Supercross the game 7?

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js256 wrote:

monkey press left, bike go left, clap clap clap clap

really over all these fucking reflex comments

Most people enjoy relfex best....

I've got the newest offering,  I like it, but not as much.

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I've always liked the MES series games. They take a lot of practice to be good at but once you get it, the game is super fun. 

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Milestone games have had little to no evolution since Supercross 2.  IMO, same game, different number in the title.  Also, they weren't being scanned during media...

Milestone games have had little to no evolution since Supercross 2. 

IMO, same game, different number in the title. 

Also, they weren't being scanned during media day. They were being photographed and filmed for all the 2024 season promos they use during the broadcast. 

LOL the recent games are so so different to say MES 1 and 2. They have progressed A LOT. 

I Think youre wrong, in the vlog I posted he clearly says working on the newest video game from 'their friends at milestone"

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js256 wrote:
yes fresh gear and rider team updates is an easy fix that needs addressing . For everyone that harps on about reflex being better than a...

yes fresh gear and rider team updates is an easy fix that needs addressing . For everyone that harps on about reflex being better than a current milestone game that is complete bullshit. Games like reflex are much simpler in terms of controller input which makes them "feel" better to simpletons who just want to pick up the controller and go. For players who spend more than 5 mins playing these modern milestone games are leaps and bounds above anything that has come before it. You just have to not be an ape and play it for a bit longer 

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Milestone games have had little to no evolution since Supercross 2.  IMO, same game, different number in the title.  Also, they weren't being scanned during media...

Milestone games have had little to no evolution since Supercross 2. 

IMO, same game, different number in the title. 

Also, they weren't being scanned during media day. They were being photographed and filmed for all the 2024 season promos they use during the broadcast. 

In the Christian Craig media day vlog, someone from Milestone is taking pictures for the new game.

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12/16/2023 11:26am Edited Date/Time 12/16/2023 11:29am
js256 wrote:
yes fresh gear and rider team updates is an easy fix that needs addressing . For everyone that harps on about reflex being better than a...

yes fresh gear and rider team updates is an easy fix that needs addressing . For everyone that harps on about reflex being better than a current milestone game that is complete bullshit. Games like reflex are much simpler in terms of controller input which makes them "feel" better to simpletons who just want to pick up the controller and go. For players who spend more than 5 mins playing these modern milestone games are leaps and bounds above anything that has come before it. You just have to not be an ape and play it for a bit longer 

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Milestone games have had little to no evolution since Supercross 2.  IMO, same game, different number in the title.  Also, they weren't being scanned during media...

Milestone games have had little to no evolution since Supercross 2. 

IMO, same game, different number in the title. 

Also, they weren't being scanned during media day. They were being photographed and filmed for all the 2024 season promos they use during the broadcast. 

At 3:42 the guy clearly talks about Milestone and their upcoming new Supercross videogame, they did the tv stuff before that

https://youtu.be/wFW2UEqLvSU?si=jjOhqN-C50pyTjAv&t=222

 

 

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12/16/2023 12:55pm
Marcello10 wrote:
At 3:42 the guy clearly talks about Milestone and their upcoming new Supercross videogame, they did the tv stuff before that https://youtu.be/wFW2UEqLvSU?si=jjOhqN-C50pyTjAv&t=222    

At 3:42 the guy clearly talks about Milestone and their upcoming new Supercross videogame, they did the tv stuff before that

https://youtu.be/wFW2UEqLvSU?si=jjOhqN-C50pyTjAv&t=222

 

 

I'll take your word as I don't click on anything Craig related. 

I was under the impression Milestone were no longer doing any SX/MX video games because they lost the license. 

As it turns out, they did lose the license, but only for the MXGP series. The license was granted to Nacon. They have the rights for the next 5 years (2024-2028). The new MXGP games will be developed by Kylotonn. They're a company out of France, and the they're the studio behind the World Rally Championship game series (2015-2022), so it should be in good hands. 

IMO, Milestone is still putting out the same subpar content they've been putting out for years. Nice graphics, and that's about it. 

