Moto Money Shootout - Sign up OVER $400,000 IN PAYOUTS

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Edited Date/Time 1/1/2024 5:30pm

Event Details:

Name: Moto Money Shootout

Location: Pax Trax Motocross Resort 2535 North St, Bunnell, FL 32110

Mission: To offer a race with substantial cash payouts or contingency cards for amateurs, going beyond traditional trophy rewards.

Classes / Entry Fee 

50 cc Open - $500

65 cc Open - $500

85 cc Open (Big wheel, No SPR Mini) - $500

2 Stroke Open - $750

250 Open - $1000

450 Open - $1500

Race Structure:

OVER $400,000 IN CASH AND CONTINGENCY PAYOUTS

The event features six classes, accommodating the first 100 riders per class.

Up to 10 alternates are allowed once a class reaches capacity.

1/3 of the entry fee is due at sign-up, and the remainder is due on race day.

The payout structure is designed to benefit racers, with the top 38 of each class receiving payouts.

Pax Trax Motocross Resort is known for its rich chocolate cake-colored dirt, big beautiful bowl berms, and big flowy jumps.

Instagram @Motomoneyshootout

SIGN UP HERE > https://secure.tracksideprereg.com/liveview/?event=148

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1/2/2024 3:39pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:

We did not post that. This is the official for this event. 

Is there any of the purse guaranteed or is it all from entry fee's and depends on how many riders enter per class ?  

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JustMX
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1/3/2024 7:26pm
lostboy819 wrote:

Is there any of the purse guaranteed or is it all from entry fee's and depends on how many riders enter per class ?  

Waving my hand in the back of the class...

"I know!"

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The Shop

1/4/2024 8:53am Edited Date/Time 1/4/2024 9:43am
lostboy819 wrote:

Is there any of the purse guaranteed or is it all from entry fee's and depends on how many riders enter per class ?  

JustMX wrote:

Waving my hand in the back of the class...

"I know!"

Its funny how these guys putting on the race have become silent. Cool  

This is off their website:  " The advertised Cash/Contingency payouts are based on 100 entries per class. The pay structure will decrease with less entries. The pay structures are based off increments of 25 rider groups" 

Moto Money $hootout

Online Reg Closes:  2/28/2024, 7:00:00 AM

SIGN-UP

Sign-ups will open Jan. 1st 2024. At the time of the sign up there is a 1/3 of the race entry fee due as a Deposit. If the racer backs out 50% of their deposit will be returned. If the race is canceled for any reason the racers Deposit will be RETURNED

Pay-outs

The Moto Money Shoot out pays out all classes as Pro and Amateur. The Pro/ A riders will receive cash pay outs the day of the race. Amateurs will receive a Visa Contingency card through Bento for Business or an online account can be set up through Bento for E Pay. The Amatuer Pay outs may take a few days to fund the contingency account. Each rider must fill out a 1099 before receiving pay outs.

Pay-out Structure

The advertised Cash/Contingency payouts are based on 100 entries per class. The pay structure will decrease with less entries. The pay structures are based off increments of 25 rider groups.

Event Schedule

Tuesday:  Practice
Wednesday:  Site Lap before racing begins

Race Format

Each Class will run up to 3 heat races.
Top 10 from each Heat race advance to Main. Top 5 out of each LCQ advance to Main.

The Mains

450 is 20 minutes + 2 Laps

250 is 15 minutes + 2 Laps

50,65,85 and 2- Stroke Open is 10 Mins +1 lap

Refunds

A racer can request a refund within 8 days or more before the race. The racer will receive 50% of their deposit back. There will be no refunds within the 7 days of the race. If the race is canceled for any reason on the promoter’s side the racers will receive the full deposit back. 

Scoring 

Races are scored in Supercross format.  Main is overall.  

Transponders are required.  Transponders are available to rent onsite or by pre-rental.   

RENTAL - $25    (unless otherwise noted)

All Credit/Debit cards are accepted and must be completed online or at Kiosk.  Cash rentals require a $100 cash deposit in addition to the rental fee.  The deposit will be returned when the transponder is returned at the end of the event.  Forfeiture of the deposit does not in any way constitute transfer of ownership.  The transponder remains property of LiveView Timing.

 

Refund Policy:   A racer can request a refund within 8 days or more before the race. The racer will receive 50% of their deposit back. There will be no refunds within the 7 days of the race.

 

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kijen
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1/4/2024 9:57am
lostboy819 wrote:

Is there any of the purse guaranteed or is it all from entry fee's and depends on how many riders enter per class ?  

JustMX wrote:

Waving my hand in the back of the class...

"I know!"

lostboy819 wrote:
Its funny how these guys putting on the race have become silent.    This is off their website:  " The advertised Cash/Contingency payouts are based on 100 entries...

