years ago. Soo many mechanical dnfs.
I’m sure they had it hooked up to a laptop as soon as they got the bike back to the pits to look at all the CAN signals as well as the onboard data from the sighting lap which might have shown some leading indicators.
Most likely some sort of sensor fault that controls fuel delivery and/or timing. The challenge is getting down to root cause & preventing it from happening again.
I’m thinking the bike was fine while cool but as Phil built some heat into it one of the sensors started going out of range
Guy should be an actor. Million dollar interview. I wanna hear what the fly on the wall heard after. Lol
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Off topic .But those bikes and that gear are the ugliest in history.
Looked as if they had some clutch issues eariler in the day, I was there when they were taking it apart and putting it back together as Phil was checking lever action to get him out in qualifying.
Also saw Jamie from TD there making some changes to the calibration after qualifying before the races started.
Bummed for Phil.
Seems like they are still having clutch issues again this year
Unless they are trying to shortcut proper maintenance I don’t understand clutch issues. Hinson and Rekluse provide the clutches for factory teams it’s not a factory part so Club should be able to just install it correctly ride and then replace it
You don't say...
Wasn't there a summer when Star bikes kept blowing up?
The Yamaha 250F is a very delicate and fragile base when making power. In Europe barely anyone touches them on a competitive level without factory support because the costs of changing parts is so high.
Pretty sure alex martin had more motor swaps then anyone i know
They don't was bikes in supercross so was probably not a water in the electrical issue. I mean i'm with you i'm glad phil did not go out there & risk injury. we need him healthy! Hopefully this doesn't continue to happen for club mx bikes.
Honda smoked in a lap, kawi in a few laps.. yams kept peckin away..
Looked pretty damn solid tonight
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