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Sipes is badass for sure, would like to know what he thinks about 2T.
Maybe Matthes can touch on this and call up Sipes, Kenny, and Mitch and aks them.
Equal displacement racing......the time has come!
I’m all for it but I can see a scenario where the manufacturers will complain.
Let’s say they let 250Ts race with 250Fs.
Image that a particular Yamaha Star Racing rider realizes what a great advantage racing the 2-stroke against the 250Fs. He starts dominating.
Then the other Star Racing riders start riding 2Ts to even the odds a bit. Of course everyone on the Austrian bikes will do the same.
Can you image the complaints from the camps that don’t have 2 strokes?
It would force those other manufacturers to begin making 2 strokes again.
I can dream can’t I?
Seriously, If there was a rules change for equal displacement, the other manufacturers would require a few years for the rule to kick in so that they would have time to catch up.
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In series with equal displacement rules, which is basically all of them except AMA pro, 250Fs still dominate as they are a superior racing machine that are easier to go fast on. I doubt this would change
Honda, Kawasaki, and Suzuki no longer make 2 strokes for competition so it's their loss. Step up or step aside.
Well not all manufacturers had a 250f at the beginning.. I still remember a kx125 smoking everyone...
Bring back 250 smokers and Bills pipes!!
Be interesting to see if there would be an advantage on a full factory 250 2 stroke.
250 series should be equal displacement, production based, get rid of the East/West bullshit once and for all, homologation rules persist as a percentage of total production not an absolute number so as not to punish small makers, no bullshit time/age limits to race the class, 15-minute main events. 450 make it run what you brung, prototype allowed type class, no homologation, but displacement, induction, electronics, tire size and weight limits, top three in points automatic seed in the main, 20-minute main events. Make the 125 class the East/West, production based strictly, limit years allowed to compete (perhaps 3?), only 6 races per coast count for the championship - riders can drop their shitty races, riders can race both coasts but only get points for one coast, claiming rules apply to this class, 25 riders in main event, 15-minute mains. Riders can race multiple classes if qualified. Part of the requirements for manufacturer participation should be a required minimum contingency payout per class the maker wants to participate in more than dumbass homologation numbers.
Let me first say that there's a zero percent chance any of this happens, but even if it did, the only thing that would make it interesting is if the AMA lowered the weight limits by 15 or 20 pounds.
If they did that, then the dudes doing the racing would actually have a real choice to make.
But like I said: zero chance. The AMA is to our sport what blinders are to a horse.
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There is about 20 factory riders in the 450 class now, just make it the F1 of motocross/supercross, if the factories want to make a prototype let them, if they think they can compete with production based fine too. Privateers can try to qualify if they wish. It is kind of that way now anyway, no way the Lawrence boys bikes are remotely starting from stock.
Stock frame, cases, etc. pretty sure they are starting from stock, just like any privateer bike
Absolutely they should be.
Doubt it, those bikes probably are not off the assembly line like yours or mine.
When the production rule came in 1986, Honda still made works frames, with different sized tubes, different braces, and nominally the same geometry as stock (has the AMA ever check frame geometry?), Dave Arnold explains it from 20:50...
Do you think anything has changed?
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