Its funny how these guys putting on the race have become silent. Cool  

This is off their website:  " The advertised Cash/Contingency payouts are based on 100 entries per class. The pay structure will decrease with less entries. The pay structures are based off increments of 25 rider groups" 

Moto Money $hootout

Online Reg Closes:  2/28/2024, 7:00:00 AM

SIGN-UP

Sign-ups will open Jan. 1st 2024. At the time of the sign up there is a 1/3 of the race entry fee due as a Deposit. If the racer backs out 50% of their deposit will be returned. If the race is canceled for any reason the racers Deposit will be RETURNED

Pay-outs

The Moto Money Shoot out pays out all classes as Pro and Amateur. The Pro/ A riders will receive cash pay outs the day of the race. Amateurs will receive a Visa Contingency card through Bento for Business or an online account can be set up through Bento for E Pay. The Amatuer Pay outs may take a few days to fund the contingency account. Each rider must fill out a 1099 before receiving pay outs.

Pay-out Structure

The advertised Cash/Contingency payouts are based on 100 entries per class. The pay structure will decrease with less entries. The pay structures are based off increments of 25 rider groups.

Event Schedule

Tuesday:  Practice
Wednesday:  Site Lap before racing begins

Race Format

Each Class will run up to 3 heat races.
Top 10 from each Heat race advance to Main. Top 5 out of each LCQ advance to Main.

The Mains

450 is 20 minutes + 2 Laps

250 is 15 minutes + 2 Laps

50,65,85 and 2- Stroke Open is 10 Mins +1 lap

Refunds

A racer can request a refund within 8 days or more before the race. The racer will receive 50% of their deposit back. There will be no refunds within the 7 days of the race. If the race is canceled for any reason on the promoter’s side the racers will receive the full deposit back. 

Scoring 

Races are scored in Supercross format.  Main is overall.  

Transponders are required.  Transponders are available to rent onsite or by pre-rental.   

RENTAL - $25    (unless otherwise noted)

All Credit/Debit cards are accepted and must be completed online or at Kiosk.  Cash rentals require a $100 cash deposit in addition to the rental fee.  The deposit will be returned when the transponder is returned at the end of the event.  Forfeiture of the deposit does not in any way constitute transfer of ownership.  The transponder remains property of LiveView Timing.

 

Refund Policy:   A racer can request a refund within 8 days or more before the race. The racer will receive 50% of their deposit back. There will be no refunds within the 7 days of the race.

 

Think vital is the epicenter of moto? Think people got time to check a message board daily. Im not involved, but seems like a guy or group are trying to do something cool, guess its just easy to bag on folks, rather then support or encourage.

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1/4/2024 10:38am Edited Date/Time 1/4/2024 10:40am
JustMX wrote:

Waving my hand in the back of the class...

"I know!"

lostboy819 wrote:
Its funny how these guys putting on the race have become silent.    This is off their website:  " The advertised Cash/Contingency payouts are based on 100 entries...

Its funny how these guys putting on the race have become silent. Cool  

This is off their website:  " The advertised Cash/Contingency payouts are based on 100 entries per class. The pay structure will decrease with less entries. The pay structures are based off increments of 25 rider groups" 

Moto Money $hootout

Online Reg Closes:  2/28/2024, 7:00:00 AM

SIGN-UP

Sign-ups will open Jan. 1st 2024. At the time of the sign up there is a 1/3 of the race entry fee due as a Deposit. If the racer backs out 50% of their deposit will be returned. If the race is canceled for any reason the racers Deposit will be RETURNED

Pay-outs

The Moto Money Shoot out pays out all classes as Pro and Amateur. The Pro/ A riders will receive cash pay outs the day of the race. Amateurs will receive a Visa Contingency card through Bento for Business or an online account can be set up through Bento for E Pay. The Amatuer Pay outs may take a few days to fund the contingency account. Each rider must fill out a 1099 before receiving pay outs.

Pay-out Structure

The advertised Cash/Contingency payouts are based on 100 entries per class. The pay structure will decrease with less entries. The pay structures are based off increments of 25 rider groups.

Event Schedule

Tuesday:  Practice
Wednesday:  Site Lap before racing begins

Race Format

Each Class will run up to 3 heat races.
Top 10 from each Heat race advance to Main. Top 5 out of each LCQ advance to Main.

The Mains

450 is 20 minutes + 2 Laps

250 is 15 minutes + 2 Laps

50,65,85 and 2- Stroke Open is 10 Mins +1 lap

Refunds

A racer can request a refund within 8 days or more before the race. The racer will receive 50% of their deposit back. There will be no refunds within the 7 days of the race. If the race is canceled for any reason on the promoter’s side the racers will receive the full deposit back. 

Scoring 

Races are scored in Supercross format.  Main is overall.  

Transponders are required.  Transponders are available to rent onsite or by pre-rental.   

RENTAL - $25    (unless otherwise noted)

All Credit/Debit cards are accepted and must be completed online or at Kiosk.  Cash rentals require a $100 cash deposit in addition to the rental fee.  The deposit will be returned when the transponder is returned at the end of the event.  Forfeiture of the deposit does not in any way constitute transfer of ownership.  The transponder remains property of LiveView Timing.

 

Refund Policy:   A racer can request a refund within 8 days or more before the race. The racer will receive 50% of their deposit back. There will be no refunds within the 7 days of the race.

 

kijen wrote:
Think vital is the epicenter of moto? Think people got time to check a message board daily. Im not involved, but seems like a guy or...