Personally, I think the only company that could do the sport justice is Codemasters. They're now the one's developing the WRC series. They're the studio behind the Dirt, F1, and Grid series. 

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The Milestone dirt bike games are some of the worst pieces of crap I've ever played.

In the MES series, the whips are literally the opposite of real life.  If you lean to the left it will whip you to the left.  I dont know how anyone who rides a dirt bike could enjoy something thats literally the direct opposite of how it works in real life.

The Mx vs Atv series isn't perfect but at least in All Out, the physics actually correlate with reality and they even have the bike react to the gyro effects of turning your front wheel or banging off the rev limited.

I genuinely believe nobody at Milestone has ever ridden a motorcycle.

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The Milestone dirt bike games are some of the worst pieces of crap I've ever played. In the MES series, the whips are literally the opposite...

The Milestone dirt bike games are some of the worst pieces of crap I've ever played.

In the MES series, the whips are literally the opposite of real life.  If you lean to the left it will whip you to the left.  I dont know how anyone who rides a dirt bike could enjoy something thats literally the direct opposite of how it works in real life.

The Mx vs Atv series isn't perfect but at least in All Out, the physics actually correlate with reality and they even have the bike react to the gyro effects of turning your front wheel or banging off the rev limited.

I genuinely believe nobody at Milestone has ever ridden a motorcycle.

I’ll take the questionable physics over a company that swore real life tracks are too boring to put into the game, only to release actual tracks as DLC when their competitor proved people would prefer actual tracks over racing in snow and volcanoes 

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The Milestone dirt bike games are some of the worst pieces of crap I've ever played. In the MES series, the whips are literally the opposite...

The Milestone dirt bike games are some of the worst pieces of crap I've ever played.

In the MES series, the whips are literally the opposite of real life.  If you lean to the left it will whip you to the left.  I dont know how anyone who rides a dirt bike could enjoy something thats literally the direct opposite of how it works in real life.

The Mx vs Atv series isn't perfect but at least in All Out, the physics actually correlate with reality and they even have the bike react to the gyro effects of turning your front wheel or banging off the rev limited.

I genuinely believe nobody at Milestone has ever ridden a motorcycle.

I’ll take the questionable physics over a company that swore real life tracks are too boring to put into the game, only to release actual tracks...

I’ll take the questionable physics over a company that swore real life tracks are too boring to put into the game, only to release actual tracks as DLC when their competitor proved people would prefer actual tracks over racing in snow and volcanoes 

Yet it’s somehow better to charge $60 for the same game 6 years in a row for something that plays like it was made for PS1 Laughing

MX vs ATV actually puts in effort in developing their game over its full life cycle but you’re butthurt about something they got wrong and remedied 5 years ago. The amount of content they’ve put out in the the last two years alone is insane 

Milestone’s efforts are so bad that even Luongo dropped their license. That should tell you something 

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The Milestone dirt bike games are some of the worst pieces of crap I've ever played. In the MES series, the whips are literally the opposite...

The Milestone dirt bike games are some of the worst pieces of crap I've ever played.

In the MES series, the whips are literally the opposite of real life.  If you lean to the left it will whip you to the left.  I dont know how anyone who rides a dirt bike could enjoy something thats literally the direct opposite of how it works in real life.

The Mx vs Atv series isn't perfect but at least in All Out, the physics actually correlate with reality and they even have the bike react to the gyro effects of turning your front wheel or banging off the rev limited.

I genuinely believe nobody at Milestone has ever ridden a motorcycle.

I’ll take the questionable physics over a company that swore real life tracks are too boring to put into the game, only to release actual tracks...

I’ll take the questionable physics over a company that swore real life tracks are too boring to put into the game, only to release actual tracks as DLC when their competitor proved people would prefer actual tracks over racing in snow and volcanoes 

zehn wrote:
Yet it’s somehow better to charge $60 for the same game 6 years in a row for something that plays like it was made for PS1 ...

Yet it’s somehow better to charge $60 for the same game 6 years in a row for something that plays like it was made for PS1 Laughing

MX vs ATV actually puts in effort in developing their game over its full life cycle but you’re butthurt about something they got wrong and remedied 5 years ago. The amount of content they’ve put out in the the last two years alone is insane 

Milestone’s efforts are so bad that even Luongo dropped their license. That should tell you something 

Ehh, at least the tracks and riders are updated to some degree, you know what you’re getting with a milestone game

 

dont believe mxatv has remedied it yet, since to ride a real brand on a real track costs more

 

and would hardly agree to say they’ve improved in any area. Still 600 ft jumps on comical maps while never letting off the throttle

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I’ll take the questionable physics over a company that swore real life tracks are too boring to put into the game, only to release actual tracks...

I’ll take the questionable physics over a company that swore real life tracks are too boring to put into the game, only to release actual tracks as DLC when their competitor proved people would prefer actual tracks over racing in snow and volcanoes 

I've never raced in any snow or volcanoes in All Out.  I did race the stadium supercross tracks that came with the game and they look fine enough for me.  And I paid I think $20 for the full AMA motocross series.  But if people are salty about that then thats a valid criticism I guess.

But regarding Milestone... how can you play a game where the physics are reversed from real life?

You're going up a jump face and you lean right to scrub into a right hand turn and then the bike scrubs out to the right and puts you completely opposite to where you're trying to go.  How can people play a game where it literally is completely opposite of what really happens when you ride a track?

 

Also, I only play in first person and the Milestone games look like someone mounted a Go Pro on the seat and the camera doesn't shift as you turn.  There is no way that anyone who's ever ridden motorcycle could think this is what riding a motorcycle looks like.

Milestone games belong on mobile devices for children and spodes to play.

 

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I love how hot people get over the “bring reflex back” comments. Like it’s their fault for wanting the game remastered. I don’t buy that some dipshit intern at Rainbow “lost” the code to the only decent game they made

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funny a lot of ppl trash the milestone game and when I ask which ones they own they own 1 or 2 . haven't got a clue what they're talking about but happily chime in anyway. bizarre

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js256 wrote:
yes fresh gear and rider team updates is an easy fix that needs addressing . For everyone that harps on about reflex being better than a...

yes fresh gear and rider team updates is an easy fix that needs addressing . For everyone that harps on about reflex being better than a current milestone game that is complete bullshit. Games like reflex are much simpler in terms of controller input which makes them "feel" better to simpletons who just want to pick up the controller and go. For players who spend more than 5 mins playing these modern milestone games are leaps and bounds above anything that has come before it. You just have to not be an ape and play it for a bit longer 

Calling people asking for different physics "simpletons" yet your suggestion for fixing the game is fresh gear and team updates. Im fuckin dead 💀💀💀

 

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Calling people asking for different physics "simpletons" yet your suggestion for fixing the game is fresh gear and team updates. Im fuckin dead 💀💀💀

 

clearly wasn't my suggestion just agreed with it, im a consumer not a developer mate. just calling out ppl for trashing a company's hard work when they clearly have played it very little if at all

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keep smokin

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12/17/2023 9:25am Edited Date/Time 12/17/2023 9:27am

Calling people asking for different physics "simpletons" yet your suggestion for fixing the game is fresh gear and team updates. Im fuckin dead 💀💀💀

 

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clearly wasn't my suggestion just agreed with it, im a consumer not a developer mate. just calling out ppl for trashing a company's hard work when...

clearly wasn't my suggestion just agreed with it, im a consumer not a developer mate. just calling out ppl for trashing a company's hard work when they clearly have played it very little if at all

I've played mes1, mes3, mxgp pro, and mxgp 2019.  They are all garbage and Milestone has no idea how a motorcycle works.

A motorcycle doesn't "steer" but that's exactly how their controls operate.  They think its a two-wheeled car.  If you push left, the handlebars steers to the left.  This is why the bike feels uncontrollable to people.  You end up steering back and forth trying to go straight.  I would bet 99% of the people who have issues with Milestone can relate to this.

In Mx vs Atv, the left stick pushes the handle bars in the direction you push just like how you actually ride a bike.  Its not "easy" to turn in Mx vs Atv, it just reflects actual bike physics.