Think vital is the epicenter of moto? Think people got time to check a message board daily. Im not involved, but seems like a guy or group are trying to do something cool, guess its just easy to bag on folks, rather then support or encourage.

This stuff has been going on since the 70s BIG money purses are promised but rarely ever happen and the creative math some promoters use to figure the pay out is suspect.  The old saying is true. If it sounds to good to be true than it probably is.  I guess we will see, but if anyone thinks they will have $400,000 in payouts then I have some ocean front property for sale in Oklahoma I will sell them for cheap. Wink  Maybe they should cap the entries at 200 per class and then they can claim a $800,000 payout instead.Blush

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romain524
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2/27/2024 12:12am

Is this race happening this week?

2/28/2024 8:41am

I have not heard anything about anyone going to the race if its still even happening. 

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DC817
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2/28/2024 11:12am

14 entries in 450 class and 2 entries in 250 class according to live timing… 

2/28/2024 11:19am
lostboy819 wrote:

I have not heard anything about anyone going to the race if its still even happening. 

Daytona RCSX this weekend, Freestone JS7 National next week, Oak Hill Spring a Ding after that, and Loretta’s area qualifiers going on all over. Bad time to try to promote a new race.

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2/28/2024 11:25am
lostboy819 wrote:

I have not heard anything about anyone going to the race if its still even happening. 

Lowbidder wrote:
Daytona RCSX this weekend, Freestone JS7 National next week, Oak Hill Spring a Ding after that, and Loretta’s area qualifiers going on all over. Bad time...

Daytona RCSX this weekend, Freestone JS7 National next week, Oak Hill Spring a Ding after that, and Loretta’s area qualifiers going on all over. Bad time to try to promote a new race.

I would think the best time to promote a race is when everyone is in town. The only problem is if guys do not want to bet onm themselves and would rather cry about the plight of the poor privateer. 

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2/28/2024 11:56am Edited Date/Time 2/28/2024 11:57am

Moto riders may not all be highly educated but they aren’t dumb. Hence why 2 guys signed up for 250 and 14 in 450. Between the 2 they expected 200 entries lol

I’m going to host a $30m purse race this year. $1500 an entry and I’m capping entries at 20,000 per class 😂😂😂

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2/28/2024 3:48pm
DC817 wrote:

14 entries in 450 class and 2 entries in 250 class according to live timing… 

Post the link, I want to see who is there..

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2/28/2024 4:09pm
MX Culture wrote:

Post the link, I want to see who is there..

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2/28/2024 5:02pm

Wow no one showed up

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2/28/2024 8:01pm Edited Date/Time 2/28/2024 8:02pm
bc775 wrote:

Wow no one showed up

100 entries was a bit of a lofty goal IMO, especially at $1500.  The payout was approximately top 30%, so the 5th (?) place rider will feel that loss.

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2/29/2024 5:24am

Hold up . The BOB was there ? That’s a bad man. Wonder how much loot he received ? 

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2/29/2024 5:28am

Is this the guy that can’t race Nationals or GP”s due to being Russian? 

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sandman768 wrote:

Is this the guy that can’t race Nationals or GP”s due to being Russian? 

Yes.

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2/29/2024 8:07am Edited Date/Time 2/29/2024 8:10am
Rupert X wrote:

Hold up . The BOB was there ? That’s a bad man. Wonder how much loot he received ? 

I hear he was moving fast, crashed in his race and still won. His payout was $8500, so after his entry fee he made $7000. Not a bad days work if you ask me. 

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2/29/2024 8:52am

Russian Bob! 

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2/29/2024 10:37am

Here is the payout they have posted, not a bad day's work for the guys who were good enough and had the balls to bet on themselves. 

 

Moto Money

2/29/2024 11:13am

My math may suck but that doesn't add up to anywhere close to $400,000 in pay outs. Wink

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2/29/2024 12:35pm
lostboy819 wrote:
My math may suck but that doesn't add up to anywhere close to $400,000 in pay outs. 

My math may suck but that doesn't add up to anywhere close to $400,000 in pay outs. Wink

Thank you, Negative Nancy. The payout was based on full fields. No one can force a guy to grow some balls and bet on themselves. 

Please tell me the reason to complain about it. A track owner put it out there to try to help some privateers. I don't see any reason to do anything but compliment him and hope the race grows. 

2/29/2024 4:08pm Edited Date/Time 2/29/2024 4:10pm

NO shit Mr wizard, I can bet they knew they wouldn't even come close to filling the classes with the big entry fees. Next year they can advertise it as 1 million dollar pay out Laughing This shit is nothing new promotors have been doing this crap for years and car races have been doing it even longer. 

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lostboy819 wrote:
NO shit Mr wizard, I can bet they knew they wouldn't even come close to filling the classes with the big entry fees. Next year they...

NO shit Mr wizard, I can bet they knew they wouldn't even come close to filling the classes with the big entry fees. Next year they can advertise it as 1 million dollar pay out Laughing This shit is nothing new promotors have been doing this crap for years and car races have been doing it even longer. 

Typical piss and moan bs while offering nothing.

Were they at all dishonest? Did they do what they said they would do? 

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