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js256 wrote:
funny a lot of ppl trash the milestone game and when I ask which ones they own they own 1 or 2 . haven't got a...

funny a lot of ppl trash the milestone game and when I ask which ones they own they own 1 or 2 . haven't got a clue what they're talking about but happily chime in anyway. bizarre

I don't remember if it was MES 1 or 2, but one of the first SX games had the cornering dialed. It felt and looked pretty realistic.

I had hoped that they would keep those turning physics and work on every other aspect of the game. But alas, they threw the baby out with the bath water.

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js256 wrote:
funny a lot of ppl trash the milestone game and when I ask which ones they own they own 1 or 2 . haven't got a...

funny a lot of ppl trash the milestone game and when I ask which ones they own they own 1 or 2 . haven't got a clue what they're talking about but happily chime in anyway. bizarre

I have 1 and 2 and bought 5 and it found unplayable. The bike physics became real weird, somehow heavy and floaty and slow.  
 

2 is fantastic

12/17/2023 1:21pm Edited Date/Time 12/17/2023 1:21pm

I have 'em all, including the much- ballyhooed MX Bikes and TrackDayR. They're all crap. Think about this- they're trying to put all the feel we get from bikes, and all the inputs we give them, into a shitty plastic controller. So play what you think is fun and don't let anyone tell you different. 

 

Frankly, at my age, the only thing more embarrassing than admitting I still play video games is arguing on the internet with other old men about said video games. (yet here I am...)

OLD MAN YELLS AT CLOUD

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Zacka 161 wrote:
I have 1 and 2 and bought 5 and it found unplayable. The bike physics became real weird, somehow heavy and floaty and slow.    ...

I have 1 and 2 and bought 5 and it found unplayable. The bike physics became real weird, somehow heavy and floaty and slow.  
 

2 is fantastic

that's how they feel at first, it takes a few weeks to get used to the physics, you can't just pick it up and go. similar to any of the modern rally games it takes you awhile to get it dialled.

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12/17/2023 9:26pm Edited Date/Time 12/17/2023 9:26pm

From what I've read most of you might be suited to playing in arcade mode. you would get the feel your looking for

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Zacka 161 wrote:
I have 1 and 2 and bought 5 and it found unplayable. The bike physics became real weird, somehow heavy and floaty and slow.    ...

I have 1 and 2 and bought 5 and it found unplayable. The bike physics became real weird, somehow heavy and floaty and slow.  
 

2 is fantastic

js256 wrote:
that's how they feel at first, it takes a few weeks to get used to the physics, you can't just pick it up and go. similar...

that's how they feel at first, it takes a few weeks to get used to the physics, you can't just pick it up and go. similar to any of the modern rally games it takes you awhile to get it dialled.

It did take me a bit to get used to 2 so that makes sense.

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js256 wrote:

From what I've read most of you might be suited to playing in arcade mode. you would get the feel your looking for

Does Milestone have a mode where you can make the physics actually mirror what happens in real life on a dirt bike?

Or is it just the mode where leaning left up a jump face kicks the bike out to the left and where opening the throttle in the air does nothing to the front end?

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one stick steers the bars, one stick leans rider weight. to scrub you point both sticks together which yes isn't the best, maybe an area where they could try something different

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12/23/2023 9:21am Edited Date/Time 12/23/2023 9:23am

Things to fix:

1. More consequences for casing jumps!

2.Scrub/whip physics

3. Ruts more like the mxgp games

4. up to date rider teams and gear. Do updates if necessary!

5. The ability for a host to boot players who are blocking /cutting the track.

6. Make whoops harder. It should be If you don't get a good drive you come unstuck

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Milestone games were great compared to the alternative of nothing every year.

Looks like a lot of you are getting your wish.

LOL at every “not even close to realistic” comment. At least now you can go back to complaining how no one pays attention to your sport and wish someone would make an authentic simulator that smells like premix.

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I wish the motocross games were more like fifa, except with everything put into career, for all I care the actual riding and graphics can stay the same but if they had a good career where riders can move teams or maybe a team manager mode I’d be a lot happier paying. I wouldn’t mind waiting or paying £70 maybe more for something like that but the same games where the same things happen is boring, and the game is too easy

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i just cancelled my pre order. 

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